Quick Gameplay Thoughts: March 30

RiotMeddler·3/30/2017, 4:34:10 PM·1 votes·63,046 views

Hi folks,

More words below, hope your weeks have treated you well so far!


Aurelion Sol

Apologies if I've mentioned this before and forgotten, been seeing some questions about it still. After testing a few different directions we concluded that a mini update on Aurelion Sol wasn't something we thought we should do, at least not in the short to medium term. He's still got a couple of issues we'd like to improve at some point (play and counterplay around star use, Q satisfaction). The possible changes we were testing didn't work out as well as we'd hoped in game though, creating an experience that wasn't more appealing for people who weren't already interested in playing Aurelion Sol and was often felt as worse for those who already play Aurelion Sol. We've cut that work off as a result and are putting the time into other projects that look likely to give more game improvement for the hours spent.


Aatrox

We'll be doing some further followup on Aatrox in 7.8. Primary target's going to be making it so Aatrox has a less terrible time of it if he's jungling. Exact changes uncertain, though we'll be looking at passive interactions as a possibility of course.


Udyr

We should have some changes to Udyr in 7.8 too. Current things we're targeting there are making Tiger a more viable build and adding a bit of power to Turtle. Probably hitting PBE early next week.


Responses to these threads

I'd imagine this is pretty obvious already to anyone who's read through a few of these threads, but for anyone new figured it was worth clarifying how I approach these threads a bit. With the occasional exception I'll put a post up and then put time aside at least once during that day to respond to some of the discussion thread below it. I'll sometimes put time into reading a thread/responding further the day after as well, though that's less consistent. After that I'll have moved on to a more recent thread generally though, so apologies, but anything posted after that's very unlikely to get answered and may not get read either.

In terms of what sort of stuff I prioritize responding to I'm more likely to get into discussions about some of the things discussed in the opening post, talk on major issues/perceived issues with the current state of the game and champions we've recently worked on or are about to work on. Something I'd like to avoid is every single thread becoming a set of 'What do you think of X champion' for every champion in the game every time, so I'll generally skip those questions if there's nothing concrete to talk about.


Doran's Shield Changes

Continue to test pretty well. Highly likely they're part of mid-season as a result.

238 Comments

Üdyr3/30/2017, 6:23:55 PM14 votes

Meddler - You mention Tiger but no Phoenix changes on Udyr. I see Phoenix in a relatively worse state than Tiger - especially early game. Thoughts?

Fenikkuro3/30/2017, 6:08:01 PM9 votes

Hey Meddler,

Just a point of concern about the Camille changes on the PBE, I'm aware her main role is top and that's what the balance changes are targeting, but some of us really enjoy Camille jungle, even though her main weakness is her god-awful pre-tiamat clear. That being said making her W heal only work on champions would only exacerbate the weaknesses of Camille jungle. I think the goal of the changes would still be accomplished by allowing her to heal from jungle monsters while removing the minion heal.

Spideraxe3/30/2017, 5:18:41 PM8 votes

Hey Meddler are you guys going to look at Poachers Dirk?

xxxDogmanxxx3/30/2017, 4:38:15 PM7 votes

Holy shit, for the first time ever I caught one of Meddler's QGT's just as it goes up!

Meddler! Since you've mentioned before that Xin Zhao's in the Tier 1 list of updateable champions after the Tank Class update, are there any plans/changes for him that you guys are already working on? Any news on him is much appreciated!

Ahristocats3/30/2017, 5:03:57 PM6 votes

Is something going to be done about Lulu?

It's rare for a game to happen in high elo without Lulu being Picked or Banned, and she keeps a high win rate Do you think Lulu is being banned for wrong reasons?

i wonder what you think about this, because it reminds me the case of Corki where he dominated high elo for months before riot realised that he needed nerfs

Kyunsei3/30/2017, 5:16:45 PM4 votes

Can't wait to see what you cooked for us in mid-season update !

Warlord Scrap3/30/2017, 5:14:01 PM4 votes

@meddler any word on a Yorick skin its been skin years since he released and he still hasn't received a single skin

The Fake Shaco3/30/2017, 4:51:37 PM4 votes

Can we get a comment on the shaco nerfs? We would like to know what you're targetting with the recent nerfs, as we think bruiser shaco is op and needs nerfed.... But these changes hurt AP and AD assassin shaco more than bruiser. (Specifically the q damage removal. As an AP player losing the 80 base and the ratio no longer scaling off the 130% bonus hurts.) If you think all shaco builds needed a nerf that is fine, we just want to know.

Sahn Uzal3/30/2017, 5:09:08 PM3 votes

How do you think the changes to Crit items will affect GP? A pretty.. Specific question, but I'm really looking forward to seeing what you guys have lined up for patch 7.9 (hopefully), and how that stuff will affect GP :P

''Do I look like a patient man?'' -Gangplank

Tensa Zangetsu3/30/2017, 6:12:20 PM2 votes

AurelionSol AurelionSol AurelionSol About Aurelion Sol, please just consider the idea about make their Q stun at the moment you throw and reduced cooldown of their ult , just this gonna make him better.

What is your opinion on this ?

Blïtz Prank3/31/2017, 3:36:56 AM2 votes

@Meddler hello, the new champion gonna be pre- or post the mid season update?

what you deserve3/30/2017, 6:56:49 PM2 votes

Do you expect the Amumu changes to actually go through? Even if you're not building him full AP it feels like having him on a team with a Lux or Viktor would be ragequit-worthy.

Retief3/30/2017, 5:40:53 PM2 votes

Are there any plans to change bork? I like it, since it makes adcs feel good again, but bork does seem to be overshadowing other starting items.

MR OCTOPUSSI3/30/2017, 8:08:12 PM1 votes

Hey Meddler, what about the Fiddlesticks fiddle range indicator for his w - drain? :)

how satisfied are you with the fiddle changes? thanks for reading!

Tidecalling3/30/2017, 8:48:07 PM1 votes

Hi Meddler,

Do you still have any thoughts about bot lane Ziggs at the moment? Like nerfs, tweaks, buffs, etc.?

Northmund3/30/2017, 11:02:22 PM1 votes

What?Jungle? You guys like to make people go insane right? Aatrox need some passive changes.His early game is super awful and what you get late is not worth. Or you make him better late or makes his passive work without passive stack (only AS). It is super easy to get snowballed on him early.

Thighonia3/30/2017, 6:43:59 PM1 votes

There's concerns on the Vlad subreddit that he'll be Azir/Kalista-ed any thoughts on his performance lately and whether or not its out of line?