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SKT1 Is Like The Old Pokemon Dragon Type

Virgin Ray··55 votes·4,210 views

You can't defeat SKT1 unless it's another korean team, but time came to where the fairy type was introduced and it's only purpose was to counter dragon type. Let's hope C9 is that fairy type and wins worlds for NA. All hail C9 the comeback kings.

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Solari Fortune20 votes

What about Ice? They counter Dragon

Tribbles Foxfolk8 votes

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What about Ice? They counter Dragon

They do 2x damage to Dragon-Types, but Ice-Types are usually statistically awful and DON'T have Dragon resistance for whatever reason.

Fairy was, unfortunately, necessary to put Dragon-Types in check. But with the addition of Fairy-Types, it brought both Dragon-Types AS WELL AS ITSELF DOWN, with the exception. Fairy-Types are rarely run, to my knowledge at least, (exception: Gardevoir is so good, just get a Safeguard support in a Double-Battle and she's going to wreck face) and Dragon-Types are now rarely run in FEAR of the possible Fairy-Type/M Gardevoir counter-team.

(Also, side opinion, Sylveon is the worst Eeveelution, IMO. Concept was fine to introduce the new type, but the design is really bad in comparison to something like Umbreon, Flareon, Espeon, and pretty much every other Eeveelution. THOSE Eeveelutions are fairly simplistic and straight-forward in their design while still being extremely charming because they all evolve from the same cute-and-cuddly Eevee. Glaceon and Leafeon were less simplistic, but still perfectly fine and not overkill. Line up all the Eeveelutions, INCLUDING an Eevee, and compare them. Sylveon sticks out like a sore, infected thumb among them.)

ModAttysu The Poro2 votes

I love Sylveon D:

Solari Fortune12 votes

I have never played X/Y, mainly cause I didn't have 3DS. So I never did experience Sylveon, I do know that it was used in some creepy pictures for pokemon. Also, I do not understand this whole getting perfect stats thing with pokemon these days. I just grab a few that I think look cool and that is my team.

Sp33d Zer01 votes

TL;DR; Pokemon get stats when you breed them, and you can force them form the parents to give perfect stats from a parent to child. Pokemon give stats when you kill them, kill specfic pokemon x number of times depending on what you want your 2-3 best stats to be.

Solari Fortune15 votes
Mecha MaIphite2 votes

pedo nature ggwp

Earl Eulrich1 votes

yea, blue/red...those were the times

Melledoneus2 votes

Pokemon Yellow, where the first gym was the hardest god damn thing because your starter was Pikachu.

Against Brock.

Lord Dycedarg1 votes

Butterfree and Mankey forever.

IGotScuttleCrabs1 votes

Butterfree MVPokemon to this day. If I remember correctly sleep powder had like a 90% hit chance? I used Butterfree as a main Pokémon in almost every game I played

Auz the Ripper1 votes

My strategy was to just to pick up a nidoran (male) and focus all my effert into it for the rest of the game.

Nidoking, For The Win, FOREVER

Severed Reality4 votes

Actually Florges is ran quite a bit due to it's high Special Defense, I'd say Xerneas too, but it's ubers, Mawile and Klefki are also ran quite a bit, the fairy type pool is just really shallow for now.

Baron Von Bangin2 votes

How can you forget Clefable and Azumarril?

JediSenpaiNP1 votes

FUCKING. AZUMARRIL. Stupid rain dance teams.

Yummy Sashimi1 votes

Actually, it's mainly used for belly drum aqua jetting.

JediSenpaiNP1 votes

Oh, i know. But a Rain Dance Huge Power Belly Drum aqua jet. truly, a force to be reckoned with.

OperationDEEZ11 votes

I'm convinced I'm the only one who runs Aromatisse.

The Soulforged1 votes

Who can forget garde?

darapier171 votes

what about blissey. HIGHEST BASE HP IN THE GAME

Axis the Dragon1 votes

Not to mention a very sizeable Special Defense

Lol what is a Hydreigon

SKOBODO1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Eevee Girl Alex,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=APAhcKhA,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2015-10-11T04:00:13.997+0000)

They do 2x damage to Dragon-Types, but Ice-Types are usually statistically awful and DON'T have Dragon resistance for whatever reason.

Two of the strongest dragons in OU have a 4x weakness to ice though: Garchomp and Dragonite. Altaria has one too before it Mega evolves, so if you hit it on the switch you're going to devastate it. Weavile, Kyurem-Black, and Mamoswine are strong Ice-types in OU, and some non-ice types, such as Starmie, can also run Ice moves.

Fairy was, unfortunately, necessary to put Dragon-Types in check. But with the addition of Fairy-Types, it brought both Dragon-Types AS WELL AS ITSELF DOWN, with the exception. Fairy-Types are rarely run, to my knowledge at least[...]

Clefable is incredibly strong, as are Mega-Altaria, Azumarill, and Meda-Diancie. Fairy type is one of the best defensive types in the game, with only two weaknesses: Steel and Poison. Fairy types alone have made some Pokémon bring Poison moves for coverage.

(Also, side opinion, Sylveon is the worst Eeveelution, IMO.

Perhaps from a design standpoint (although all Eeveelutions are pretty good looking, so it doesn't say much), but it's the strongest Eeveelution from a gameplay point of view. It's the only one that's currently decent in OU, after all.

Note that I only care about singles. I'm not really a fan of doubles or triples.

The Soulforged1 votes

Garchomp is still strong in OU? I haven't played OU since garchomp was ubers so please bare with me. He's almost never used in vgc. Also, umbreon is actually strong in ou as a pivot ;*(. One of the only pokemon with access to wish/heal bell along with foul play.

SKOBODO2 votes

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Garchomp is still strong in OU? I haven't played OU since garchomp was ubers so please bare with me. He's almost never used in vgc. Also, umbreon is actually strong in ou as a pivot ;*(. One of the only pokemon with access to wish/heal bell along with foul play.

Garchomp is A+ in the OU viability thread on Smogon, so I'd assume it's pretty strong, yes. Umbreon is not ranked at all in OU, although perhaps they're underestimating it.

Garchomp is apparently tier 3 in Doubles. Two different meta games, I suppose.

The Soulforged1 votes

I'm a vgc player so I don't know shit. Anyway, when I did play OU, I always used umbreon even though nobody ever wanted to use him ;*(. Umbreon = best eeveelution.

SKOBODO1 votes

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I'm a vgc player so I don't know shit. Anyway, when I did play OU, I always used umbreon even though nobody ever wanted to use him ;*(. Umbreon = best eeveelution.

Perhaps you should try some UU, Umbreon has a solid B+ rank there. It faces some stiff competition with Florges (A+) who fills a similar role, though.

The Soulforged1 votes

Umbreon has access to physical bulk though.

Noam Braumsky1 votes

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Two of the strongest dragons in OU have a 4x weakness to ice though: Garchomp and Dragonite. Altaria has one too before it Mega evolves, so if you hit it on the switch you're going to devastate it. Weavile, Kyurem-Black, and Mamoswine are strong Ice-types in OU, and some non-ice types, such as Starmie, can also run Ice moves.

Clefable is incredibly strong, as are Mega-Altaria, Azumarill, and Meda-Diancie. Fairy type is one of the best defensive types in the game, with only two weaknesses: Steel and Poison. Fairy types alone have made some Pokémon bring Poison moves for coverage.

Perhaps from a design standpoint (although all Eeveelutions are pretty good looking, so it doesn't say much), but it's the strongest Eeveelution from a gameplay point of view. It's the only one that's currently decent in OU, after all.

Note that I only care about singles. I'm not really a fan of doubles or triples.

I like to run a Weavile with Ice Shard, Ice Punch, Counter, and Night Slash with a Focus Sash. He can normally take care of most dragons and other physical sweepers if I'm lucky.

SKOBODO1 votes

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I like to run a Weavile with Ice Shard, Ice Punch, Counter, and Night Slash with a Focus Sash. He can normally take care of most dragons and other physical sweepers if I'm lucky.

You should probably switch Night Slash for Knock Off, Knock Off will do far more damage on the first hit, and it'll still do more damage in total after two hits (unless the crit chance from Night Slash pays off). Besides that, making them lose an item can be really valuable.

You might want to consider Icicle Crash over Ice Punch for some extra damage. You'd lose some accuracy but gain quite a bit of damage and a 30% flinch chance.

Axis the Dragon1 votes

But Dragonite's Marvel Scale. :O

HAIL WHYDRA1 votes

Why would you play a dragon type when you have mega kangeskhan with sucker punch, and earthquake?

Noam Braumsky1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Giratina,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=APAhcKhA,comment-id=000300000006,timestamp=2015-10-11T12:32:48.220+0000)

Why would you play a dragon type when you have mega kangeskhan with sucker punch, and earthquake?

Wide Guard.

OperationDEEZ18 votes

I thought Psychics were OP in Gen 1 though?

Xonra7 votes

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LankPants3 votes

maybe Gengars and that was about it.

There was a bug in gen 1 that made Psychics immune to Ghost moves rather than weak to them. Psychics actually had a huge advantage against Gengar since there moves had 2x effect (Gengar's part Poison) and they were immune to its STAB moves.

Sicksadpanda2 votes

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There was a bug in gen 1 that made Psychics immune to Ghost moves rather than weak to them. Psychics actually had a huge advantage against Gengar since there moves had 2x effect (Gengar's part Poison) and they were immune to its STAB moves.

Except I believe Lick was the only ghost attack in gen 1. Night Shade is a fixed damage, so it's unreliable in PvP.

LankPants4 votes

Night Shade is a fixed damage, so it's unreliable in PvP.

Night Shade is strong on defensive Pokemon like Dusclops, since it often works out to be their highest damage option.

Except I believe Lick was the only ghost attack in gen 1.

That's true, plus every bug move and Pokemon sucked which is basically why Psychic was so broken.

Kaitri7 votes

it will end like season 3 and 4... "dont worry guys the last hope for na is Clo..." KOREAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA "nvm next year :("

ARequestOfDeath4 votes

"pokemon sucks"

-my most recent punching bag.

JFRANKSTA3 votes

everyone seems to forget that dragon was ALWAYS weak to ice

Sicksadpanda2 votes

I breed for perfect pokemon. But! I use weak pokemon, because it's hilarious to watch the mighty legendaries get owned by an oversized bee.

jDiosama1 votes

The old Dragon type used to suck major balls. Yeah, they resisted pretty much everything, but they only had 1 STAB move and it was fixed damage. They were more or less just slightly better Normal types

Maszii1 votes

Bitch plz. Just get Blastoise with icebeam izzi

Titanium701 votes

Than.. which Team is the Psychic-Type?

T RexHasTinyArms1 votes

Uh, more like Psychic in the orginal Pokemon. Only weakness is a trick. Weak to bug and ghost types, but there were no strong bugs in the original and the only ghost was ghost poison so it got one shot by psychics that had better psychic moves than the best ghost moves.

SKT may look like they have weaknesses in theory, but they don't exist in matches.

P.S. C9 clearly not going to be David to slay the SKT. RIP the C9 dream after 0-4 day.

LaceUp231 votes

Yeah, they got their asses beat.

Stephenizgod1 votes

The fuck is you talking about? Dragon is hard countered by Ice. An Articuno, Lapras, or Dewgong can usually 1-shot any Dragon with just Ice Beam. Everyone knows Psychic is the best type their only weakness is Bug and Bug Type is literally one of the worst Types (i believe Grass is the weakest because most of them come with Poison creating a type with the most weakness and fewest strengths) as there a very few strong bug type attacks and none of the strong bug types even learn them naturally... Although if you wanna talk strongest overall pokemon (other then Mewtwo...) we can look at Tauros, that dude was a monster...

Bob McFreewin1 votes

u mean cynthia's garchomp?

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