Anybody got any tips or tricks for tank junglers?
My main tank junglers are Malphite, Alistar, Cho'Gath, and Shen.
I am particularly looking to speed up clear times and define a route. Any tips you guys have on ganking would be helpful as well.
ZeroAnarchy1 votesShen and Alistar don't do well in the new jungle, they are better off top and support respectively.
Blue Collar Bear1 votesThat depends on your view point. I didn't question their viability.
I asked how one could make them better.
BeatzBoyFTW1 votes
- Mainly I start with W and start with the blue camp. Then I continue to kill other usual camps til I reached level 3. Usually after 4 camps, I tend to b since I'm low on health. By on that time, I will have to start ganks. Open ganks to those who seems to get pushed back. I max W & Q on 50-50 chance, while maxing E last, or take two points before maxing WQ.
- I really don't recommend taking Alistar jungle, his clear time has been reduced/nerfed intentionally by Riot since they really need to fix Alistar as a support. If I am that stubbornly persistent, I would start with Q, start at blue camp, then do the usual Malphite route. I max Q first, take 2 points in E, and max W last. To master Alistar, you need to master that mini-Malphite ult with the WQ combo.
- Same Malphite route. It's best to stack up your HP stacks by ulting on monsters, instead of saving up for champions. There's a chance you can complete two buffs camps before your first recall, thanks to your passive sustain. I max either E for faster jungle clears, or W for improved CC ganking. I leave Q to max last, since leveling up will only improve the damage, not the CC.
- For this guy, I'm not completely sure. His jungle clears is pretty slow, although almost has great sustain as Warwick. I think for Shen, I would start with either the Krugs or Red buff, since you use energy anyway. Gank a pushed lane whenever if your HP is big enough to resist counter-ganks. I take about 2 points for Q, and max W for bigger shield defense. Of course, max E last. I mean, look at that 100 energy usage omg lol. As a Shen player, ALWAYS be on guard of your allies' HP after level 6 for you to ult.
Pæan1 votes - start Red with a decent leash, then gank mid if possible. Then go to wolves, blue, then gromp.
If your health allows, go gank top or just get scuttle crab and recall for jungle item. Just had an awesome ranked game as jungle Shen. My build is different than a normal shen build, but I had 2k on my first back so I decided to get some damage after sunfire.
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1718631435/41513210?tab=overview
If you really want to, you can go blue, to wolves then red. Recall for purple smite, then go solo drag. Just keep mashing your Q and W so you get the heals and reduced the cd on Ki strike and you can come out of a solo drag at roughly 70% hp, which is enough to gank bot or mid :D
Blue Collar Bear1 votesIt looks like every lane stomped pretty hard in your game, and you had plenty to do with it.
What rune set up do you use? Also, why did you take Warrior? Shen scales extremely hard with attack speed, and Devourer would allow for way more damage.
Pæan1 votesThe runes should be in my matchhistory that i linked. Same with the masteries.
I took warrior because I didnt see myself farming very much for the remainder of that game and I've always kinda hated FeralFlare and it's new little brother xD. I also wanted some more AD for the triforce I bought so I could have more burst.
In a normal game I may have gone Devouror, then a BORK if all things allowed, but I was feeling cocky.
Here is a great guide you can gleen about AD-duelist shen that I've tried a few times. http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/jungle-shen-the-dark-horse-dueling-jungler-404817
Duke Anax1 votesAD for Triforce? Are you aware that spellblades don't scale on item AD? It won't increase your burst beyond the normal auto attack.
Pæan1 votesLol, oops. Not sure what I was thinking there. Thanks for the correction.
Blue Collar Bear1 votesI see. I would have taken attack speed marks and quints. The armor isn't exactly necessary, especially if you take armor seals. With the extra attack speed, you do not need the armor due to the increased sustain from your Q.
Pæan1 votesNormally I would have used this page (see attachment)
But I was thinking I would have to go 100% tank for the entire game so I wanted to get a head start. Attack speed is awesome on Shen, this game was just sort of an odd one as far as shen jungle goes. Lots of new things happened there xD
Duke Anax1 votes The S5 changes really brought him back. 
solves his slow early clear. Then switch to either 
or 
He has enough sustain compared to other junglers, that he always ganks at full health. I've gone so far now to switch to scaling armor flat AP and Hybrid penetration, as well as 21/9/0 masteries, because the jungle just can't hurt him.
He needs to gank at level three and keep ganking, just throw the enemy into tower and nail them down.
Rush 
to gank pushed lanes, or 
for better clear and slow.
Blue Collar Bear1 votesThank you for your input! I play Alistar a lot, and I usually take 21/9 into the jungle as well. However, I take a full mpen page and rush AP.
I have had a lot of success with tank jungling, though. Your Ohmwrecker idea is fabulous!
Duke Anax1 votesI don't like MPen because it is useless in the Jungle itself (monsters have no MR) and early game Alistar does mostly AA damage anyway (high cooldowns)
Blue Collar Bear1 votesYeah. AS runes are good, but it's only good if you're consistently farming in the jungle. I usually just gank for days.
If I didn't take attack speed or mpen, what do you think I should take in marks?
Duke Anax1 votesEither 6 armor pen and 3 AS or 9 Hybrid pen.
That's just enough to get rid of all jungle armor, makes about 10% difference in damage.
Blue Collar Bear1 votesThat's assuming you take Warrior, right?
Duke Anax1 votesEither way really, this is mostly about speeding up clear at the beginning.