Quick Gameplay Thoughts: September 7

RiotMeddler·9/7/2018, 4:19:46 PM·1 votes·158,325 views

Hi folks,

Usual Disclaimers

These posts will often contain talk about future work we're doing, or planning to do, that isn't yet guaranteed to ship. The nature of the work could change or, depending on what we discover, projects mentioned may get delayed or even stopped. If you'd like to see a Tweet whenever a new one of these posts goes up: https://twitter.com/RiotMeddler


Pyke Indicator and other champs

As mentioned in an Ask Riot post a little while back we've been considering adding an indicator like Pyke has to some other execute abilities. Current plan is to do so for some execute abilities, but not all. Abilities where judging the threshold isn't a core part of the abilities skill check should be good fits for an indicator (e.g. Urgot ult). On the other hand abilities where a really significant part of the skill expression is in gauging the reset we'll likely keep in their current form (e.g. Darius ult).

In terms of when we'll add those, first up will be Urgot, in 8.19. We're looking to do just one initially as a check on whether this adds meaningful power to a champion or not. Assuming that goes well we'll then look at other cases to do shortly after (Cho ult and Garen ult against villains are likely choices, given they've already got indicators which just aren't as clear as Pyke's).


Smite as a default in matchmade games in 8.18

In patch 8.18 we'll be making it so, if you're put into a lobby in the jungle position for any map, you'll have Smite automatically put in as one of your summoner spells if you don't already have it. You'll be free to swap which key it's on, or even replace it with another Summoner Spell entirely (this isn't like Nexus Blitz where Smite's mandatory for those queued as jungle). Goal of the change is to avoid cases where someone wants Smite but forgot to take it, not change Summoner Spell usage at all otherwise.


Nexus Blitz Alpha

Nexus Blitz's alpha test run comes to an end next week when patch 8.18 goes out. We'll then pore over all the data and feedback we've gathered to figure out what next steps for it should be. We'll let you folks know what our thinking is as soon as we've got a concrete plan to share. From a process perspective can say this style of experimental mode on the live servers has been really helpful for us, so regardless of where Nexus Blitz ends up I expect we'll try another public prototype someday.

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278 Comments

Shaian9/7/2018, 4:35:47 PM34 votes

Hey Meddler, its 9 Months since you tried to bring Morgana and Zyra to Midlane. Both failed and made them worse on that role than they were before. Morg is getting a VGU, are you considering as a Midlaner as well? And what about Zyra?

Sharpest glasses9/7/2018, 4:27:36 PM19 votes

What's the plan for MonkeyKing ?

Mirfall9/7/2018, 4:24:04 PM15 votes

Please Meddler talk a little bit about Zyra. Her plants AI are so bugged, they don't attack and just stand there. Plus their HP changes some patches ago was such a big mistake imo.

Ninetales9/7/2018, 4:46:59 PM12 votes

Hey Meddler,

It's been just a little over a week since the Yorick nerfs, did they hit the mark you were aiming at?

Support 4 Lyfe9/7/2018, 4:40:23 PM12 votes

Ok, can we talk about Zyra's plants and how big of a joke they are compared to literally every other pet (yes, even Ivern's rock Daisy has a better AI than Zyra's plants and doesn't die from 1 hit)?

Compare Zyra's plants to Heimer's turrets, both of these champions are balanced and completely made up around their pets (Zyra's plants and Heimer's turrets), Heimer's turrets last forever unless killed, they also resist AoE abilites, resist DoT damage, have a bigger HP bar, take multiple MELEE and ranged attacks to die and have better AI, they also scale really well with AP, like unbelievably good.

Now, we have Zyra's plants, they last for 8 seconds (if you're lucky), they literally have no AI and can't even auto-target enemies unless you attack them (unlike Malzahar's minions, Heimer's turrets', Ivernn's Daisy and Annie's Tibbers), they also can't attack Dragons and Baron (every other pet literally can attack dragon's and baron), they take damage from AoE abilities, they scale awfully with AP, they can literally be 2-shot by basic attacks (1-shot my melee basic attacks) and 1 shot by DoT attacks, also, on-hit attacks kill them instantly (Orianna's passive, MF's passive), they also have awful base damage.

Please, do something about this, revert the plant's nerf and make them act like every other actual functioning pet, also, give them some hp/tankiness for god's sake.

Piri Sensei9/7/2018, 4:28:56 PM12 votes

Hey meddler!

What happened to item 3151 's buffs?

ShadowParker9/7/2018, 4:27:36 PM10 votes

Can we get some info on midlane Taliyah?

Is riot happy with her primarily being a jungler?

Many people from the Taliyahmains subreddit are asking for a revert to her minirework, is there any chance of that followed by nerfs to hit your initial goals of nerfing her waveclear?

Galiö9/7/2018, 5:17:14 PM9 votes

Awe no random statistics today. In always a fan of those. Fun to look at and speculate about.

Xenohaz9/7/2018, 4:24:28 PM9 votes

Any thoughts on Nunu so far? Too weak, too strong, or working as desired?

Pokemonred2009/7/2018, 4:55:08 PM7 votes

Is item 3056 still on the radar for a rework anytime soon?

RyzeTheSmurfMage9/7/2018, 9:13:44 PM7 votes

What's up with all these insults in this thread?

YumaS2Astral9/7/2018, 4:58:28 PM5 votes

Hey Meddler, what do you think of Hecarim? Hecarim

He seems very weak currently and has none of the tools that other bruisers currently have, and doesn't even have the option to top lane currently.

He is also too reliant on snowballing but can't snowball as reliably as other meta junglers, despite the fact that he falls off late game.

Zenzaga9/7/2018, 4:24:44 PM5 votes

How will you determine what key the smite goes on? If the point is to not have to worry in case you forgot to change to smite it's still going to be a problem if it's on the wrong key

Smeagiul9/7/2018, 4:31:27 PM5 votes

Is there a way we can get some details on the upcoming support items changes, if so, can the support players take part into the discussion ?

Zoli Ben9/7/2018, 4:41:01 PM4 votes

Hi Meddler! Thanks! Have a nice weekend!

shofaz9/7/2018, 4:30:34 PM4 votes

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Spideraxe9/7/2018, 4:23:07 PM3 votes

Hi Meddler can i ask about the stat pool for the pre game after rune and stat divorce, can i ask what other stats you guys would consider adding or removing since Rovient mentioned you guys already axed flat regen and are considering hybrid pen

Milan Radić9/7/2018, 5:07:39 PM1 votes

That Smite change is very very bad beacuse imagine if u wanna swap with let's say midlaner.You will be unable to change smite to ignite so please don't do thism

2Spicy Reformed9/7/2018, 4:34:16 PM1 votes

Hey Meddler,

With this new smite being auto taken how will you deal with people who want to swap roles in champ select?