What should I rush on AD TF/

Samflash3·Jan 7, 2015·1 votes·2,214 views

Trinity Force, BorK, Wits End, or BF?

21 Comments

TheGamingWayJan 7, 20151 votes

I would say Blade of the Ruined King if you are behind or Trinity Force if you are ahead. Both work very well with him IMO. I tend to go item 3250 item 3153 item 3078 item 3031 item 3046

Duke AnaxJan 7, 20151 votes

Considering that AD TF still does a lot of magic damage with his cards and benefits fully from Spellvamp, I'd say take item 3146 instead of item 3153 item 3078 is definitely a good choice either first or second. His Cards cannot critically strike, so item 3031 and item 3046 are not worth quite as much as on other champs. I'd rather have items that help with cdr or mana, like item 3508 and item 3071 to make better use of Spellblade. It's a guaranteed 300% hit. item 3091 at any time to round out the build.

TheGamingWayJan 8, 20151 votes

I think that part of the reason that ad TF works and is relatively good is because he has a decent targeted stun along with the extra damage and attack speed you get from his e.

The damage from his e is why i like item 3153 item 3046 , so it applies as many times as possible within the fight. That extra 280 damage or so every 4 hits does surprisingly a lot if you get 2 attacks off every second. If I go item 3508 and item 3071 than I don't get as many attacks per second as i normally would cutting my possible damage by quite a bit. You also dont need the mana back on hit from because you have blue cards.

One thing to remember about ad TF is that he isn't relying on his pick a card to deal damage and is only using it in a fight in order to stun an opponent. This means that most of the time he has the potential to crit making item 3031 worth it on him especially if he already has decent crit chance.

Idk about item 3091 though, i would get that if I was on a full ad team but that is about it.

Edit: also you don't need wave clear from item 3087 because you have your red cards.

Duke AnaxJan 9, 20151 votes

I choose it mainly for the cdr, but yeah with blue card it's kinda wasted, so I'd go with item 3158 instead.

If you are counting on E, then item 3085 may actually be a choice, if you have the target's, you'll be using it on two of three shots. it also charges item 3087 and reloads item 3146

hmm that leaves me with item 3158 item 3078 item 3146 item 3085 item 3087 item 3071 I got a bit off from the AD I guess, but it's an interesting hybrid build (;

TheGamingWayJan 9, 20151 votes

I think I may try this at some point if you don't mind. ;) (btw i hope this helped the maker of this thread we kinda went off on a tangent xD)

Samflash3Jan 8, 20151 votes

BorK seems doable as a first item. I just have the problem with the Phantom and IE. Because I seem to have no crit when I pick a card.

Try using Statikk shiv at 100 charges when you've picked a card. It will never crit

Samflash3Jan 7, 20151 votes

But his W doesn't crit. So wouldn't the crit be a waste?

TeemoHunter1337Jan 7, 20151 votes

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But his W doesn't crit. So wouldn't the crit be a waste?

his autoattacks crit....

his w doesnt take off his damage crit from autoattack.

Samflash3Jan 7, 20151 votes

I tested it. It did take it off. If you pick a card and try and autoattack, the attack will be a very low crit (say 2)

Duke AnaxJan 9, 20151 votes

Common misconception on AD TF, his W doesn't add damage, it converts.

It completely removes the physical part and 0 damage critical is still 0 damage.

Aurelius MaximusJan 7, 20151 votes

if you are serious about it, the same build for all adcs is fine

Trinity IE Shiv LW

MajidesukaJan 7, 20151 votes

My 2 cents: item 3044 for survivability/durability then transition into item 3078 as your first item.

Acidic PuddleJan 8, 20151 votes

What about nashors tooth, i have never played him but it seems decent....

TheGamingWayJan 9, 20151 votes

That would be ap/hybrid dps TF when he asked about ad. Its not bad on him if that's how you want to play though.

DonaldPotsmokerJan 9, 20151 votes

I usually just rock the all attack speed runes, max my e, then w, and gets hurricane, and probably pd or wits end, and regular ad stuff. SotD worked well back when it was around.

ravenswolfyJan 9, 20151 votes

Does item 3085 work on his E? Last I checked it didn't D:

Chaotic ReksJan 9, 20151 votes

it does

ravenswolfyJan 9, 20151 votes

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it does

It just gets more stacks faster right? but doesn't apply the damage to all targets?

Chaotic ReksJan 9, 20151 votes

yeah, stack faster but no extra damage to the other targets, like cait passive

BastionKrossJan 9, 20151 votes

I tend to gravitate toward an attack speed based on-hit TF, to take full advantage for his E. To that end:

item 3153 - Adds %scaling physical damage, and adds a slow to help the immobile TF kite. Good item to rush first. item 3091 - Adds extra magic damage to each attack while lowering the enemy's MR and boosting yours, scales great with attack speed. Good item to rush first if you're against a lot of magic damage poke, otherwise you can squeeze it in anytime you feel the enemy mage is trying to blow you up. item 3087 - If you feel you need extra waveclear, get this instead of item 3085 . Not only does it grant other stats that can be useful, but the Shiv's unique passive helps you deal even more magic damage with each auto attack. This makes you and your mixed damage (from the items above as well) difficult to itemize against. item 3078 - If you're fed in the mid/late game, it just gives you such a power boost. item 3071 - Useful against targets that stack armor, or if you need a bit of CDR. item 3041 + item 3141 - BE A MAN. XinZhao