Welcome to the Dev Corner - An Introduction

RiotPWYFF·10/28/2015, 6:11:03 PM·6 votes·56,947 views

Hey all,

With preseason 2016 kicking off, we also figured that now would be a good time to try out some new ways to engage.

First: goals.

We want to build a sustainable channel of casual communication between Riot developers and the community.

In an ideal world, this would be scalable for all languages (although I wonder about the conversation overload), but until our developers learn other languages, we're going to try this dev corner. For now, I believe all regions can login and comment, but if you're not speaking English there's a high chance we won't understand.

Anyway.

Welcome to the (presently named) Dev Corner. This is going to be an experimental communications channel for teams at Riot to have a conversation about, well, pretty much anything to do with designing League of Legends.

We're a little different from our delightful Engineering Tech Blog (https://engineering.riotgames.com/), as the primary focus is going to be on design discussion, with the potential to branch out to other topics in the future.

Additionally, we're going to aiming for rapid iteration, which is highfalutin talk for wanting to try out a lot of different things, ranging from...

  • Low-scope dev blogs - Don't expect any pretty formatting, but we should be able to talk about more interesting behind-the-scenes dev work, faster.

  • Office hours - Ever want to just... chat? It's tough for some on a busy work schedule, but maybe office hours can bring some consistency to it all.

  • Open forum discussions - Every month or two we'll get a team together for a nice, pleasant open discussion where nothing can go wrong and everyone will be pleasant.

  • State of the Game! - Every now and then (maybe a quarter?) we'll assemble the design leads of League to talk a bit more about... wait for it... The State of the Game.

  • ... and more! - In reality, while we have a few ideas about what we want to put in here, a lot of the content & discussion we push forward with will probably be with your feedback.

We're looking forward to seeing what sticks. Have an additional FAQ where the Qs aren't actually FA, they're just ones I figured you'd ask so I'm answering them now (I'll add to this as we go):

Why'd you make this? We had two challenges to solve: one was to figure out a way for developers to engage with players in a quick and easy way. Two: make more constructed conversations around specific topics. This lets us accomplish both.

What about the boards? I'm going to be honest about the challenge of the boards: while there's a lot of great discussion there, it's often challenging to dive deep for an extended period of time. Hopefully we can set an example here of good, constructive conversation that will spill out into the boards, and vice versa.

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76 Comments

Shadow Puppet10/28/2015, 8:32:58 PM4 votes

I love the idea of this. I'm hoping people will try to talk about the incentives behind design decisions and how those goals are achieved rather than "This one champ is OP/UP plz nerf/buff". The reasons behind the design is much more interesting. I'm looking forward to this.

Tobiscotte10/28/2015, 6:22:35 PM4 votes

So 6 adc gonna have change , but what about Twitch ? He as been pretty weak this year :/ Maybe a little change , not a rework or new spells , but just buff something in him , like his W slow ? :o

Parshy04710/28/2015, 10:29:25 PM3 votes

You guys ever consider doing like a dev talk live stream?

Swizzle10/28/2015, 6:13:58 PM3 votes

that preseason tho...

hopefully Kog and Corki don't lose their AP potential

Photos of Ghosts11/3/2015, 11:07:17 AM2 votes

Day 4 where? Time zones OP.

aj502 Oneill11/6/2015, 9:56:25 PM2 votes

Is this the place for game suggestions, specifically "pre-game/queue", to be relayed to someone that might have an impact on implementing it? (serious ones, not just "cool" and "I wish I had" ones)

Thx

FLOW3R1311/12/2015, 6:10:43 AM2 votes

This game is easy

MKnightium11/17/2015, 7:51:03 PM2 votes

Okay thankfully this is a decent chance to talk.

Anyhow, are some of the Juggernauts soon to be reworked again? Because, honestly, the new Skarner is...well impossible to be as good as he used to be. Back then the broken people like Riven or Yasuo feared him because he could beat them but now; outside those zones he's pretty helpless.

So really I'm asking if it's possible to get the old Skarner back sometime in the near future?

Jackisace6/7/2016, 5:27:44 PM2 votes

Hi, im fairly new but i posted this in another board, was hoping for some feedback. But also some advice as to how i could join the dev community?

So many games where i see ppl quit cos they dont want to be supp.

I like the new team builder style system, but the problem with it is that it takes ages to get into a game, because there isnt enough of a balance between ppl who want top and ppl who want supp.

Supp waiting time is like instant, but for top its like 10 mins. Now i know that isnt as bad as challenger or master tier players.

BUT..

I do think that it can be much better if the algorithm was more like:

Connect 10 similarly matched people into lobby; Seperate them into red and blue teams; If(someone wants to play supp) Let them play supp; Else PickSupp(); Place other people into preferred positions; If there is another position that needs to be filled use a similar algorithm to picksupp();

Void picksupp(){ Find player who has been NOMINATED to play supp the least (or randomly pick if they are all on the same count); Nominate that player to supp position; Nominated player.Nomination_Count += 1; }

Now i know this isnt perfect, however if the algorithm was a little more like this i think it would reduce queue times massively and also people would have an appreciation that every now and then, someone has to play a position they dont particularly like, and also an appreciation for the support role.

Oh also, every week (or every day or whatever), reduce everyones nomination_count to 0 so new ppl dont get stuck playing supp every game

Archenz10/28/2015, 6:27:32 PM2 votes

GOOD JOB PWYFF, communications rocks. ALSO, BUFF RENGAR PLEASE, 2 WEAK. /s

Puddy10/28/2015, 6:27:55 PM2 votes

Thank you! Now i feel like i can discuss and look at riots thought process behind their decisions without going on the G&B boards or on reddit.

BaptisteLebrun10/28/2015, 8:15:56 PM2 votes

Just leaving my first comment ever (if I remember correctly) on these boards to say I'm happy with the recent "buffs" on Riot's communications. These new initiatives you're mentioning sound like very important steps to a healthier, sustained dialogue between players' expectations and the dev/design team. I'm looking forward to it.

kaseropsomo4/7/2016, 12:55:36 PM1 votes

[zombie-brand-mindblown]

BeZaggin4/29/2016, 6:16:40 AM1 votes

I read that story, "the bird and the branch", and I found it to be really well written. I liked the way you guys showed us the scale and depth of the world subtly, introduced us to the way these characters would deal with problems and see the world around them, while never trying to cram information down our throats. I'm really curious, is there ever gonna be a dev blog about how the lore of LoL went all the way from "jax is a mysterious god of combat who came from out of nowhere for a mystery reason and has mysterious powers that he uses to beat people up for mysterious reasons" to these incredibly detailed, thought out and inter-connected stories from across the entire continent of valoran.

roitcantmatchmak5/6/2016, 8:55:48 AM1 votes

so when are u guys going to take rank matchmaking seroius and stop f us over? placing placement matches with promotion matches is a joke? Matching people with similar skill level does not exsist in ur game....having 4 poepel who have no clue wtf there doing in 90% of my rank games...cant upgrade wards, cant pick champs for group fights are counter picks, roaming solo dying over and over.. them coming to rank not caring if they loose just want to play a new champ they just got, wtf is this shit for rank? dynamic ques stomping over solo que....even ur rank sysytem is a joke....fire the people in ur office responsible for this. And get people in there fix this crap..this is a joke...u want to fix the rage in ur game well start fixing some of the problems causing it first...this is preschool managing ur rank system, and matchmaking...start taking it serious

FoX9GH4/6/2016, 7:50:45 PM1 votes

Im still waiting for rework of talon. ( passive snd e mainly) and visual ofc. When!?

Arakadia7/9/2016, 8:11:31 PM1 votes

Why isn't there much communication about Solo Q and DQ? So many posts and no Red responses. Silence is not a good answer to your community.

PsycoMan1577/10/2016, 8:24:13 AM1 votes

So, I just watched ALLCHAT at the anime expo, and all I can say is, I wish I could experience the energy, and happiness that they express. I know that riot is trying so hard to make it one and the same, but sometimes... it doesn't feel like that's achievable. Not that I'm upset, just hopeful. Keep trying, I believe in you! (sorry, I didn't know where else to post this)[slayer-jinx-catface]

DjBabune4D10/17/2018, 2:26:41 PM1 votes

Ok guys i dont know where to type else so lets flash to what do i really want and may some of you. So basicly back when there was IP system i allways would of get 2 champions worth 6300 IP in a week cause im a NOLIFER. Now with the BE.. Its hard to level up.. Get a champion worth of 6300 BE in a week (imposible for me cause i lost potention to play more). Its hard specialy for those who are 100+levels (im 105lvl). If any of you agree with me leave a comment, let me know am i not the only one missing IP i know for sure FOR SURE nothings gonna change unless theres many people that agree with me (probably). Thank you for your patients. Best regards- DjBbabune4D.

b1uew0lf1/26/2019, 10:12:21 PM1 votes

Thank you for your time. I am not complaining about this champion because of wins or losses I am because this champion is Sylas This new champion (Syras) is TOO balanced. He has everything to win battles and is unstoppable. From what i have seen he has ( Unlimited health steal / Strong crowd control / Unlimited vision destroying wards / He is AP + AD / he has spell immune / And armor + ability armor. That is what I'v have seen in every game I have played with this character.

Yukíí2/23/2019, 5:57:53 AM1 votes

when do akali buffs that will help her sustain in **midlane ** come through you guys want her to be an assassin but you delayed her combos you guys wanted her kit to be around her w but gutted shroud you guys wanted to make her lane phase ie. her only good phase weaker by taking her sustain away along with making her only defensive tool less accessible.

why are other champions with higher win rates and lower ban rates getting buff and reworks when akali who you guys choose to rework is in such a bad state maybe you don't see it cause you dont play her so you don't know how bad it feels to play her but i would like to know i love the game but you guys make it hard to enjoy when you cant play your champion because you refuse to help her actauly be balanced in a good way

i get how you did the nerfs but why take her sustain you've never taken vladimirs sustain , Darius sustain, illaoi sustain, nasus sustain, yorick sustain so why her. she needs it cause in the 5 seconds it takes to unload a full combo a zed has applied mark and hit qs and es an ekko has popped passive and electrocute a talon has popped passive and electrocute a katarina has popped two daggers and electrocute or a Leblanc has applied a q w or double chain so why is she being treated like she can do what all these champs can.

she has no way to dive

no way to sustain

no mobility that easy to use

no reliable team fighting

long ult cool down that limits her ability to fight

the only good thing about this re work was the visual update and showing that you guys on the balance and game play teams don't care about champions or players and only care about things that seem important to you.

CyanZ2/26/2019, 3:57:41 PM1 votes

Good morning fellas, i need to tell you that you make a huge mistake about akali as is be now. This present akali is mega mistake because is useless. The old akali was awesome and more useful , i'm really dissatisfied for this akali, i'm only asking to think again to make akali as it was before, think all people that was playing akali and now they cant play becouse is useless, that those players that they has buy all skin im one of them that i have almost all skins from beautiful akali, men, akali was my love and now i cant play akali. Please make akali as it was before. Please riot. think of me.

Selkιs3/1/2019, 6:42:31 PM1 votes

Greetings, On Summoner's Rift I would like to see time changes. Day and night and maybe weather changes effect too. And for matchmaking I would like it more balanced on level, winrate, elo, premades and such to avoid trollers and leavers. Thank you for your hardworks so far. [katarina-love]

DesperatePower4/12/2019, 10:32:01 PM1 votes

Are you going to look into Ryze? I am well aware that a few months ago you were taking a break from Azir, Kalista and Ryze. But Azir and Kalista have both gotten reasonable changes in the past couple months so I’m assuming that period is over? He is currently in argueably the weakest state he has ever been for soloque but is still seeing sizeable competitive play.

Dïck6/10/2019, 12:07:39 AM1 votes

Every competitive game ever created has had voice chat across teammates when they directly affect the outcome of games. You have the programming to do it, but ONLY if you Q up with 5 people. So, WHY not just have it for your random generated teams in ranked, and if you don't want to be part of it, simply turn it off. (like you do in team chat). Also, you've been around for like 10 years, yet i can't TURN OFF CHAT permanently yet. Instead every game i have to remember to mute all. WHY don't you have a permanent disable team chat? (like you do for disable ALL chat). Doing these two very simple things WILL drastically reduce toxicity in your game. Most players only get mad at other for not knowing or noticing something that they, themselves, know or noticed. It's too HARD to type and typically detrimental to the game to stop and type, as well as typically it's too late. So, Riot, WHY haven't you made these extremely simple changes? I promise you if you think it won't reduce toxicity, you're wrong. ALSO, your game is already ruled THE MOST TOXIC game NA, so please stop putting this off and make the change. Standing by for questions. Thank you for your time. Very Respectfully, Mr Utility

BumbleBeeTuna866/16/2019, 9:59:16 PM1 votes

im a lil confused whether or not my suggestions belong in which area..dev corner or concepts..but im going to leave a suggestion here and there and hope no one gets pissy with me..my suggestions are simple..and for good reason..sometimes i lose my cursor, with all the flashy graphics going on especially in team fights ..i would like to have an option to have a color optional translucent ring around the cursor..so its easier to see..maybe an inch or 2..i think it would help everyone tremendously..2nd suggestion..since there are so many ever changing champs..meaning so many possible counters..i think integrating the old banning system with the new would be great..giving a total of 7 bans per team.. that way if your favorite champ has not been reworked and several new champs or reworks are making them obsolete this would be a great opportunity to not get super bullied by a whole freaking team of counters..everyone gets 1 ban..one gets 3

Cloak3d7/9/2019, 3:46:46 PM1 votes

A sugestion guys, in tft the voice chat disconects when we are in party and lost the game, it kind of sucks since we're talking and connection breaks as soon as we take last hit, i believe it would be nice if we could keep on voice chat until we left the party or started a new game.

soufmohti10/29/2019, 7:46:50 PM1 votes
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Remmoh11/13/2019, 2:09:12 AM1 votes

I was wondering if the individuals that were around since the first season of ranked and even before that would be receiving anything special within the 10th anniversary year? I know this might be a lot but to all those UFO Corki guys out there it might be nice to see some appreciation from Riot for sticking around for so long. Anyways, the game has been an absolute wonder and allowed me to keep in contact with many friends from back home as I was in the US military for 8 years and that's how my friends and I kept in contact and gaming together. I appreciate everything the company has done and the directions you are taking it. Just food for thought. Cheers.