Does Aatrox suck now or am I doing it wrong?

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Thanks!

I think so too about any champ being able to get the first item, I've been messing around with this alot lately trying to find new junglers(Ziggs can jungle?!) :)

I'm thinking the main issue was trying to gauge the enemy threat. From fighting in the jungle he has practically no risk as he sustains so well, but when you engage with a champ it's a whole different story. I'd like to give some of this a shot because I really like his design and such, but that last attempt was seriously horrible :D I also feel like he's outshined by alot of other champs right now(Lee can sustain almost as well and is much more helpful in a gank or skirmish), but that could also be largely due to unfamiliarity.

I'm pretty sure every champion in the game can jungle up until their first jungle upgrade with no issues.

I challenge you to jungle Garen (one of the strongest early game champions)

The "Armor Seals Always" isn't against the "Runes shouldn't affect the viability of champions" philosophy you have always had?

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Jungling got a lot harder in 2015 so now it's a tricky place to navigate early on. Things to keep in mind:

Armor Seals always. Make sure you're running combat-relevant quints as well, not things like Move Speed. Start Q to make sure you start with a maxed Blood Well. Make sure to start Krugs or Gromp to get a combat-relevant buff for your first clear. I'm pretty sure every champion in the game can jungle up until their first jungle upgrade with no issues.

Medium-mobility melee champions' biggest difficulty is gauging engagements. If you're not familiar with the types of fights you can take as Aatrox, you end up Q'ing in and then just dying. On top of that, junglers get a little bit less income than laners, so you'll be on average less farmed than your opponents. So I'm not surprised that's been your initial experience.

The final thing to point out is item build. What I see being most successful is one core damage item, either just your jungle enchant, or in addition to the enchant, and then building tanky. This should keep you pretty relevant in terms of damage output, while also allowing you to sit on the front lines pretty well.

Hey Phreak, how about Jungle Aatrox? i mainly play him there, usually the tank route, since he is supposed to /tank. What tips can you give?

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