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Farming Late Game (Mid or ADC)

rtbf47758628·7/7/2015, 4:46:09 AM·1 votes·4,115 views

Ok, so basically here is my situation:

       I get 75-85 cs every 10 minutes for about 20 minutes or so

       I get 100 around 15 minutes, then realize I've fallen a bit behind so I go back to my lane and catch back up. About 140-165 cs by then.

       By that point, everybody storms mid and starts taking all my cs. I know usually they let the ADC and/or Mid laner get the cs by not last hitting it in the higher elo's and LCS matches I watch. But, as stated before, I am in bronze five. Most people are not in high enough elo or pay as much attention as i do to actually do this. So I get a few minions every minute or so. Most people are like "Go into a different lane and farm there."

       But they don't realize this. If I do that, people will follow me, usually not being another support (he's in his own other world). Say, I am Annie, and the person following is Rek'sai (very good co-ordination between these two, I will say). And since most everybody will have Good AoE and Rek'sai at this elo is regularly going full AD (Thanks, Uber) So he can clear the wave way faster than I can. I mean, if I so desperately wanted that farm, I would've used my Q and W spamming all my skills to get it before he does, but not only does this waste mana, I still might only get 6/25 cs or so. And that's only if one person follows me. But on the other side, If nobody follows me, they will just be stupid and not ask for assistance, and then engage without me. I mean, I'm an an Annie, have some common sense. So then they fight a 4v5 and lose, then get mad at me. What do I do there?
   
       The only way I have ever caught up in cs is if i let the enemy push and my team and I are losing. They destroy all 3 inhibitors and then super minions come, where i can farm all 3 lanes very easily since they are all pushed up. I get ahead very easily in farm but since I let them push, they are doing baron while we can't do anything to stop them because if we try then the super minions will push to our nexus and win, and we might not even steal it in the first place.

       Any suggestions? Here is who I usually play

Mid:Annie Lissandra Xerath ---- SOON TO BE STILL NEED PRACTICE: ---> Diana Gragas Katarina Adc:Tristana Jinx Corki

P.S Best team Comp Ever Top Gnar item 3025 item 3143 item 3022 item 3075 item 3083 item 3260 summoner 4 summoner 12 Jungle Diana item 3708 item 3151 item 3027 item 3089 item 3110 summoner 4 summoner 11 Mid Gragas item 3027 item 3089 item 3157 item 3116 item 3075 item 3259 summoner 4 summoner 14 ADCDraven item 3031 item 3035 item 3046 item 3087 item 3172 item 3250 summoner 4 summoner 7 Support Alistar item 2045 item 3401 item 3083 item 3075 item 3800 item 3250 summoner 12 summoner 3

5 Comments

TotN Titan7/7/2015, 12:56:16 PM1 votes

If I want CS in the middle to late game, I don't go to the mid lane. I farm side lanes, push them out until the river, then back and buy or pick up a jungle camp on my way to meet up with my team for an objective. You spend too much time in one place, some people think that it's in their best interest to join you. Also, ping the wave you are heading toward and back ping anyone heading toward your side wave. There's no reason for half of your team to give up pressure on the map by having two champions in a side lane. Communication is really the only way you're going to get the CS you're looking for.

Truth be told, however, if you're in a lane for more than three waves in the mid to late game (judging by how you spoke about getting only 6/25 CS), you are probably pressing too far in one lane anyway and are gathering the eye of the enemy team. You're about to need one or two of your teammates in that side lane to fend off a two or three man gank.

As for your "best team comp ever", it has a jungle Jarvin without any MR and a Thornmail instead of Randuin's for the +health synergy on Cinderhulk (and an AoE slow). You also have a Tristana that needs over 40 minutes to reach max items (BotRK/TriForce/I Edge/Mercurial = 14.4k gold) and Magic Penetration boots. I can't say much for the Diana, as I don't play her often, but for the Alistar and Maokai, I try to find some way fit a Righteous Glory into the build for at least one of them. It is a great initiation tool, especially since your team composition prefers to go with 4 melee champions. Just a little food for thought.

ZergReap7/7/2015, 12:59:14 PM1 votes

by looking at a minion wave you can tell whether it is going to build up and push towards you or do so the other way. Learn to reconize when it is going to push into you and be proactive. all the problems with barons inhibs etc you can learn with time. Try to think one step ahead.

Drunk Rummate7/7/2015, 1:03:07 PM1 votes

If ADC and support come mid and try that 20 minute "siege" where they take all your farm trying to kill the inner turret, just leave and farm their lane instead. Support + ADC mid is enough to hold 2-3 enemy champions while you get a side lane pushed before you come back.

ADCs job is to kill towers so if you take your outer tower sooner this wont happen to you as often. But you will run the risk of getting a yolo push bot lane that just keeps pushing for inner past wards then, which is even worse.

koldsteel027/8/2015, 2:01:45 AM1 votes

If you're a mid champ and bot lane comes up to try and siege mid-lane outer turret for you at the 20min mark, chances are their own tower is still standing yet they pushed their enemy outer turret down already. Take advantage of this and farm bot waves just outside turret range (control the wave by just last-hitting, NOT pushing). Let your team know that you need to catch up in cs so you can provide more use. If they keep trying to press mid without you and blame failing teamfights because you aren't around, then you'll have to ignore them.

CS is underrated in lower bronze, so chances are people will probably give you flak for not staying with the team even though you're behind. When you swap to a less-populated lane, remember to keep wards around you. Another underrated principle in low-bronze is map vision and map awareness. If you are a mid champ and head to bot lane to catch up in cs, post your 3 wards in bushes near you and stay far enough away so you can give yourself enough time to run if the enemy closes in.

3tyson7/8/2015, 4:27:21 PM1 votes

dont be afraid to waste mana on farming waves... you farm faster can move to another place farm more back have advantage

as a jungler im really used to farm with abilitys your only not farming with abilitys if you want to freez or have lane pushing towards you