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Starting to learn Midlane need help!

FrostyDog··2 votes·1,837 views

Hi! Recently I have been approaching level 30 (I'm 25), my friends and I are going to form a ranked team soon and they all want me to play midlane because 9 games out of ten i usually out CS (and have most gold ;D) everyone on both teams, i have even had 193 CS at 20 minutes (my average is 160ish by then). However I really am lost as how to play mid, I normally play top lane with a mix of Rumble , Gnar , Nasus and the occasional miscellaneous champion. I'll even play ADC from time to time I do well on Lucian , Corki , and Tristana (even sometimes KogMaw ) although I am not so spectacular in the duo lanes. So I was wondering what champs I should learn that will benefit me in the long run, and even act as gateways to other champions with ease. I have heard a lot about Annie and played her for awhile, I found her a little too easy and want to find someone with a higher skill cap, I am trying Azir but have been having a hard time (Ill ask for advice on another post). Please send recommendations, I do preferred ranged champs but I do enjoy a Zed game from time to time! IP or RP is not a problem btw!

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Ionian1 votes

^ Read my name

FrostyDog1 votes

I got Ahri and have already put several games into her although I can't say that I won them all! I got close to a Penta in one! I had a quadra the last guy was recalling and got away :(

Ionian1 votes

If you want a champion that is safe and good in every type of team, go AhriAzir . If you want a champion that can win every lane go Yasuo. If you want to get fed early and end fast go Zed Leblanc .

FrostyDog1 votes

I may give Zed more practice, but isn't he really over played. He'll be awesome to learn.

Edgar Allan Poe1 votes

Ahri and Yasuo are good if you want to put the time into them. Yasuo is a little more risky but is really good in certain comps. You could even go with Ziggs

FrostyDog1 votes

I'll try Ziggs and Yasuo, I don't really know too much on Ziggs, mainly his role. Is he team fight based? His moves seem to appear like they could work that way.

Blu3 Blood Blues1 votes

from a diamond player play easy champions so you learn like annie, kayle, ori,viktor, ahri , ziggs . priority to kayle and ori then annie ahri ziggs. these champs will help you learn without stunting you like harder champs like zed and yasuo will. Also if you out farm everyone you should just play late game adc's and play adc because all an adc has to do is be really good at farming in 5's

FrostyDog1 votes

I'll look into Ziggs, he was mentioned by you and one other that probably means something xD

FuryofThornsRedo1 votes

I have observed almost all champions defend and play middle lane. Rather than try to Champion specific the Lane to one specified Champion, I would maybe make sure to include tactics, strategies, and build maneuvers and skills as to knowing more the lane, watching the map, timing the wards for sneak attacks, from which side.

Comparison from top lane and bottom lane would include how your are protect on one side as there is a wall at either the top or bottom lane. So and ganks you already coming at you from right at top, and left from bottom ~ via the jungle and River routes.

I am aware of varying the strength in a line up for baseball, and can see a similar compliment from your friends in reference to strength you bring to you game, if your teammates are wanting you to main Middle Lane. They know your strengths. If you are intending to build into rank play, then I would suggest that you and your friends take some time to play the role "In Real Life" as Scouts and conduct Reconnaissance reports for yourselves. Scout the competition, might be the actual ones, but in building some level of scouting reports, you might have a better idea how you might want to build your Middle Lane skills as in knowing you might be a tune close ready in countering the Middle Lane knowing a base idea of which Champions usually are relied on in rank play in the Middle Lane. Also of course include the other lanes for your Scouting report from Spectating your science hypothesis for Game Play calculations and conclusions for all of your team to build from. Could quite possibly help to determine a Champion you might Middle Lane with either suggested or not, but you will have more Ownership of the Middle Lane when trying to learn all of the strengths and weaknesses.

I mention this, because varied from top and bottom lanes, the enemy has 6 inlets and outlets to gank you in the very heart middle of Middle Lane, not to mention the turret zones of attacks. But, the middle lane is vulnerable with ANY champion. I am sure there were games with the best Ahri Ziggs and Yasuo . However, if you are far from in tune with Middle Lane Responsibility, Ownership, Control, and Alert Awareness of you Gank areas around you, no matter how strong you can Champion a Champion, you could end up with a Defeat.

Good Luck! This is only a suggestion! More important have fun!!! Game On! From: FuryofThornsRedo

FrostyDog2 votes

Thanks for the advice, that helps a lot with learning the midlane. I find roaming difficult to do though because I am afraid to lose turrets or be caught out by their jungle whilst roaming, this means I should probably play on more Mobile Champions to help teach me how to use the roam and help in ganks. Map awareness is quite difficult, because I find it also fairly difficult to buy wards when I am so close to say a Rabadons or Zhonyas for instance, I am sure judging of what to buy comes with experience!

FuryofThornsRedo1 votes

You are welcome! I am aware of in sports of those memories of the best coaches I have been under their direction, of their honest level of assessment of their teammates. One even was needing to make sure he was as honest with his daughter on the team and as fair with everyone else.

Sure they could have lopsided the batting order, but then the level of honesty to spread the strength through out his team was important. Knowing the level of honest attention to identifying the strengths and weaknesses of the team was more than an asset in time rather than a skill or area of attention needing to be addressed. The team was quite successful.

I mention this since there are times when some people could maybe in time have spent hours spectating your games for your team as they have scouted you as well. So, maybe then note to the intense determined strength of your team and the capacity to prepare with the word versatile. I am aware they are mentioning for you to be the middle lane'r. Could quite possibly happen in time where the match of your skills might be better at a top lane maybe.

Might be advantageous for your team to experience a series of games maybe 5 or up to 10 or 20 or 24 for two dozen, while Championing an enemy Champion normally not your Main Champions List. I am not too sure of the series amount, but what would be important would be for your team to know the very experience of knowing how to manage every lane on the map, whether in a win or loss as well as knowing the jungle.

The stronger your team is with knowing more or all of the aspects of the game the better. How? Such as in building strengths takes time. I might then take the time to play those enemy Champions which bring you the most difficulty, or are at time the most annoying for your skill ability individually, and as a team. Learn the strength and weaknesses of those Champions would only make you stronger with your favorites.

How, when this takes time? Take some time learning for the first time those Champions and maybe even in the Bots Games, where you could play with two bonuses for you to gain: <> In the bot games {I suggest both beginner and intermediate, only so you are in tune with the range of the abilities is the reason for a few games maybe or maybe not} {Not to down play, but in the beginner games there is the possibility of seeing the blue laser zone for you abilities, if this does not go away as you level higher} {If not the Bot Games, then know the range of the new Champion you are trying to take a time to learn a level of their strength and weaknesses} <> In the Bot games, your teammates could take some time in the various lanes they normally do not play in. ~~ But, also they too will have to play a game where there are relied on to build up their strengths as best they can to help defend the Victory they see in your abilities. This level of empathy in time would only Develop to be a stronger Asset and Strength Defining the Level of Mastery and Versatility for your Team; Thus Defining how far you team will Achieve Success with your: <> <>Team Work <> <> Positive Attitude <> <> Attention to Team Morale <> <> Team Cohesion <> <> Team Aptitude <> <> Team Responsibility ~ In reference to Map Awareness and Map Alertness in Times of Defense <> <> Team Accountability ~ Try to allow there to be no excuse for downgrading the importance of Upgrading Warding Items

The way in which the weighs of actions and behaviors of your team is defined and determined from in game decisions will continue to build and maybe even illustrate the spikes in a visual of volume sound control. In paying honest attention to your team and maybe at times what other successful teams do or not, might help to. <> <> <> Never STOP learning, tuning, and sharpening your Scouting Skills! <> <> <> Try to protect from the level of the opposing teams merit or achievements to ever blind or block your honest truth factual eye sight {because they are a professional level, try to never make excuses of or for your actions and behaviors inside of the game} <> <> <> Be honest and truthful for yourself, and for your team as all you should. Since the better times to accept even the most painful amounts of honesty or truth only Strengthens you and your team, might very well occur closer to the time frame of the Defeat experienced. <> <> <> While, also fine tuning your listening skills which will enhance the times of lessons of Defeats with more of a tuned awareness to the areas of attention, specifically, rather than be like everyone else and Blame the Defeat on the position alone. The Listening skills inside of Defeats and Victories is valuable to aid and own.

Be your own team defined and decided from how you want your team to be.

Might learn lessons from other teams, but try to never become over-casual with learning from other teams, since there could be a time when they are showcasing a maneuver or teamwork strategy only to build up incorrect results from improper growth in the process of their game time strategies. However, there could be a time when what you observed might have be altered in such a way as to mis-attend the correct learning process in which to actually gain the team maneuver your team might want to in time deliver inside of a game.


~~ One of my coaches too the time throughout more than one softball practice, took the time to make sure every one on the team wore the Catchers Equipment, which, most of my teammates despised or were grateful to never wear. All of them had to learn of the difficulty of "gunning" an Out from home plate all the length from their effort of an accurate throw from home plate to to second base. The result of these practices in a weeks time then, increased the level of truth, which, was more consumed and absorbed inside of their game, their brains, and frames of minds. Wonderful lesson in empathy. All of us had to learn the components or concepts of every single position on the Baseball/Softball Diamond. Miraculously, the level of Team Morale build up somewhat higher in endurance, while also defeating the negative blames, negative team morale support, and in game social bullying negatively from fellow teammates in Softball. (c)

No! In high School, I was never a Captain. No! When I had to stand Strong with my Ethics in a senior sport. I was Courageous with the Confidence I was unaware of ever wearing before, a level of fear. I was capable of telling my coach why I would no longer finish the season being coached from them on the court they claimed to coach with professional high school attentiveness and actually care for the safety of ALL of their Teammates, and had to tell them off or tell them into a place. I listened to my counselor and apologized in how the meeting between us sounded. But, never would I be sorry ever for the reasons, facts, specifics, and too many comparisons of why I was right in owning all of what I shared in the meeting right after the game. I specifically, clarified my apology, and told them the apology was only because my counselor thought you deserved to hear a sorry. Told the coach, my sorry to you means nothing to me because I know I am right, and I have no reason to ever doubt how upset you could ever be if this same lack of consideration was dumped and a treatment you had to ever learn to live with, and walked out of their office. The coach owned then zero ounces in Empathy. The coach robbed me of a Varsity Letter, since I ended the sport in the middle of the season. This story is somewhere buried in my boards profile. (c)

I look forward each day to the person I continue to know who, and how I am. Before I ever allow any person or team to try and own any reign of control in also trying to own the very reigns of control of the very essence of the Human Being Only I could Ever be in tune with my instincts to Ever know Fully Who and How I am! (c)


In my story, I was almost left behind at a visitors school in another county after a game, and after I was hurt in the game. Never leave any of your teammates behind in despair on Summoner's Rift; even when along the tones, tunes, sounds, and out-of-bounds bantering from Sportsmanlike Game Conduct!

Thank you for this subject discussion. I took the time to go further in amount of game quality distance. Forgive the length, if unpleasant. Excited for you and your team, and wish your team all the best in Success! 20th Thursday August 2015 From: FuryofThornsRedo

boosted frog1 votes

I recommend Viktor, Yasuo and TwistedFate.

Viktor scales amazingly into late game and you can get a ton of CS with his augment laser. He's a bursty champion that can easily catch up when behind. His laser can easily clear waves while your turret is being sieged, and his W is amazing for zoning, especially in team fights. Again, its all about the communication (assuming you're mainly going to play ranked teams). You can W and block out an enemy who mispositioned and tell your team to engage on the rest, etc.

Because your doing ranked team, I also recommend TF. TF is a very good champion when playing ranked team and solo Q (if you have somewhat good communication when doing your ult). Your gold card makes it easy for your jungler to come gank you, your ult gives you map control for the team (top lane's TP with TF's ult is really nice to have in a team comp).

Yasuo is a nice champion in when in certain comps. If your friends have wukong, sion, malphite, etc you can easily change the tide of the teamfight. When my friend and I duo q in normals (I was wukong top he was yasuo mid) regardless if we win lane or not, we can communicate to each other to come to the other lane and help out via Wusuo ult, etc. Its a near perfect combination. During teamfights (recommend the Wukong to have flash and teleport) the wusuo combo is an amazing engager. Paired with Nami support, its an amazing comp to have. With communication you can win many fights as Wusuo (or just yasuo + any other knock up champion that your friend likes to play, but wukong is the best champion to pair yasuo up with)

FrostyDog1 votes

I do love a good Viktor game but I am fairly sure he is going to get nerfed to ruins sometime soon, Twisted Fate is not my favorite Champion I can do they yellow card tricks and stuff but still I am not overly fond of him. Yasuo is recommended a lot too but he seems really hard to play.

Hollabakatchya1 votes

I would start with simple champs than progress to more complex ones, just like any other lane. Annie or Talon are both great picks and very strong currently. Azir, Zed, and Yasuo are all fun and very strong as well, but the skill required to use them well would be disproportionatly large to how much time you would spend learning them, so I would hold off on them until you can win lane 90% of the time with more simple champs.

Keep in mind that your role as a mid laner is to roam and help out other lanes, so you should not only be proficient using your champ in mid but also setting up effective ganks as well.

supermuffin281 votes

Ahri really good, charm for picks and cc, 3 dashes for safety, safe lane, easy cs, good aa animation. high burst. Deletes carries late game and she's currently getting buffed on pbe.

FrostyDog1 votes

Yeah I hear about her buffs, Ahri is great for me its just a matter of learning to use her properly in early game and positioning properly in "team fights"

supermuffin281 votes

My personal opinion, majority of her power lies in her ult and w, both of which aren't skill shots. Generally if you hit 6 and have ignite while poking them to roughly half or so, it's pretty much a guaranteed kill or flash minimum. You can land Q and E for safe measures or to finish them but it's usually not needed.

psychogames1 votes

learn moakai mid adjust your runes to defend against your lane oppenant usually maxing mr runes to 75 scaling and none of them can usually touch you while you just farm qe tank like you would gnar. until you get use to the lane comp and can work other characters into your style play. Swain would be a good one with common rumble build.

4ManVotedAgainst1 votes

All you have to do is main Diana then proceed to crush everything (except maybe Mordekaiser ).

CasterGilgamesh1 votes

try Talon pick you W first max it first but always try to make his Q have decent points into it max E last and ult whenever you can.you start off with item 2041 1 item 2003 and 2 item 2004 if you have an opponet that you know cant poke you too hard like annother melee if its a range poke champion get 2 health pots and one mana pot. for wave clear get item 3074 then build item 3142 after those two buy item 3117 then build item 3071 and item 3035 if the other team has a lot of ap and you think they will burst you get item 3156 then get item 3031.farm for most of early game if the lane opponent pokes too much try ganking lanes that have openings. you should be able to beat a lot of other champions.becareful of Diana and maybe Mordekaiser Lissandra .you should have a good chance at beating most mages like Brand Syndra TwistedFate.

Baunjo1 votes

On what he said about building item 3156 this item is only good if you build it for your first item, otherwise you wasted a slot and gold. The reason being is it's shield does not increase as you level, so lategame you have a useless 400 magic damage shield and a passive that doesn't benefit talon in the least.

CasterGilgamesh1 votes

i found it to be really good when i see a team with a lot of ap champions that can burst me but meh i do get it first if i know i need it

Baunjo1 votes

It really isn't about the champion you play, everyone here is going to tell you their cute little wood 7 main. No matter what champion you play, if you are good with them, it will always be superior to someone who is horrible, but playing an " OP " champion.

Understand that Mid lane is the center of the map, everything will happen around you. Therefore, you need to have a very good sense of map awareness. As mid, you have arguably the highest capability to effect top and bot besides the jungler. This is also true of the enemy mid, so always make sure you know where your enemy mid laner is and ping mia religiously.

Also, Don't quote me on this, but I do believe that because the lane is alot shorter minions reach your lane faster than they reach top and bot. Therefore, especially since it sounds like you are good at csing, you will almost always be ahead of the rest of your team in XP. This is exactly why mages and other high skill reliant damage champions are put mid, is they can level up their abilities much faster than the rest of the team, and to great avail.

Lastly, mid is the gateway to the rest of the map. It has the shortest distance between inhibitors, meaning that it will not take a lot to get there if there is not a serious effort made to defend it. Understand that unlike getting bot or top tower, tier 1 mid tower opens up the rest of the enemy jungle. Keep this in mind to try and bottleneck enemy's and try to predict movements.

Good luck!

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