The whole purpose is that it isn’t easy to go perfect. You go with your gut and stick with it. They wouldn’t offer you nearly 150USD in skins if you were able to get mulligans and change stuff because you were wrong. It’s the nature of the beast. That’s what makes a really good pickem so rare and so great.
Warlord Scrap3 votesI mean are people complaining this hard. All real sports have this its called placing bets and its supposed to be hard. I know quite a few people who lost large amounts of money betting. At least this is free with quite a few rewards.
Electro5221 votesYeah, I wouldn't say people are complaining. All we really lost is an opportunity.
We're just voicing our surprise.
MysterQ1 votesQuite a few rewards?
An icon. Everyone literally gets an icon, unless you are asleep. 4 rare skins $120. Actually very good prize... oh wait the chances of anyone getting perfect pick is unlikely.
Riot could easily give a single skin to top16 or something.
Warlord Scrap1 votesyour expecting something for free for something thats literally is just for shits and gigs. Your not betting something. And also you got 10 world tokens
MysterQ1 votesLol.
A multimillion dollar company. "Have your generous icon and 10 worlds tokens." Also, we are a real sport. Please respect us. Ignore that college basketball has a bigger prize for the 16th place drafter than LoL perfect prediction.
Warlord Scrap1 votesUm how much does lol esports make compared to college basketball. How many scholarships is lol getting compared to basketball. yea. And its a free to play game. your really the greedy one.
MysterQ1 votesCall me greedy. I don't need to insult people, just look at the numbers.
10 NA LCS teams this year. A bunch of new ones. The upfront FEE is $8,000,000 MILLION dollars, with additional fees. New teams have to pay $3million. And you have to keep paying millions over time. Championship Ashe sold for OVER $7,000,000. 7 MILLION with one skin/ward they produced.
So yes, they may lose some money if people don't buy those 4 skins. But it isn't going to bankrupt them. It isn't generous prize. It is less than 0.01%, less than 0.001%, less than 0.00004% of what they made just on Ashe skin sales. Not even including the fees for teams to join etc.
I am not saying give $100 to everyone. I am saying give 1 skin to the top 16 or something. Because it is rigged to say only the perfect bracket <1% chance gets a "generous" prize.
Warlord Scrap1 votesthis year. You mean the thing that was decided as worlds as worlds was happening. Again your complaining about not getting enough free stuff in a free to play game for a basically pointless bracket that costs you no money. Thats the definition of greedy. skins are there best form of profit currently. You want them to hand out there best skins why. because you feel you deserve it. And no its not rigged gambling is rigged. If riot charged you 5 dollars to make a bracket itd be rigged.
Miror B1 votesAnd with that LZ loss, only one person is currently still "in" for the skins. While I do agree that challenge needs to be involved, the fact they aren't doing "pick'ems" with regional games bugs me a bit as they could make it actually entertaining. Perhaps have weekly leaderboards across all regions, and have split-based icon/ward rewards should you hit certain "milestones". They could even make it "kid-friendly" by not including any cash-related stuff.
Warlord Scrap2 votesId be interested in split based pickems that have the opportunity or even placing bets with an over/under on games with ip. Granted I know the bets would probably be out of the question because of laws/esrb ratings.
Gen Nakazora1 votesYeah... Laws are different anywhere you go. Even in the US it varies from state to state. The state I live in, it is totally illegal to gamble actual money on things like sports drafts - even if it is online. I've tried small things with Lol just to see if I could get lucky, but as soon as money is involved I am locked out. The only gambling here is either lottery and scratch cards, or going to the Native American reservations that have casinos and doing it there.
Warlord Scrap1 voteswell yea thats why i mentioned it
Gen Nakazora1 votesWell, from what I'm seeing in pick'em, it says about 17% of players who guessed are still in. Kind of surprising when you see this explosion of backlash over an upset like this. lol
... of course, this is coming from someone who didn't care about it and picked Samsung because they were the underdogs. I am not expecting to guess them all right, let along all of the Quarter Finals matches. This was just sort of a pleasant surprise for me that my support of the underdogs isn't totally wasted.
Takito1 votesNo, only 1 person is still in because the others didn't have a perfect group stage...
Gen Nakazora1 votesI actually realized that long after I made my comment. Sorry about that. My view only had the Knockout stage, cause I found out about Pick'em halfway into groups. lol I actually didn't realize you needed both to be perfect. That is... a little steep to be honest, but meh. It's not supposed to be easy anyways
MysterQ1 votesIt is not supposed to be possible at all. It is literally a rigged contest.
Gen Nakazora1 votesNot 'rigged' per se, nor impossible. Breaking it down, you'd have (My numbers are under the assumption that every team has equal chance, which is not accurate. There would be no hard number to put for individual teams chances though, so making it even between them is the best way to go for this argument):
1 in 4 chance on every first seed for groups, or 1 in 258 for all four top seeds. Same for second seed (since you can't determine who is first seed beforehand with this argument, you have to count all four teams still), meaning perfect guesses in groups are 1 in 65,536 chance.
Now, counting Knockout separate to start out, you have a 1 in 2 chance for any single team to make it to semifinals, so 1 in 16. (Again, this is not even considering who the teams are, or how good they look. This is simply flat chances for all teams for the sake of argument only.) Semifinals are 1 in 4 chance, making it 1 in 64 so far. Finals adds the last bit, putting us at 1 in 128 for Knockouts - a much less daunting number.
To finish off the argument, we just combine the two, giving us a 1 in 8,388,608 chance for a perfect draft. So... you are actually more likely to draft correctly - even without paying any attention - than winning the lottery.
Of course, with sports, even eSports, you have estimated odds for each individual team, making this number higher or lower depending on who you pick - in theory. Remember, they are always ESTIMATED odds. Odds don't decide winners. Winners decide winners.
I know this might seem unneeded, but I more just wanted to point out, yes, it is possible. Just very, very unlikely. lol Still, I'd rather take my chances on this than the lottery. It is almost twice as unlikely to win the lottery (closer to 1.6 times from what I'm calculating.)
Gen Nakazora1 votesLeaving this as a separate comment from my last... but it looks like there is no perfect draft. If i am actually looking at the person on the top of the leader board, and reading correctly... one of the groups it says he got 10 of 16 points. I'd imagine that means something got predicted wrong. Maybe which team got which seed? I am not sure, I didn't get around in time to even see the scoring for groups. But Group B is the group in question.
Edit: Ok, the rules does have the scoring for groups, I must just be blind. Yeah, they messed up which place Immortals and Gigabyte Marines took. So they lost 4 points for that, and 2 for not getting the entire group perfect. I don't know if I am actually looking at the right person though, so I'm not going to state this as fact. I just saw this and wanted to point out what I had seen, if nothing else.