Weird builds to try
Suggestions like AP Xin, AS Naut, or AD annie please
Suggestions like AP Xin, AS Naut, or AD annie please
Support Anivia, Top Lane Taric, Jungle Morgana & Jungle Zyra.
I'll try Taric top those two jg suggestions
I'll try Taric top those two jg suggestions
Morgana and Zyra jungling takes practice. Taric top works surprisingly well. He gets underestimated a lot. AP laners kinda kill his purpose with his armor stacking. But if that happens you can always just max Q instead and turtle for the laning phase. His stun is great for setting up ganks for his jungler too.
Tank AP Warwick, Jungle AD Nami
have you tried AD nami jg?
Hehe no but I see it as something dead crazy

She's a bit squishy so im hesistant
AD Nami can work, but it certainly is not top-tier. I have not seen it in the jungle, but I HAVE seen Taric in the jungle, which was outrageous.
A weird but enjoyable buid is AD
, His voidlings deal a % of his AD. So you spam spells and make an unstopable army of Hard hitting little bugs.
Plus they hit whetever ur ulting. So get as many voidlings out as possible, Immobilize them with ur ult and let the little buggers smash the shit outa the enemy.
Whenever i see AD mal he is doing super good, i dont see why more people dont play it
AP/AS (not as good anymore without DFG tho)
Seraph's+AP or Manamune+AD
Magic pen build (those cleavers HURT)
AP (excellent assassin actually, really good at countering AP heavy teams, should see more play than he does)
AP (Probably the highest damage champion in the game, but not very bursty, and needs a LOT of protection)
AD (Rush Trinity force into IE+PD+BT and you deal crazy burst with your AA-Q-AA combo)
AD+Crit (W's steroid makes you surprisingly bursty with IE and some extra AD and Crit chance)
AP Burn build (Rylai's+Liandry's=Spirit fire of DOOM! you can still farm stacks well with Lich bane or Trinity force, and build full tank after that)
AP (you have insane burst, and if you build a lot of armor to go along with your AP, you deal great mixed damage)
Thanks so much for the detailed suggestions!
AP Lucian mid and AD / AS Janna top are fun.
What on lucian scales with AP?
What on lucian scales with AP?
His W. 90% ap ratio. Max it. Get Ludens, cdr boots, lich, nashors, dcap, void staff.
his ult also scales with ap but not very well. It scales for 10% of your ability power. 25% for ad. Thats why trinity force is really good on ad lucian. Lichbane would be the way to go for full ap lucian
Maybe I'll try once i get him
What on lucian scales with AP?
W and a little ratio on R.
Tank
AP
AD
Critical Strike

They still work, just weird lol
thx for the variety of suggestions. Im liking the crit Garen, because of that Spin to win crits. AP cait sound silly. Ori alone has a lot of versatility so I'd imagine going AD would work. Not sure about tank ashe though haha
AP Cait hurt with her W and E. I played some funny game with my friend, which was Cait + Morg + Lux dominated every single fight lol.
About Ashe, I suggest that you run the full frozen build with
, which give you tons of Armor, Health, 40% CDR (result in permanent slow from far, far away), and a literally "cool girl" lmfao.
Ill try the ashe build out, i also wanna do supp ashe
ap xin is easy. Nashor's, spirit visage, and deathcap. You can now face tank turrets and win.
AD annie can work but it just has no synergy. Everything good about annie comes from her burst which you really won't be using often. However ad support annie is a beast. AA-q poke constantly. This is honestly where ad annie belongs. I run my adc runes and utility masteries to get as much gold as possible then transition into ap. A long sword is very nice on her early too.
adc leblanc - I haven't run this personally but I have seen it a few times. Easily one of the safest possible adcs. Usually go for as much crit as possible and a bit of damage. ie, pd, shiv, yomuus in any combination that you would like. You can bypass the tank line completely and just kill the squish. It can wreck people pretty hard.
adc twisted fate - I absolutely love this. I don't think it's weird but I always seem to get bitched at when I play it. botrk, lw, pd, ie/shiv, bloodthirster. max E first then w. don't bother with q at all. I only put points into it when I have nothing else to level and then never use it. strong poke on every fourth attack with a passive AS buff. The all in potential at level two is pretty high and once you get rolling ult kills are easy. You're definitely going to want to get life steal and a fair bit of it. you're squishy as hell.
ap warwick - He can be an absolute monster if he gets snowballing.
Full ap amumu - It's just fun. Standard ap build with cdr. ult anything that so much as moves >.< And for more fun do the amumu insec. hook a tank then flash onto the carries for the ult. same thing as lee sin right?
[{quoted}](name=Hinro Honato,realm=NA,application-id=WEuoGbmp,discussion-id=8REXy5s4,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2015-05-03T14:20:38.400+0000)adc twisted fate - I absolutely love this. I don't think it's weird but I always seem to get bitched at when I play it. botrk, lw, pd, ie/shiv, bloodthirster. max E first then w. don't bother with q at all. I only put points into it when I have nothing else to level and then never use it. strong poke on every fourth attack with a passive AS buff. The all in potential at level two is pretty high and once you get rolling ult kills are easy. You're definitely going to want to get life steal and a fair bit of it. you're squishy as hell.
Hurricane is super broken on AD Fate, or even AP for that matter. It allows you to get your E bonus once every other auto attack.
Throwing hurricane into a full AP build probably would be smart
I've never seen AD LB, maybe ill try it
on-hit AS Soraka jungle.
what build?
and whatever other two items
However, if you want cdr, you could add in a
.
sounds good
I build Jungle AS Soraka like this:

Her kit has no support whatsoever for an AA only playstile. It's a matter of you can, but why would you want to?
This way you can actually do something with your spells.
I'll try it when i get around to it, so many suggestions so far haha
I love off-meta stuff. Jungle Braum is a ton of fun if you have him, AP Skarner mid does a crap ton of damage and has a massive shield. AP Irelia does a crap ton of burst damage.
I've seen the Braum jg a couple times, but they usually do horrible
I've seen the Braum jg a couple times, but they usually do horrible
It's rather weird and you need some special runes to help with your first clear. I tried it on PBE just so I had what I needed. You still build tanky, but more of a bruiser with focus on AS instead of just full tank. Your build will usually look like:

For high AD teams switch
for
Heavy CC switch
for
OR switch
for
but that will lose you some MR.
If they have lots of true damage (
) you can grab a
.
Always get Furor as it lets you stick to your target to apply your passive. Your ult and jump are your ganking tools, jump in then ult to keep someone from running. Late game you look somewhat like Skarner. A dueling beast that destroys people one by one while also providing a ton of utility.
AP darius.
I'm a fan of support splitpusher Shaco. Start with an Ancient Coin for sustain (with a little extra regen in your runes/masteries, you can place a box every time it's available) and scanner for removing enemy wards (or totem if you really want to be a master of vision control). If you keep boxes up in the river bush and tribush (if you're on blue side), you're practically ungankable. With a Caitlyn as your ADC, your lane is almost entirely ungankable (traps everywhere). Proceed to build Tiamat as soon as possible, followed by Statikk Shiv and Trinity Force. Your burst will be considerable, and your waveclear will be insane. You'll also be extremely fast (nigh-uncatchable because of Shaco's kit); I regularly skip building boots because Shaco can easily escape without much speed if you learn how to juke and blink over the right walls. I'd also suggest an Infinity Edge because it greatly increases your DPS and synergizes with both Statikk Shiv's proc and Shaco's Q minicrit.
Cooldown reduction is a decent stat to have as support AD Shaco (more W boxes, more Q invisibility, more E shiv throwing, and more clones), but you're perfectly fine with zero CDR.
In most matches, you'll end up catching your bottom lane opponents on a box sooner or later, then immediately ending the lane with a strong push (assisted by your ADC, boxes, and clone). I usually don't lose my tower because Shaco's boxes can greatly disrupt minion waves when they're hitting your tower. Either way, as soon as your lane is over, you use your Tiamat to push another lane and farm (while keeping yourself safe with boxes for vision). Once you have Sheen, Statikk Shiv, and Tiamat, your burst is considerable (though you probably won't 100-0 anyone until you get Infinity Edge); you'll become a great splitpusher, vision controller (without having to buy many wards!), and assassin, despite being a lowly support.
The main weakness of support Shaco is your lack of direct peel for your ADC. I usually take Ignite and Exhaust for extremely strong dueling/assassination power, plus Exhaust can make up for your lack of peel. You'll do much better with a coordinated/voice-chatting team because they're more likely to coordinate with your box placement. Your boxes can save your team's collective ass if they lose a teamfight, or allow your team to jump on squishier targets when they happen to step too close to a box.
I'm a fan of support splitpusher Shaco. Start with an Ancient Coin for sustain (with a little extra regen in your runes/masteries, you can place a box every time it's available) and scanner for removing enemy wards (or totem if you really want to be a master of vision control). If you keep boxes up in the river bush and tribush (if you're on blue side), you're practically ungankable. With a Caitlyn as your ADC, your lane is almost entirely ungankable (traps everywhere). Proceed to build Tiamat as soon as possible, followed by Statikk Shiv and Trinity Force. Your burst will be considerable, and your waveclear will be insane. You'll also be extremely fast (nigh-uncatchable because of Shaco's kit); I regularly skip building boots because Shaco can easily escape without much speed if you learn how to juke and blink over the right walls. I'd also suggest an Infinity Edge because it greatly increases your DPS and synergizes with both Statikk Shiv's proc and Shaco's Q minicrit.
Cooldown reduction is a decent stat to have as support AD Shaco (more W boxes, more Q invisibility, more E shiv throwing, and more clones), but you're perfectly fine with zero CDR.
In most matches, you'll end up catching your bottom lane opponents on a box sooner or later, then immediately ending the lane with a strong push (assisted by your ADC, boxes, and clone). I usually don't lose my tower because Shaco's boxes can greatly disrupt minion waves when they're hitting your tower. Either way, as soon as your lane is over, you use your Tiamat to push another lane and farm (while keeping yourself safe with boxes for vision). Once you have Sheen, Statikk Shiv, and Tiamat, your burst is considerable (though you probably won't 100-0 anyone until you get Infinity Edge); you'll become a great splitpusher, vision controller (without having to buy many wards!), and assassin, despite being a lowly support.
The main weakness of support Shaco is your lack of direct peel for your ADC. I usually take Ignite and Exhaust for extremely strong dueling/assassination power, plus Exhaust can make up for your lack of peel. You'll do much better with a coordinated/voice-chatting team because they're more likely to coordinate with your box placement. Your boxes can save your team's collective ass if they lose a teamfight, or allow your team to jump on squishier targets when they happen to step too close to a box.
Thank you for this in-depth suggestion. Wasn't expecting great responses like these when I posted on the forums. Thank you so much for taking the time to write this.
Cinderhulk Jungle Zyra
It's pretty well known, but no one has posted it here that I've noticed.
AP 
Snag a Lich Bane, get lots of AP and CDR, then blow people up or blast them from afar. It's really fun to E-W-Q into an unsuspecting enemy and instantly delete them. I have had some fun in match ups against LeBlanc too, but I suspect those would be harder to pull off the more skilled your opponent is.
It's pretty well known, but no one has posted it here that I've noticed.
AP
Snag a Lich Bane, get lots of AP and CDR, then blow people up or blast them from afar. It's really fun to E-W-Q into an unsuspecting enemy and instantly delete them. I have had some fun in match ups against LeBlanc too, but I suspect those would be harder to pull off the more skilled your opponent is.
Ez is super fun, i usually play him ad though, maybe ill give AP a try
I generally go for a really weird build with ez on aram. I go for tear, building into manamune, then I rush sheen followed by hextech gunblade. I then finish trinity force and go for last whisper. I get cd boots. If I find I'm running out of mana I go for essence reaver. Otherwise I finish with infinity edge.
I generally go for a really weird build with ez on aram. I go for tear, building into manamune, then I rush sheen followed by hextech gunblade. I then finish trinity force and go for last whisper. I get cd boots. If I find I'm running out of mana I go for essence reaver. Otherwise I finish with infinity edge.

This doesn't work amazing, i dont like to give up flash
You don't have to give up flash!
Thank you so much for the detailed build
But the lane presence from smite or tp is gone then
Jungle Gnar w/ devourer, if this hasn't been mentioned yet. It was one of the nastiest games I have ever played. As well, AP tank Gnar. His stacks that burst into damage scale off AP. The first two hits will do almost nothing, but the third hit does a crap ton.