How do you carry baddies while playing a farming jungler

3lue·Nov 27, 2014·1 votes·853 views

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1646651249/206014383

How do you guys carry baddies that feed (and when you setup kills for them - they cant clean up) as a farming jungler like udyr/yi. I mean there's only so much you can do like steal a couple drags and keep farming because if you gank a 10-0 kalista you'll most likely die...

Let's just say you cant make it to mid or late game cuz the enemies are so fed with most if not all dragons and are at your inhib by the 20 min mark.

31 Comments

DJ Hatsune MikuNov 27, 20143 votes

Smite/tele single player splitpush yi. But seriously if you have more than ~~50 games in this elo and are stuck it's where you are skill wise. You need to get better somewhere. Map awareness, ganking ability, objective control, something~~

3lueNov 27, 20141 votes

Smite/tele single player splitpush yi. But seriously if you have more than ~~50 games in this elo and are stuck it's where you are skill wise. You need to get better somewhere. Map awareness, ganking ability, objective control, something~~

Hey someone that finally comments that is not a smartass. Thank you for your advice. Have an upvote!

redniwediSNov 27, 20141 votes

Just because you're given advice you didn't seem to like doesn't mean the advice giver is a smartass.

MatthevvNov 27, 20142 votes

Sometimes games are just uncarryable. Even top LCS players would lose games in bronze sometimes. You just have to deal with it, stop obsessing over one particular game, and work on improving your own play.

3lueNov 27, 20141 votes

Sometimes games are just uncarryable. Even top LCS players would lose games in bronze sometimes. You just have to deal with it, stop obsessing over one particular game, and work on improving your own play.

Umm, it's Silver, I keep getting these games at least twice in a row or every other game. If it was just one game I would be very happy and would be Gold or Plat and wouldn't be here asking for tips lol :P

MatthevvNov 27, 20142 votes

Then you just need to get better. If you keep getting these "unwinnable" games every other game, then you are at your proper rating and shouldn't be climbing higher anyways. To reference my previous comment, work on improving your own play instead of obsessing over others.

There isn't one magical tip someone on these forums can give you that will make you win those games. There are a plethora of small things you can be doing better. You just are not good enough. I said pro players lose in bronze/silver sometimes, but that is a little misleading, it is more like "rarely".

3lueNov 27, 20141 votes

Then you just need to get better. If you keep getting these "unwinnable" games every other game, then you are at your proper rating and shouldn't be climbing higher anyways. To reference my previous comment, work on improving your own play instead of obsessing over others.

There isn't one magical tip someone on these forums can give you that will make you win those games. There are a plethora of small things you can be doing better. You just are not good enough. I said pro players lose in bronze/silver sometimes, but that is a little misleading, it is more like "rarely".

Yes I should still be climbing, its not my fault that two lanes are already 0-5 by the time I clear red and bluei

MatthevvNov 27, 20142 votes

Using hyperbole does not help your argument. You would still be climbing if you were good and deserved to climb. When I made my smurf account it started in silver 5 due to me playing my placements drunk. I lost 2 games during the climb from silver 5 to gold 5.

If you were good you would not be posting on the boards complaining about teammates.

3lueNov 27, 20141 votes

Using hyperbole does not help your argument. You would still be climbing if you were good and deserved to climb. When I made my smurf account it started in silver 5 due to me playing my placements drunk. I lost 2 games from the climb of silver 5 to gold 5.

If you were good you would not be posting on the boards complaining about teammates.

I am good. I just get horrible and toxic teammates. If you lose lane by yourself you're just bad. Having a jungler is a privilege they dont have to gank. A person should not feed. I really think if I got decent teams id be Plat. On this account I get utter shit teammates that bitch and complain. So Itested if i would get similar teams on my sub account and it turns out, out of the 50 games I played on it, only about 3/4 games did I get uncooperative assholes. And it shows too. On that account im bout to hit Gold, while this account is sitting in S3. So yes, having good or even decent teammates that DO NOT FEED is definitely a HUGE factor. Stop denying that u PoS im a gold level player at the least I domt really need to improve unless I wanna hit plat or something. I have every right to complain about noobs who are u to tell me imddoing it cuz im bad? Im fkn good and I can diss as many nibs as I want.

redniwediSNov 27, 20141 votes

That is a horrible, horrible mindset... Your team members are of similar ranking to your enemies, and your enemies have a similar rank to you. If they are "utter shit" what does that say when you get matched with them?

No I'm not insulting you, I'm just pointing out that your viewpoint here is horribly flawed.

3lueNov 27, 20141 votes

That is a horrible, horrible mindset... Your team members are of similar ranking to your enemies, and your enemies have a similar rank to you. If they are "utter shit" what does that say when you get matched with them?

No I'm not insulting you, I'm just pointing out that your viewpoint here is horribly flawed.

Then why do I get badass teams on another account all the time? Because I'm a fkn beast and deserve decent teammates

redniwediSNov 27, 20141 votes

That's not at all how it works... Just work on having a more positive view of your team (even the bad ones) and you'll do better. If you're as good as you say you are this is literally all you have to do, if not please refer to one of my other posts here.

MatthevvNov 27, 20142 votes

Do you even know basic fractions? 3/4 of your games having uncooperative people is the majority of your games.

On that account im bout to hit Gold im a gold level player at the least

So you are saying you are not gold on either account? How do you honestly figure that you are a gold level player if you can't get gold on two separate accounts?

I really think if I got decent teams id be Plat.

Yea, you would need a lot of teams to carry you if you were ever to get even remotely close to plat. Honestly you sound like a very negative person and you probably rage at teammates in game. Your attitude is something you can improve that will help you get better at the game.

If at any point you are ever stuck in silver, you are not a plat level player, not even close.

3lueNov 27, 20141 votes

Do you even know basic fractions? 3/4 of your games having uncooperative people is the majority of your games.

On that account im bout to hit Gold im a gold level player at the least

So you are saying you are not gold on either account? How do you honestly figure that you are a gold level player if you can't get gold on two separate accounts?

I really think if I got decent teams id be Plat.

Yea, you would need a lot of teams to carry you if you were ever to get even remotely close to plat. Honestly you sound like a very negative person and you probably rage at teammates in game. Your attitude is something you can improve that will help you get better at the game.

If at any point you are ever stuck in silver, you are not a plat level player, not even close.

Said 3 or 4 but ur a mindless fk so u couldnt have thought of that as possibility

3lueNov 27, 20141 votes

Do you even know basic fractions? 3/4 of your games having uncooperative people is the majority of your games.

On that account im bout to hit Gold im a gold level player at the least

So you are saying you are not gold on either account? How do you honestly figure that you are a gold level player if you can't get gold on two separate accounts?

I really think if I got decent teams id be Plat.

Yea, you would need a lot of teams to carry you if you were ever to get even remotely close to plat. Honestly you sound like a very negative person and you probably rage at teammates in game. Your attitude is something you can improve that will help you get better at the game.

If at any point you are ever stuck in silver, you are not a plat level player, not even close.

Said 3 or 4 but ur a mindless fk so u couldnt have thought of that as possibility

I can get to Gold easily, at current rate ill be Gold 3 by Sunday on that account. But u, u maam must be mad that ur staying bronze

redniwediSNov 27, 20142 votes

It's comments like this one that give people a very low opinion of you. While there are ragers and trolls at all levels of the game it's been proven that positive thinking leads to faster rank climbing. Try taking criticism in a constructive way instead of using insults, even if the criticism is not particularly helpful.

3lueNov 27, 20141 votes

Do you even know basic fractions? 3/4 of your games having uncooperative people is the majority of your games.

On that account im bout to hit Gold im a gold level player at the least

So you are saying you are not gold on either account? How do you honestly figure that you are a gold level player if you can't get gold on two separate accounts?

I really think if I got decent teams id be Plat.

Yea, you would need a lot of teams to carry you if you were ever to get even remotely close to plat. Honestly you sound like a very negative person and you probably rage at teammates in game. Your attitude is something you can improve that will help you get better at the game.

If at any point you are ever stuck in silver, you are not a plat level player, not even close.

Said 3 or 4 but ur a mindless fk so u couldnt have thought of that as possibility

Do you even know basic fractions? 3/4 of your games having uncooperative people is the majority of your games.

On that account im bout to hit Gold im a gold level player at the least

So you are saying you are not gold on either account? How do you honestly figure that you are a gold level player if you can't get gold on two separate accounts?

I really think if I got decent teams id be Plat.

Yea, you would need a lot of teams to carry you if you were ever to get even remotely close to plat. Honestly you sound like a very negative person and you probably rage at teammates in game. Your attitude is something you can improve that will help you get better at the game.

If at any point you are ever stuck in silver, you are not a plat level player, not even close.

I'll be a diamond player within 72 hrs thats how damn good I am, at least compared to u. Rek u 1v1 ne time ne day damn scrub sdfu

MatthevvNov 27, 20142 votes

I'll be a diamond player within 72 hrs thats how damn good I am, at least compared to u. Rek u 1v1 ne time ne day damn scrub sdfu

lol

redniwediSNov 27, 20141 votes

With comments like that I'm surprised you made it to silver...

Seriously, learn to respect people you don't know.

3lueNov 27, 20141 votes

With comments like that I'm surprised you made it to silver...

Seriously, learn to respect people you don't know.

Again I deserve to be silver or gold im just that good. And smart asses like u and that other idiot don't deserve respect and therefore yall are stupid to ask for it

redniwediSNov 27, 20141 votes

You don't "deserve" anything. You earn your rank through hard work alone, and if you don't realize that you'll be "stuck" where you are.

3lueNov 27, 20141 votes

You don't "deserve" anything. You earn your rank through hard work alone, and if you don't realize that you'll be "stuck" where you are.

I have earned being Gold. All i said was its hard to get any further with these shit teammates. I'll climb again once i get decent ones, simple as that. I put in so much work and carry these teams that are heavy af.

redniwediSNov 27, 20142 votes

If you're already good enough to carry these people who are of similar ranking to you why are you on here asking for tips?

3lueNov 28, 20141 votes

If you're already good enough to carry these people who are of similar ranking to you why are you on here asking for tips?

why are you on here only to bitch about what ppl are asking/complaining about. mind ur own business if ur gna be a lil b about it dawg and gdfo

redniwediSNov 28, 20141 votes

You can't possibly expect people to mind their own business when you post on an open forum...

You'll learn how to not be an ass eventually, but until then have fun with your unusually large ego.

redniwediSNov 27, 20141 votes

Here's a question for you, does it matter if it's your fault or not?

If you answered yes we cannot help you. If you answered no then you have to ask one more question, was it your allies fault or the enemies fault?

The latter question does actually matter, if your allies are simply feeding they will be able to come back late game, so your goal should be to help defend objectives instead of push enemy objectives down. Get your allies to farm safely on their side of the map and get your own items as fast as you can, but make sure they are ready to defend/take dragon.

If the enemy is outplaying them you have a very different problem. Your allies might have had a chance before the first kill happened, but their opponents are snowballing. Help your allies push objectives down as fast as you can and rush the team fight phase. Once your team is grouping continue farming and holding lanes that your team are not actively pushing, and make sure your team does not engage while you are not near. You want your team to siege so remind them to have wards around so they do not get flanked.

The enemy team will likely have a split pusher who has to be stopped, so be ready to run to defend your inhibitor towers. Unless the team fights are going well your 0-5 ally should not be trusted in handling the split pusher, it's your duty now.

3lueNov 27, 20141 votes

Here's a question for you, does it matter if it's your fault or not?

If you answered yes we cannot help you. If you answered no then you have to ask one more question, was it your allies fault or the enemies fault?

The latter question does actually matter, if your allies are simply feeding they will be able to come back late game, so your goal should be to help defend objectives instead of push enemy objectives down. Get your allies to farm safely on their side of the map and get your own items as fast as you can, but make sure they are ready to defend/take dragon.

If the enemy is outplaying them you have a very different problem. Your allies might have had a chance before the first kill happened, but their opponents are snowballing. Help your allies push objectives down as fast as you can and rush the team fight phase. Once your team is grouping continue farming and holding lanes that your team are not actively pushing, and make sure your team does not engage while you are not near. You want your team to siege so remind them to have wards around so they do not get flanked.

The enemy team will likely have a split pusher who has to be stopped, so be ready to run to defend your inhibitor towers. Unless the team fights are going well your 0-5 ally should not be trusted in handling the split pusher, it's your duty now.

People dont listen in silver, im basically 1v5ing all the time

redniwediSNov 27, 20141 votes

That is a false statement. I'm silver 2 and typically play with teams who listen. There are always outliers, but unless it's just an MMR difference you should be matched with relatively similar teams to what I'm matched with.

As an extra question when you communicate with your team do you use generally positive language?

TeemoJenkinsNov 27, 20141 votes

Late game team comp that /ff'd - How do you carry when you surrender?

MoussetracksNov 28, 20141 votes

I find the problem with farm junglers, at least with me; the enemy jungler is almost always a GANK jungler. Said junglers only purpose is to snowball the fuck out of their lanes. You have to be aware of this, and sometimes, you might have to put your farm behind to keep your lanes even. Even if YOU get ahead, you cannot 1v5 their team if they are fed.

If the enemy jungler is a shaco, you cannot just farm all game; you're lanes WILL be camped, and someone WILL snowball. Will that jungler fall off late game compared to an Udyr? Yes, but his fed team will more than make up for it.

'Well they should play safe and wait for my late game'. Perhaps, but this is a team game. You should clear it with your team first to make sure they understand and agree that they are WAITING for your late game, and have a comp built around that. Even if they ward, they can get ganked. Some junglers are REALLY hard to ward against! Do you know how many wards it takes to completely defend against a Vi jungle? Like 5, and once she hits six, its pretty much a 100% chance to get a kill if her ult is up.