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What's it take to get over 50% win rate? ;l

Leti the Yeti··1 votes·2,654 views

So my room mate pointed out that at the end screen of every game, it displays your total wins and total losses so Yeah, I started paying attention to it more frequently

I've noticed that I have a pretty good 50% win rate, my losses and wins are pretty much the same I look over at that guy and he has like 200 wins above his losses... hoh lee schit I want that kind of satisfaction but I can never EVER deviate from that 50%... I know this is intended by Riot, 50% win rate is only fair, but then its totally possible to be an outlier

I figure I need to both go on win streaks and improve.. annnnd I would say I DO go on win streaks occasionally, I have no way of measuring but I'm guessing I'm improving? lol well fuq you riot, it hasnt been working out >:l i get as far as like... idk 6 wins above my losses and Rito be like.. NUPE, twas as far as u go

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Romance2 votes

Want to improve your winrate? Best advice I can give is this:

If YOU are performing poorly, take two losses consecutively as a hint to call it a day.

If teammates are doing badly, leave after three losses, this assuming you've played less than six games already. Naturally if I lose my first 3 games, half the time I'm done for the day.

Always dodge when you get the "X or feed!" guy, even if he gets his role, 9/10 times they suck with the role.

Play your best role and best champion, if you can't get them, dodge.

Alternatively you can force someone else to dodge, but for obvious reasons my official suggestion is for you to not do this.

Make plays. That's the biggest secret. If you can learn how to make plays in your ELO that can win for you, that will help greatly. I had a significant ELO jump last season from when I went s1 to p1 just because I had a high farm, high income jungle style. With this gold advantage I could make massive plays, I could train their ADC or most fed player and kill them singlehandedly in most cases and win the teamfight.

Count the next 20 games of ranked you play, if you manage to win 11/20 of them, you'll climb. As long as you tend to win more than you lose you'll always climb, just the speed will vary.

Shiroi Kitsune1 votes

As another jungler, I'm curious as to which jungle champ you did this with? I feel that's something Udyr does most proficiently. Had one of my friends reach diamond by playing a "I love farm/ ganks are for noobs" play-style with him.

Romance2 votes

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As another jungler, I'm curious as to which jungle champ you did this with? I feel that's something Udyr does most proficiently. Had one of my friends reach diamond by playing a "I love farm/ ganks are for noobs" play-style with him.

Apologies for the lack of response on time:

I used Hecarim for this purpose, he scales extremely well with farm. Just get: Trailblazer (Warrior) then Trinity (I like Sheen first, Phage is more effective overall) and proceed to go damage. Honestly, pretty much any jungler does well with farm. I have this view: You can bank on the idea "I'll get fed." and spam ganks. It works from time to time, but farm is constant. If you farm poorly you can adjust it. However, if your ganks all fail, you'll be useless late game. Farm however allows me to override this. Each camp is roughly 100g. 3 camps = 1 kill. Do the math.

Amumu even worked for this, my alt account in Gold 1 for s3 (former main) had like 32-9 W/L as Amumu jungle. I jungled the same way and I was almost always 1-2 items up on their jungler while also having the Amumu power. Mummy Hand Grenade OP.

My typical build looks like this:

Trailblazer(W) > Boots of Lucidity > Trinity Force > Warmog's (If their team's AD or AP doesn't particularly hurt.) > Visage/Sunfire/Randuins (If their AP is fed, Visage, if the AD is fed, Randuin's or Sunfire. If you NEED them to die, Randuin's. I get sunfire for extra damage and HP.)

Naturally I only gank when it'll secure a kill, I don't gank for the "Just gank and push him back to his tower" crap. I gank to get them OUT OF LANE through either blue pill or a body bag. Then once they leave I immediately shove the lane to their tower to deny them CS.

One of the best tools to carry, especially in lower ELO: If the enemy laner is gone, push the wave to their tower. This denies them CS and gives you CS/gold. Making your team's gold value go up. If the enemy jungler comes to stop you, their jungle is worth less gold. If you're in lower ELO, most people spam ping you when they're in base saying "Off my CS noob", just ignore them. In Bronze and Silver, they have no fucking clue what "freezing" is or how to do it so when some bronzie says "he's just gonna freeze.", laugh in his face.

Note that if you look me up, ranked stats only track lane minion for minions killed. Whereas my actual CS in games is upwards of 200+ averagely. But yeah, I do take 105+ lane minions a game. That should say how much I love pushing, and taxing.

Champs I advise you play to get a lot out of this style: Hecarim MasterYi Shyvana Nocturne Skarner Amumu RekSai Udyr Zac

Shiroi Kitsune1 votes

You know, I think that's been one of my main problems with jungle. I want to do everything: farm, gank, counter-jungle, etc., but by focusing on too many things, I tend to do each individual thing at a lower level than it should be done at. I might try that style and see how it goes (Hecarim was actually my first main in the jungle, so it'll probably be good to get back on him)

Space Bum2 votes
  1. Luck

The game is designed to get you to a point where you are playing with people at your skill level. If both teams have an equal level of skill they each have a 50% chance of winning.

You may go +10 or more sometimes but you will get knocked down eventually.

Players with unusually high win rates are generally high ELO smurfs. Their MMR takes longer to catch up to their skill level. Some smurfs even dodge their placements to remain at a lower Rank.

Shiroi Kitsune2 votes

Last season, my best friend achieved over a 70% win rate and got up to plat by playing wu kong. He just got super good at the early game, and would almost always get first blood, regardless of the lane opponent. Then he would just split push for days. While it's a strategy that doesn't work as well if the enemy is properly coordinated, it worked consistently enough for him that he just always did it.

BluePolarizer1 votes

Protip: after winning 3 in a row, play 10 ARAMS straight. I almost guarentee that you will lose 7 or more of them. Now those 7 could've been ranked games.

Leti the Yeti1 votes

oooh uuh, no worries I already lost 12 games in a row due to incompetent as fking team mates but thats an entirely ~~~~different subject >.>

I should be on track for winning again Riot likes to do that you know? you got 3 wins? ? would be a shame if u lost the next 3

BluePolarizer1 votes

Last season it took me 3 weeks get out of silver and was then stuck in gold 5 for another 3 weeks. This season I rose up to gold 4 in like 3 days after it took me 2 weeks to get out of silver. Thank you ARAM!

Karlyr1 votes

you need to have : A) A better attitude towards your teammates B) A better understanding of the game C) More practice on some roles.

Don't blame matchmaking. Learn to make it lie. It is supposed to match you with people of your skill level. Just show the matchmaking that this isn't your level.

StealWolverine1 votes

Is it just your ranked wins/losses you can see? Or can you see normals too?

Leti the Yeti1 votes

you can see normals ;o

QuantumLight1 votes

when you finish a game, there are 2 numbers above the scorecard/table/whatever the hell it is

your wins are the left number, losses are the right.

QuantumLight1 votes

You do it by not letting your mmr get to where it should be. play to much/get unlucky with an accurate placement of your account, the mmr system catches up to you and your screwed.

easiest way is to smurf.

lol just realized i have no idea what my normals win rate is xD going to go check this now

Leti the Yeti1 votes

how the hell do I do that ;l I do notice when i play a shit ton, I'm eventually faced with a losing streak

also isnt "accurate" a good thing? i thought the issue was that it was innaccurate

QuantumLight1 votes

well, your trying to get a greater then 50% win rate, that means that having a 50% win rate is the oposite of what you want (bad).

honestly at this point u get better at the game if you want to improve it, but you need to make the skill level jump really quickly, or else the mmr system will keep up with your improvement.

playing a lot usually screwes people up because they get tired playing, psychologicly they arnt paying as much attention.

as for accurate, you currently have the mmr system's ideal acuracy of 50% win rate. That means you have been placed exactly where your skill level is, with comperable players to play against.

from the mmr systems perspective you were accuratly placed, which is bad for your goal of 60%+ winrate.

Leti the Yeti1 votes

~~i fail to believe losing 12 games in a row is a good indication that I'm in the right place ~~ comparable players to play against but no with apparently

I suppose ima need to find me a coach over the break 3..

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