Counter Jungling?

Earthpine·8/31/2015, 6:19:34 PM·1 votes·605 views

I was thinking about the item item 3711 and how I never use it since I'm to worried that the enemy jungler might be able to defeat me or his team coming to help when I try to counter jungle. Of course the counter is having good map awareness, but I'm to afraid of just being beaten up by the jungler :/ Any useful champions for counter jungling? I would like to try to use Poacher's Knife but I have no reason to. My junglers are Chogath Elise Khazix Nidalee Nocturne Rammus RekSai Rengar Shyvana and Skarner . Obviously someone like Rammus can't counter jungle but the others? I would like some help please ^^

9 Comments

Miror B8/31/2015, 6:50:12 PM1 votes

While any jungler can be a good counter one (as a few well placed wards can ease prediction), Kha post-lv6's counter jungling is pretty insane due to how many things he has for it. His Q does tons of damage to isolated targets even after the nerfs, and his ability to come in to the enemy jungle nearly-undetected makes warding against him kinda difficult.

Sona Ping9/1/2015, 1:53:06 AM1 votes

The things is there are two real problems with Poacher's Knife. The first is that after they finished tweaking benefits and shipped all the items to live, the others are just flat out better. They have distinct benefits while Poacher's only works in the enemy jungle and further, the others work for counter-jungling as well. (There's also that it telegraphs your intentions which some consider important, so you can count that as Problem 3, if you want). The other problem is that counter-jungling isn't a strategy, or at least not in any time recent. Counter-jungling is an opportunistic action, something done when the jungler can do it, and frequently, when there isn't something better to be doing. It's not really a strategy, not like how farming a devourer or simply item 3706 ganking is.

blkKalameet9/3/2015, 4:20:53 PM1 votes

Only ever take potchers knife if you want to play nunu and just take away There jungle.

Build sightstone, mo-boots, deadmans plate, and if you want to be super safe pick up twin shadows too.

Clear out as much of there jungle when you can, making sure to ward it up nicely. Make sure you clear your jungle too so they cant just switch with you.

You will be taking so much farm from them they will fall off in power, and the wards will help your lanes avoid them so they cant catch up with kills. Keep building tank and and utility and be sure to help lanes when you can.