I Never Get A Kill During Ganks

Earthpine·Jun 12, 2015·1 votes·1,162 views

Whenever I gank a lane, I make sure that the enemy is more than half way across the lane, has at most 3/4 HP and has used their escape spells (if they have any). But when I actually gank the lane they always escape, they don't burn summoners and I don't kill the other laner if it's bot lane.

How do I make sure that I will help my team when I gank? I have done some successful ganks before but they're becoming less and less common now. I used to main jungle in s4 but now I stay as far away as possible from it as I'll probably fail my ganks and have no assists. I don't mind if my teammates get the kill, I just actually want the enemy to die.

I used to play Elise in the jungle, but now whenever I play her jungle we get stomped. Now I play whoever my team needs the most in the jungle. I normally choose from Rek'Sai, Jax or Kha'Zix.

12 Comments

Sanguine LawJun 13, 20152 votes

A good idea is to not use your gap closer/cc straight away. It's a noob trap to say, run into lane as J4 then E-Q-W because now if you dont immediately burst them down, they're probably going to flash back to safety. If you're patient, you should just walk up to them as J4, W to slow them, then if they burn a flash you E-Q and they're up in the air with nothing left. Also if youre ganking with a melee champ, make sure you auto the laner, move ahead of them, auto, repeat.

It's not a guaranteed way to get a kill ,but it is pretty effective, and certainly more effective than just walking in. Also, if you can manage it, gank from behind, not from the brush. Unless it's Katarina/Talon or someone who can insta jump behind you, it's always a better option.

EarthpineJun 13, 20151 votes

I tried this in a game just now, thanks for the tip! It helped me turn a losing game :D I was playing Kha'Zix and went to help bot and got a double. I'll practice this more to help get more kills and assists, ty!

TurquoiseYoshiJun 13, 20151 votes

Make sure the laner knows what you're doing. Otherwise that gank ain't working. Also make sure your laner has decent health in case the opposing jungler is nearby.

KawaYi SenpaiJun 13, 20151 votes

item 3364 upgrade your wards, they will back of mostly if they spot you ganking

LuggJun 13, 20151 votes

Elise is not really viable right now. Rek'Sai may be the strongest jungler right now, she is at least in the top 3. If you want to have effective ganks, make sure you choose a jungler with some easy to land CC. Vi, WW, Maokai all have point and click CC that will lock down the opponent.

As for actually ganking, make sure you use a pink ward or sweeper on the bush you will be ganking from. That way you will know if the have a ward there and not to waste your time. Also make sure your teammate has health AND mana otherwise you are going to probably be doing a 1v1 or 2v1 bot and that isn't good. If you get a flash or other summoner used by the enemy, it's a successful gank. Just go back to the jungle, clear a camp, and then come back and you can probably get a kill.

EarthpineJun 13, 20151 votes

I play Elise a lot, enough to consider her as my main, so I wouldn't say she isn't viable, but not in a very good position for the meta right now. I used to do great on Rek'Sai but after the nerfs I can't play her at all unless I go full tank with one AD item. I do need to practice on noticing my teammates HP and mana, but when I do make the enemy burn a summoner and I come back they're pushed in and I can't gank. I have Warwick but I don't really like him much. I don't have Vi or Maokai and I don't think I'll be getting them soon.

LuggJun 14, 20151 votes

Elise is playable but not viable. The difference is, yes you can win on her, but why would you take her over ANY other jungler who can do the job better. Warwick is ok, he just can't gank effectively until level 6 which can really set your team behind for pressure. He does have amazing sustain and really never has to leave the jungle until he is 6 though.

Amumu, Master Yi, and Nunu are all great junglers who are really cheap to buy.

EarthpineJun 14, 20151 votes

The thing is, is that Amumu, Master Yi and Nunu don't really appeal to me and I find them boring and I can't play them very well. Elise is playable, yes, and can be good in this meta. I just don't play her as a tank and I usually play Kha'Zix in the jungle over everyone else. Warwick seems a bit boring, just farm until 6 and then gank and carry on farming until your ultimate comes back again.

LuggJun 14, 20151 votes

K6 is a pretty good jungler. If you like him, play him.

If you are really good with Elise, you can play her and be successful. Some of the underpowered champs do quite well since people aren't used to seeing them and don't know how to counter them as well.

Makior72Jun 13, 20151 votes

Also keep in mi d WHO you are ganking vs who you use as a jungle. generally speaking i never gank leblanc or katarina because it is extremely easy for them to escape.

I mostly use volibear in the jungle mainly because his early game ganks are easy unless your team shoves really hard. Trick with volibear is to walk in from behind them using no skills. Auto them amd use your roar to slow them, they usually flash after the roar out of panic. At this point you Q and flip them back towards your own tower and should now have 3 stacks of frenzy for an execute.

Bonus: as long as the enemy laner does not have ignite you can gank even at 35% or so hp if you are careful due to your passive.

I dont use your specific champs so i cant really offer much for them sorry.

EarthpineJun 13, 20151 votes

I quite like Volibear, but I don't own him unfortunately. I don't often gank super mobile champions unless I know for sure they can't escape with their abilities. It's alright, you helped me by suggesting Volibear ^^