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Final NA team going to World

Yfrappefort··2 votes·1,645 views

Now that TSM and Immortals are locked into World, who will be the 3rd seed?

C9, CLG, Dig or FQ?

All of them seems quite unstable so it seems difficult to predict, but based on playoffs so far I think Dig will take it.

Thoughts?

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BigBellBrute5 votes

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Now that TSM and Immortals are locked into World, who will be the 3rd seed?

C9, CLG, Dig or FQ?

All of them seems quite unstable so it seems difficult to predict, but based on playoffs so far I think Dig will take it.

Thoughts?

Well by positioning, C9 only has to win one series. So they have the inside track. CLG has just not looked good lately. They and Dig still have the third place match. We'll see how that goes. C9 for its part has beaten the bad teams and lost for the most part to the really good teams. Could be an interesting final series between them and Dig. Flyquest is a wild card as they haven't played in a long time. But they haven't shown heretofore to have the firepower to get through three other teams. That said, any given day anything can happen. I'd have to favor C9 with Dig having a shot. CLG has to get back to form. Immortals really made them look bad.

jwebb01132 votes

dont matter no NA team is going to win worlds

BigBellBrute4 votes

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dont matter no NA team is going to win worlds

So close this thread and ignore it from now on and never post in it again because it doesn't matter.

jwebb01131 votes

i didnt open the thread just commented on it

BigBellBrute3 votes

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i didnt open the thread just commented on it

Yeah three times.... Because it doesn't matter.

jwebb01131 votes

i originally only made the one comment then people kept commenting to me instead of the thread so i replied

BigBellBrute4 votes

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i originally only made the one comment then people kept commenting to me instead of the thread so i replied

4 now. Because of course..... It doesn't matter.

jwebb01131 votes

lol wow u keep on commenting are you sad that it dont matter who from NA makes it to worlds cuz they wont win ?

jwebb01131 votes

yea thats bout what every one is doing here cuz i said it dont matter what na team makes it to worlds

BigBellBrute2 votes

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yea thats bout what every one is doing here cuz i said it dont matter what na team makes it to worlds

That's six. Do you know what that means? Sally Field knows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWtUVDG5M1w

BigBellBrute2 votes

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lol wow u keep on commenting are you sad that it dont matter who from NA makes it to worlds cuz they wont win ?

That's five. Because it doesn't matter to you.

jwebb01131 votes

so u think there is nothing better to do with your time then to harass me on the boards over my opinion ?

BigBellBrute1 votes

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so u think there is nothing better to do with your time then to harass me on the boards over my opinion ?

You sure seem to be getting a bee in your bonnet over something that "doesn't matter." Guess what I do if the subject matter of a thread doesn't matter. I don't bother with it. And I certainly don't come back to it 7 times after I troll and get my knickers in a knot when someone asks why I posted if it doesn't matter.

dakm1022 votes

dude just calm the heck down and leave the guy alone. is he posting something that doesn't make sense in this context? yes. but why harass him endlessly. I get that he made a dumb post and I'm there with you but there is no point in harassing him for it. just state you don't like his opinion and be done. and if he messages back after that it is on HIM. not you endlessly berating him ok? so chill the heck out and stop attacking people for their beliefs. it is ok to say you don't agree, but don't keep it going just to keep it going and harass him on how it is still going

BigBellBrute1 votes

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dude just calm the heck down and leave the guy alone. is he posting something that doesn't make sense in this context? yes. but why harass him endlessly. I get that he made a dumb post and I'm there with you but there is no point in harassing him for it. just state you don't like his opinion and be done. and if he messages back after that it is on HIM. not you endlessly berating him ok? so chill the heck out and stop attacking people for their beliefs. it is ok to say you don't agree, but don't keep it going just to keep it going and harass him on how it is still going

I'm not harassing anyone or attacking anyone. You on the other hand are defending a troll. I will post what I want, when I want. And I'm well within the rules so therefore you have absolutely no say in the matter.

jwebb01131 votes

how am i troll for commenting my opinion ?

BigBellBrute1 votes

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how am i troll for commenting my opinion ?

First of all, that you've commented in the thread 10 times means you lied when you said it didn't matter because if it truly didn't, you'd have been out of here or never even commented in the first place.
Secondly your comments about the chance of winning worlds were not germane to the subject of this thread in the least.
Thirdly, you and I both know your only intent was to throw a wet blanket on this thread. despite your protests to the contrary.

You're clearly trolling. We know it. And you know it. As such, you no longer matter and I will choose not to feed you from this point on.

jwebb01131 votes

it was talking about the worlds finals and who would be the 3rd team from na... my point the 3rd team nor any team from na dont matter cuz they arent gonna win... so you could put a challenger team from NA and it wouldnt matter

yet you are the only who seems to be bothered and upset over my comment. i made one simple comment and you dragged it into this to try to make your stand and show how big n bad you are to a "troll' that you labeled me based on nothing but your dislike of my comment.

you were the one to take it to extreme not me... you seriously need to look at yourself in the mirror and figured out why did you waste your time bringing my comment to this ... that was on you...

so if im a troll then arent you the fukin pot calling the kettle black

now kindly gfys

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

GeminiRune6 votes

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dont matter no NA team is going to win worlds

Wait it's the end of October already? OP was asking who makes it thru not who wins. Defeatist much?

jwebb01132 votes

so would it matter if i waited til october to say it or now ?

do you really think an NA team is gonna win vs a korean team ?

GeminiRune2 votes

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so would it matter if i waited til october to say it or now ?

do you really think an NA team is gonna win vs a korean team ?

Was that the point of anything? I don't care about if NA beats a KR team. That topic is beaten deader than a zombie horse and I'm sick of it as is. I rather enjoy healthy discussion instead of be a fickle minded individual that likes to bandwagon the chance that comes. If I were to think the way you have I'd more than already have given up on enjoying the competition.

What next? You're the kind of person that believes Koreans are good at every single competitive video game because that's not true either. Clearly you care about winners yet you don't know anything about em let alone the joy of competition that eSports is. You should take a hint and if you don't like the conversation just move along.

jwebb01131 votes

nope just that the korean top teams in league are better then the NA teams

history shows that and as far as i remember

GeminiRune1 votes

I don't care about the history. Especially not in this discussion. I'm sorry that you do.

jwebb01131 votes

lol ok... well be sure to rub it in my face if an NA team wins worlds

GeminiRune1 votes

Don't need to. Don't want to. Don't care. Move along.

warpenguin5552 votes

Let us have fun for 5 minutes

jwebb01131 votes

ahh insults and name calling

typical

BigBellBrute3 votes

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ahh insults and name calling

typical

Seven. Because you totally don't care.

Galacius2 votes

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Let us have fun for 5 minutes

Went ahead and edited out the "asshole." Lets not start a flame war.

jwebb01131 votes

yet he did start the insults and name calling and others on here are flat out harassing for ones opinion but you dont do anything over that

jwebb01131 votes

?????

Galacius1 votes

You said I wasn't doing anything, but that comment I linked shows the opposite.

jwebb01131 votes

i beg to differ. but you dont see what im talking about...

Nipsahoy2 votes

I think Cloud 9 will win it to be honest. They've won the last two times they've been in the gauntlet and I think they can beat Dignitas. I don't think Flyquest really has a shot and CLG has looked too shaky as of late with the late season roster change.

If we see the shaky/weak looking C9 we saw in quarterfinals then I think Dignitas has a shot but if we see the C9 we saw that won the last 6 matches they played to end the season then I think Dig is toast.

III BAKURYU III 2 votes

I honestly just can't see FQ winning the gauntlet, they would have to win like 2 or so series and while FQ does have Hai, the team is just average at best, pretty much the same as CLG, all offense with 0 defensive strategies. ( FlyQuest eliminated)

Even with decent kill leads, CLG still can't do much late game and it's sad since every CLG member really stepped up from their Spring performances. It's sad because CLG will most likely miss Worlds and last year, they were awesome from Spring - MSI - Worlds they were fun to watch and overall had a very satisfying International performances, but I don't see them advancing. ( Counter Logic Gaming eliminated)

Too many flaws and overall just unproven even after their recent series, next time to be eliminated is non other than Dignitas. Keane is still meh, Altec is still meh at team-fighting and for the most part DIG are just above average when thinking about NA's top tier teams. ( Dignitas eliminated)

C9 has the better mid among the final NA gauntlet teams, C9 has the better bot lane duo compared to the rest of the teams' and overall, C9 only has to win like 1 or so series, in which they will most likely will win anyways. ( Cloud 9 advances )

BigBellBrute2 votes

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I honestly just can't see FQ winning the gauntlet, they would have to win like 2 or so series and while FQ does have Hai, the team is just average at best, pretty much the same as CLG, all offense with 0 defensive strategies. ( FlyQuest eliminated)

Even with decent kill leads, CLG still can't do much late game and it's sad since every CLG member really stepped up from their Spring performances. It's sad because CLG will most likely miss Worlds and last year, they were awesome from Spring - MSI - Worlds they were fun to watch and overall had a very satisfying International performances, but I don't see them advancing. ( Counter Logic Gaming eliminated)

Too many flaws and overall just unproven even after their recent series, next time to be eliminated is non other than Dignitas. Keane is still meh, Altec is still meh at team-fighting and for the most part DIG are just above average when thinking about NA's top tier teams. ( Dignitas eliminated)

C9 has the better mid among the final NA gauntlet teams, C9 has the better bot lane duo compared to the rest of the teams' and overall, C9 only has to win like 1 or so series, in which they will most likely will win anyways. ( Cloud 9 advances )

CLG was frustrating last year. From the high of beating G2 twice to knowing they'd have advanced if they just beat the wild card once. Very frustrating.

III BAKURYU III 1 votes

Frustrating indeed, but overall much better than what most people thought going into Spring Split with CLG removing D-Lift and Pobelter, as well as MSI being every caster had them like 5th but instead finished 2nd place. With also World, Yes, they failed horribly against the IWC(Albus) but from their Summer Split, they shocked and for the most part looked up 2 par with teams such as Albus, a team that even beat Rox Tigers in the group stage also.

BigBellBrute1 votes

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Frustrating indeed, but overall much better than what most people thought going into Spring Split with CLG removing D-Lift and Pobelter, as well as MSI being every caster had them like 5th but instead finished 2nd place. With also World, Yes, they failed horribly against the IWC(Albus) but from their Summer Split, they shocked and for the most part looked up 2 par with teams such as Albus, a team that even beat Rox Tigers in the group stage also.

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III BAKURYU III 1 votes

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Yfrappefort1 votes

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CLG was frustrating last year. From the high of beating G2 twice to knowing they'd have advanced if they just beat the wild card once. Very frustrating.

Yeah that was sad. Tbh, C9 is just as frustrating this year. I'm a big fan and a part of me want them to win gauntlet and go to World, but another want them to lose because I don't want a team so...unpredictable to go there and quickly get thrown out. The conflict is real.

BigBellBrute1 votes

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Yeah that was sad. Tbh, C9 is just as frustrating this year. I'm a big fan and a part of me want them to win gauntlet and go to World, but another want them to lose because I don't want a team so...unpredictable to go there and quickly get thrown out. The conflict is real.

if you look at their losses, they were all against the top teams and they consistently beat the teams not on the top. And the good news is 4 of their 6 regular season losses are from teams not in the gauntlet. 2 to imt, 1 each to NV and TSM. Yes they are 0-2 against CLG and that is troubling. But that occurred in weeks 1 and 5. And CLG isn't now what they were then. They had to dump their jungler due to behavior and put in one with little experience. Now the playoff loss to Dig is what is troublesome. It was all their for them. A win gives them at minimum the points spot. And not only didn't they come through, it was 3-1. That is the one that just cannot be dismissed. Further, the team quality at worlds will be better than the group of teams they went 1-5 against. So if they make it, they will have to step it up. They won't get far if they don't. But we know that they can. C-9 has done this before though. Dump summer split, make it through gauntlet, have no expectations on them at worlds and be the only NA team out of the group stage. They have the capability. I'm not saying they will, just that we know they can. The one thing I'm wondering is this. Is the extra reliance on Jensen a strategy that didn't work out or was it necessitated because others play fell off. Anyway the draw at worlds can go in one's favor, or send one to one's grave. Yeah if C-9 comes through as a 3 and they get SKT and #1 China in their draw uh say good night. If on the other they get G2, #2 Taiwan, and no Korean team... Well uh hmmmm. Fortunately the most wild team in the tourney, the Gigabyte Marines is in. they are not in the play in.

Galacius2 votes

Can we stop the bickering and get back to the topic at hand please? This goes for everybody in here. I'm not afraid to punish people who break the Universal Rules either.

Yfrappefort1 votes

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Can we stop the bickering and get back to the topic at hand please? This goes for everybody in here. I'm not afraid to punish people who break the Universal Rules either.

Thank you. I do prefer reading a real discussion about the post I made. [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

GeminiRune1 votes

Everyone has something good going for them this time around barring Flyquest. I cannot put my confidence behind them because of that alone; they were just too shaky and I doubt Thinkcard could mentor a winning formula not once but three times!

As for the rest, they've beaten each other left, right and center all split but some came out on top over others. It really feels like whomever doesn't show up from here on is just undeserving. But to answer your question, I'm gonna bank on DIG pulling the miracle. C9 however does have the advantage given not only their points but the amount of additional time they have to analyze and prepare for the remaining teams.

warpenguin5551 votes

I want C9 to go but they probably won't. I can't see them beating DIG right now. Unless DIG were to fall to Flyquest or CLG...

Yfrappefort1 votes

Well, that escalated quickly...

dakm1021 votes

Hai in the gauntlet................................. is there anything else I need to say. I guess another small thing is that in the last week they looked like they finally knew how to play a bit on the defensive and with shielding supports being an option now Lemonation now has some picks that can really work for him (instead of rakan/thresh/bard being all the rave). A few other things going for them is Balls having a solid split, Wildturtle still being Wildturtle and just the amount of experience and anti-tilt which is important in such a high pressure situation. Both C9 and CLG have some rookie or player who is only in their first full season (Omargod for CLG, Contractz for C9) and for C9 they have proven to have problems in clutch situations this year ( Finals of spring, Playoffs in summer) so I don't know if I have full confidence in their ability to pull off a Bo5 if they end up down 0-2 or maybe even 0-1. So while I do consider it unlikely I don't think people should write off Flyquest just yet.

Kinjishi1 votes

think Dig looks the best out of the 4. C9 looked horrible against DIG. CLG looked mostly horrible against IMT and NV. FLY... this isn't the old Hai on C9, so no miracle gauntlet run.

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