Quick Gameplay Thoughts: June 15

Honestly she need some help at the moment.She is weak since new runes.Check her winrate.

Hi Meddler, independent of Rivens balance I wanted to bring up that there is a bug with her W and both R casts that prevent you from input buffering any auto attacks. I believe this happens because her cast times used to be 0.5s instead of 0.25s now. If you rightclick during their cast times to input buffer she just stands around awkwardly and eventually autos after a while. To get around this you currently have to spamclick on the target so that you input the auto after the cast time is over.

Another thing that bothers me is that when Dawnbringer Riven was released the way her fast combo works got changed. You officially integrated it in her kit instead of it being a bug. The combo is basically inputing a movement command during Broken Wings and then autoing a target with correct timing after. This would shave of a bit of the Q animation to essentially increase the DPS of your AA Q AA Q AA Q AA combo. With that change it is now easier to perform on higher ping but also around 15% slower for everyone else. I wanted to know if increasing the cancel speed could be a way to buff her since it rewards players that took the time to master the combo. When her Q animation cancel got slowed down it also slowed down trading patterns since Rivens used to Q -> move W to get in range for a quick stun and equally imortant you cannot Q3 -> move R2 anymore to guarantee your ultimate hits during the knock up.

Would you agree that there is quite a big difference between soloQ strenght and competetive strenght when it comes to Caitlyn? If there was a way to keep her from defining Pro-Play while making her viable in soloQ that would be great. Maybe adjusting her passive to the updated IE while taking away some of her tower pushing ability (i.e. removing her headshot proccing on turrets).

In regards to caitlyn, not only is her winrate atrocious but she also lost a lot of power due to her passive scaling off crit dmg modifier which ie used to have. Do you think a compensation for this is possible?

Ah, the "Caitlyn bar"

But now with the "diversity" there's a million caitlyns that define laning phase. Brand comes to mind, velkoz, xerath, heimer, lux, etc. They can all sit back safe and sound just zoning nearly every champion out of the lane to the point where you can't even play anymore. The problem now is that with marksman so weak, every other champion in the game that was strong and safe in a solo lane is now even more so since there are two of them. Sometimes I can't even play the game cause one aoe magic dmg spell takes half my health unless I'm a super tank like Illoai or chogath. How is this fair and fun? I know you guys love the fiesta that is the LCS, but 99% of your player base is low elo where team play isnt a thing so coordinated attacks and team comps are non existent and over half of them have no clue what a strategy is if it bit them on the ass. So it has become who can lock in the most cancerous champion first because there's no one to stop them, without dps from marksmen some tanks can be even harder to kill because your rotation of spells may not be as damaging as theirs and your autos just tickle them, even if you win the lane you may still not be able to deal with other champions on the map. Seriously what did you think was going to happen? You've also alienated a lot of players who like marksmen because they are marksmen. There are only three marksmen viable elsewhere on the map, one is a top laner and two are junglers. To me marksmen weren't strong on their own. It was the supports and junglers that dictated the game bot lane, and still do to an effect. I'm trying hard not to complain but bot lane is a mess right now and it's only "fun" because sometimes you get lucky and it feels good.

Karma is sitting at a 46.67% winrate in mid and a 44.04% winrate in the support role. She was hit way too hard hard in this patch and please do not touch her shields. She need a lot of work Meddler and bandaid fixes are not going to cut it this time. Karma ideas you guys can talk about:

1. A massive kit adjustment that finally puts Karma in a place where she can have an identity in this game. Something the game does not have right now, Meddler, is a battlemage support hybrid. Karma has thee different kits on one champion. She needs to go back to her roots like the good old days. All of her abilities had an interaction with allies but still allowed Karma to stand on her own. Let's take this a step further and force Karma to choose between having to protect allies or put herself in the front-lines, like a battlemage is supposed to do. If Karma wants to do damage with her Mantra E she can cast it on herself to make it shield bomb. If Karma wants to protect her allies and help them escape from danger, she can cast the current Mantra E on an ally. You can make her current kit have more skill expression while forcing her to choose between protecting an ally or being a damage dealer.

2. There is a lot of skill expression that can be done with Karma's basic and Mantra abilities that really separates her from other champions. I really liked her old Mantra system, but the Mantra abilities had to be a specific way to compensate for that. I always wondered what Karma would be like if she had the ability to combo different Mantra together to create new effects. Using Mantra E on an ally and then using Mantra Q to hit them explodes the shield around the ally to hit enemies. Using Mantra E on an ally with Mantra W mitigates a portion of the damage to Karma and heals the ally. Using Mantra Q on top of an enemy in Mantra W increases the damage of Mantra Q. I mean the possibilities and creativity is limitless. Let's face it, Karma's current Mantra system is just a watered down version of Heim's.

I really wish she would receive a Aatrox, Fiora, Shen or GP level rework because I think she can benefit more from that than an actual kit adjustment. Her splash arts are already done and fully conceptualized. Karma just suffers from a lot of missed opportunities and poorly executed kit and art assets. She can be this amazing champion that offers something unique and great to the game, if she is just given the time she was supposed to receive 5 years ago. I have high hopes you guys will deliver something amazing on her, but there is always that nagging feeling in the back of my head that thinks it is just not going to be enough. Simply bringing back shield bomb, which is what I think is going to be the only thing worked on for her, is not going to fix the massive amount of problems wrong with this champion. She is in no way shape or form modernized in today's standards and she was almost used as a lab rat for future updates and VGU. It's a shame that one champion has to suffer for so many years without anything being done on her, but this is just how you guys do things.

Don't you think Rageblade should be a lategame item instead of early game spike? I don't want to go back to a world where AS/On-hit champs don't have their "I have hit lategame now" item like mages get deathcap, and marksmen get Infinity Edge.