What do do as AP mid vs full-AD enemies?

Reynard the ƒox·12/4/2014, 7:08:51 AM·1 votes·3,734 views

Say I'm Orianna or Syndra against a team with no major source of Magic Damage. Do I still rush Athene's? Or do I just get Chalice and then complete another item? Or something else altogether?

halp pls

13 Comments

The Chin12/5/2014, 1:42:08 AM4 votes

item 3165 is a good alternative to item 3174

City of Toronto12/4/2014, 7:16:45 AM1 votes

Morello, or double dorans into zhonyas.

EndlessSorcerer12/4/2014, 7:30:18 AM1 votes

My typical build order as a mage against AD teams is something like Tear of the Goddess -> Zhonya's Hourglass -> Archangels Staff -> Void Staff. This build gives a nice balance of mana, CDR, survivability (shield, armor, stasis), and damage.

To compensate for the lost CDR, I use the following runes: AP Quints Armor Seals Scaling CDR Glyphs Hybrid Pen Marks

TheFallenShaw12/4/2014, 1:16:00 PM1 votes

item 3075 in place of one item of your build on each of your team. This cripples the enemy AD team. Since most ads rely on AA. Its also the reason you never want to be on a Full AD team.

ayychuu12/4/2014, 11:50:27 PM1 votes

rush seekers if they seem like they are going to be a problem but in lobby you should have armor yellows.

FHMarshy12/5/2014, 4:23:27 PM1 votes

item 3157 + item 3023

It Is I Emoto12/6/2014, 7:53:56 PM1 votes

I usually get athenes if I'm against a AP caster too, the additional MR gets useless if you're laning against a ad caster in this case it's better to rush a tear or a morellos, both help you alot!

Hirok012/7/2014, 11:44:06 AM1 votes

If I am on a high burst (at low level) champ, or if the enemy ad mid is not something horrifying to face (yas/zed/admorg/etc), or in otherwords, you can avoid most of their damage most of the time with no effort at all, then item 3165 . Most of the time tho, I like item 3020 item 3028 item 3089 first, but if I can't really avoid poke or I am doing bad I will grab item 3145 before cap. If you can hold out a losing battle and stay in lane longer, you gain exp/gold advatage that can turn around the fight later.

Definitely core against all ad enemy team: item 3157 and another armor item if you require getting close enough for them to hit you back.

Onegarion12/4/2014, 7:10:00 AM1 votes

YOu get morello's instead. A better item cost efficiency speaking.

iluvalar12/7/2014, 4:57:03 PM1 votes

item 3075 item 3110 item 3083 item 3151 item 3143

The game is balanced so the armor only block half of the damage. That's the spot where the armor is somewhat valuable and worth buying in reasonnable quantity for everyone.

If instead 100% of your damage is AD then, armor is just plain OP and you should not even bother about having a build. Just buy the op armors...