Lucian Build

Bobbi Johnson ·3/5/2015, 12:24:12 AM·1 votes·1,114 views

Im far from a great player, but I do main Lucian and I have been using Essence Reaver + Ionian Boots + Brutalizer, which if anyone can notice is 10% + 10% + 10% Cool Down Reduction. Plus a handsome 10% lifesteal and 10% armor pen !!!!!

Why isn't this build used more if Lucian gets ahead a little ?

I finish Lucian off with Last Whisper adding even more armor bypassing plus I buy Blood Thirst making Lucian lifesteal at 30%

So we have a Lucian with TONS of armor pen, TONS of Life Steal and virtually zero cool down compared to enemy champs, and with essence reaver constantly supplying mana, I spam abilities all day

So with this build, we have sustain (life steal), Tank Killer (Amor Pen), Funk Master Spam ( CDR :Maxed )

What is wrong with this build ?

7 Comments

Yaksha3/5/2015, 12:28:52 AM1 votes

It has no crit, attack speed or anything defensive. That's its problem.

Aeko3/5/2015, 12:39:41 AM1 votes
  1. Essence Reaver is a waste of a slot of lucian.
  2. There are better items to build if you get ahead
  3. Ionian boots make you atk slower, your an adc you need to get atks off. If you were a caster adc on the otherhand like ez, or corki.
  4. Shouldnt finish off with last wisper, by then its late game and you would've not been doing the dmg you were supposed to mid game
  5. Whats the point of gettings tons of life steal if you dont have enough atk speed to heal quickly?
  6. Idealized late game build: Last Wisper, Greaves, Bloodthirster, Infinity Edge, phantom dancer, mercurial schimitar.
The Chin3/5/2015, 1:09:58 AM1 votes

lol this is actually a really good build, I played a ton of lucian last season and this was my favorite build. At 40% CDR he's more of a caster, so attack speed doesn't really benefit him at all... And since he's got a 500 AA range it's actually pretty risky for him to just stand and auto. Most of all 40% CDR Lucian is a monster in teamfights.

ZeroAnarchy3/5/2015, 1:22:42 AM1 votes

item 3031 item 3087 item 3006 item 3035 item 3072 item 3139

Shogunai3/5/2015, 4:49:44 PM1 votes

I've never personally build Lucian this way, however there are several different ways to build him. I've found thatitem 3252 item 3153 item 3142 item 3035 to work out great as core items followed by the usual defensive items. However like i said there are many different ways to build him, Your got item 3031 item 3087 pathing, item 3153 item 3142 pathing, item 3078 pathing, plus your own. Build are situational so you have to know the champion an how these builds apply to that champion an which situations to use them in. I can help you with builds as much as I can. Add me in game if you want to talk about them.

pE4CbxDPQO3/5/2015, 11:50:01 PM1 votes

Everyone makes Lucian a little different.

Ionian Ie Pd Situational Situational Situational

For me.

Been meaning to revisit the Trinity Force build to see if it had and use these days.

rth23/6/2015, 4:49:57 PM1 votes

Ok, so I'm going to take a constructive approach to your build, and other builds. And attempt to explain why some people won't prefer your build.

Lucian , in general, works like a caster adc. This is because his passive allows him to double strike. So each time you use an ability, you get two free auto's (your regular auto attack plus one at (30/40/50% AD) + it can crit). So this gives him the ability to fight within these mini power spike windows, giving him the ability to out trade his opponents by dash - double - q - double - w - double - dash - double (and you can throw in an ult if you want for another quick double).

ok, so the items you listed are : item 3158 item 3508 item 3134 item 3035 item 3072 .

I assume you add a 6th defensive item since you don't list it and finish build something like this item 3158 item 3508 item 3142 item 3035 item 3072 ( item 3026 / item 3102 / item 3139 ).

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Im far from a great player, but I do main Lucian and I have been using Essence Reaver + Ionian Boots + Brutalizer, which if anyone can notice is 10% + 10% + 10% Cool Down Reduction. Plus a handsome 10% lifesteal and 10% armor pen !!!!!

item 3142 - item 3134 gives a flat 10 armor pen, not %. Which is actually better for the early game and for killing champs that don't build armor. item 3142 = +20. Although a item 1031 more than negates this penetration ( gives 40 armor!). Which is why you do, rightly, get a item 3035 . I like this item decently, the active has synergy with your ult, allows you that extra attack speed, gives you cooldowns for your abilities, helps you stick to targets, and gives you some crit for your auto's (and passive). It may fall off late late game, but gives a really good mid game power spike that can hold you until you are ready to swap items out. (note that item 3046 is probably the better dueling item with 20% more crit chance and 10% more AS than the ghostblade active. However, you are not taking your lane bully item 3134 with CDR and Flat Pen. It's really a style choice that early. How do you want to play.)

item 3158 - I like these boots on Lucian. This and ghostblade bring you up to a good amount of CDR without really overdoing it. If you pick up a blue buff while killing people you will be set on cdr without toppling the scale for no reason. item 3006 are also fine if you are more focused on your auto attacks, however since you generally throttle your damage using your passive and Ghostblade gives you 6 seconds of +40% AS, i just think the Ionian boots do a better job of letting me maximize my damage.

item 3035 - this is a standard adc item. If the enemy team has armor then you need this to do damage. Even Vayne uses this so that all 3 of her attacks can be useful instead of just her silver bolts proc.

item 3072 - again pretty standard for a late game pick up. Does good damage, gives 20% lifesteal, and provides a shield to help negate random harass if your team sieges.

item 3508 - this would be the main item people would have issues with, me being one of those people. So let me break down why. Choosing to Rush this item means, obviously, you are not rushing other big starting items. The big starting items like this all have +80 AD so that is even among all of them. So you are basically rushing the passives. 10% cdr, 10% lifesteal, get mana back on hit 2% - 8%.

You can get 8% lifesteal and 10 damage on item 1053 for 800 gold, you can easily get the lifesteal if you are behind and need it and still build towards other items.

10% cdr I do not think is better than either a item 3153 active or item 3031 giving you a 20% chance to deal 250% damage.

Mana back- I don't find mana to be a huge issue, especially late game, as long as you know how to watch your mana pool. If you are spamming your abilities all day long then yeah, you will run out if you don't have blue buff. Mana is also only a problem if you are doing an incredibly long duel. You should not have a problem cycling through your abilities a few times in a teamfight. The reason I don't like this passive is because it makes up for not being able to manage your mana, something that you can learn to do therefore you don't really need to spend gold on it. This is an exception on some champions. The biggest example I have seen is Jayce, who can justify spamming his gate + orb. So in a long siege sequence he may need this.

I think that the lifesteal is negate-able with item 1053 and blue buff can make up for the other passives mid - late game when you may possibly be spamming that much without going home. Generally you take this blue off somebody you killed, or you steal their blue.

Why isn't this build used more if Lucian gets ahead a little ?

I would say this is because you can rush a item 1038 item better suited to gaining early dominance with your passive. Such as item 3031 (those crits).

So we have a Lucian with TONS of armor pen, TONS of Life Steal and virtually zero cool down compared to enemy champs, and with essence reaver constantly supplying mana, I spam abilities all day

Your armor pen is about the same as most late game builds as item 3142 does not do a % as you thought. It is actually better that it does flat as that is more effective against the non armor champs (mentioned earlier).

The difference between having 20% lifesteal and 30% lifesteal really isn't that big if you don't have the damage to back it up. Remember, you are building to spam abilities which will not proc lifesteal. You need better auto's to make the lifesteal pay off.

The last part about spamming, again, is just learning to manage your mana / abilities, and is negated by having a blue buff. Which means any blue buffs you pick up with your current build are actually pretty useless.

What is wrong with this build ?

There is nothing really wrong with the build. You are building to spam abilities and you can do that. However, you are susceptible to burst damage and you don't have that burst healing from crit strikes (not consistent) and you don't do burst damage (low crit), you do chunks with your abilities. This is fine, it can work especially if it fits your play style. However, I think this style can be maintained while covering some of the weaknesses if you just get a blue buff (which you will by playing teamfights well).

Ok, so if I'm so smart how do I build?

Lucian item 3031 item 3142 item 3158. This gives me 20% cdr, 35% crit chance, 20 armor pen (plus runes/masteries), and 6 seconds of AS/MS with active.

item 3046 / item 3035 Order depending on enemy armor and focus / kill potential. The extra 50% AS, 35% crit, and minion ignore passive helps dueling a lot. 70% crit strike with a 6 second window of 90% AS. This combined with my abilities giving me extra chances for Crit Strikes generally means that the fight is over by the time one rotation is over. That is e - 2 (autos) - q - 2- w - 2- e - 2. Then 90% AS, Ulting them if they run. 8 auto's there, at 70%, good chance i'm critting them 4-5 times real fast.

The % armor pen is there for the same reason it is on every adc. It is great against people who have bought at least 1 item 1031.

Last item can def go depending on the game. Defense options as listed above : item 3026 - if you are being focused / bursted and can't stop it. item 3139 - to shrug off that 1 form of CC that can get you. item 3102 - Actually a good MR and dueling item. 55 MR. 450 health. 100% base regen. Gives you more of a life bar to fill back up with lifesteal if you swap out item 3142 for item 3072 / item 3153 / item 3508 even if you want.

You can also get items like item 3087 if you aren't afraid of being killed and want the extra burst + 90% Crit Strike. (item 3046 can give you the 100% or item 3078 can give you the sheen proc.) You can also sell boots for these extra damage spikes if you need them, as they all give MS (though not as much as item 3172 which also gives AD and preserves your cooldowns).

item 2140 also gives damage and champion only lifesteal (10%) for those short duels. Doing crit bursts should give you enough healing with this.

One of the glaring weaknesses in this build is the lack of sustain / lifesteal. But I supplement that early game with potions. This is also deliberate as the playstyle I am choosing is that of a burst / nuker. If the game looks like one where I will need the sustain, I can always supplement with a item 3072 instead of the first item 3046 or item 3142.

What about the ol' item 3142 / item 3153 ?

This build usually finishes out like the other builds (item 1001 , item 3035 , item 3072/item 3139 , extra slot) but is focused on having a really rapid fire ult and kiting potential with the two actives.

You can also make fun on hit builds with item 3153 , item 3025 , item 3115 , item 3091 , that type of stuff. I haven't tried it, and i'm not saying it's the strongest build. It could be fun on aram/bots though!

Ok, so that was long. I hope it was helpful! If you have any questions or if I need to clarify something please let me know and good luck out on that Rift!