Kha'zix Jungle Advice(clearing, runes, masteries)

Chatillon·Aug 9, 2015·2 votes·1,255 views

So i just bought kha'zixso i can jungle with someone besides . He is okay, but i wanted another.

The first game was rough, i got exe'd 2 times b/c i nearly cleared something but not quite. Red buff just destroys me. i have only started from drag side so i dont know how gromp leash is but the red buff hurts. While with rammus i can do a full clear if i dont screw up, kha i can barely survive krugs red skuttle then birds. I start q then get w, then e, but i may get a 2nd w point and get e at four b/c im too low to gank. i evolve W then E then Q. warrior trailblazer, tiamat, ravenous, hex(depending), then lw with mobies.

my runes are 2 ad quints 1 as ad reds scaling mr blues armor yellows.

i clear minis at red and blue first for iso, but i dont know if that is good.

if you have any thing about kha, in general, ill take it, but first i want jg help

9 Comments

Mirage SeraphAug 10, 20152 votes

Hmm, I must say Kha's first clear is more PvE than Black Market Brawlers is when you get a bad leash, but after a bit of practice you can clear jungle without a leash.

My clear path is: Start Q, do Gromp, take W (duh), then start blue. Time your W heals carefully! If you can W at the very end of Gromp you will take the least amount of damage. After blue go around wolves and W them on your way out, free health basically. You can do the same with chickens, but not necessary. You should have enough health for red buff after that.

With a leash you don't NEED to heal off of the other camps, but you still end up with more health at the cost of a few seconds. I consider it worth. Alternatively you can go for Skuttlecrabs, bit risky cause you're probably pretty low on health to be running around in river.

Your build is solid, don't worry about that.

AD quints, armor pen reds, armor seals, and uh, I think MR per level glyphs? Could be CDR, I don't quite recall. And I think I run 21-6-3 on masteries, taking the bonus MS in the utility? I uh... don't revise my runes and masteries as much as I should, admittedly.

Also, as a long time Kha player, I recommend evolving Q or E over W almost all the time. W evolve is nice however it's very situationally more useful than... anything else. If played properly your Q and E are extremely optimal in most match ups. Your real choice over what to evolve is W or R. Once you have hydra, Q will basically one or two shot most camps since the small monsters die to hydra, and evolved Q plus evolved R makes you a nasty skirmisher.

And a little tip that I didn't know until somewhat recently. You can hydra and smite while mid flight. It's pretty silly E'ing over a wall and just killing a minion camp before you even land. Or using hydra to secure an assist while midflight over a squishy to reset your jump before you land. Mantis? More like grasshopper.

ChatillonAug 10, 20151 votes

The reason I evolve W right now is for the being healthy b/c i am inexperienced and get low to easily with Kha'zix. I think the armor pen reds would be good, except i have to buy more runes summoner 3 instead of JarvanIV . R.I.P. I don't think CDR per level will be good. The only tie i have seen any CDR per level is stuff like sejuani, whose major utility is ult and she has 6lvls of scaling cdr by the time she gets it but Kha's CD are low-ish to begin with.

I knew you can Hydra mid-air b/c Rengo can do that, and I guess i knew that smite can do that but im not a good enough jungler to really do that kind of stuff. But Did you know that you can Q mind-air too? I haven't done it b/c I'm still getting used to Kha's weird animations but nightblue says you can.

But thank you for your help :)

MerxamersAug 10, 20151 votes

Seraph is correct, Q and E evolutions should always be first; if you start W, it will be a long time before you have any usefulness for your team.

I use flat AD Quints and Reds, Armor Yellows, and flat CDR Blues. I don't use armor pen runes because 1) your isolation damage is magic damage and 2) any valid Khazix build will have tons of armor pen in it.

If you use flat CDR runes, you shouldn't have a problem clearing, as you can use your missiles and Q pretty often. MR blues are pretty much a luxury item on junglers who have amazing clear (Pantheon, Jarvan, etc.)

Get item 3713 as your first machete upgrade and you shouldn't have any problems at all. If you need help with your clearing mechanics, go watch some Nightblue videos on youtube, he's a pretty solid Khazix player and he'll show to best farm a camp with him, it's a bit tricky.

Not sure if you know this (in case you're new), but Khazix's Q is pretty much unusable if you don't use Quick-cast for it.

ChatillonAug 10, 20151 votes

nah, only use quick cast. Dont like smart at all. An yeah, i was going to get an AD quint to go with my other two. Ill try Q or E evo's. And i watched nb3 for a semester not a master by now..........

MerxamersAug 10, 20151 votes

the pros always make it look so easy :) At least they give good ideas on how to use a champion's kit most efficiently

ChatillonAug 10, 20151 votes

I just had a game where clear was A LOT better. Every lane fed, so gg but hey, i cleared better. the gromp start was good

EggstealerAug 9, 20151 votes

Try starting W if you start red side and use it after you get hit a little. I would almost always start blue side and start Q for the isolation on gromp. I don't think you need an AS quint just get another AD one. also, I assume you have all tier 3 runes right? Do camp > buff > scuttle > gank mid or top > either take one more camp or go buy.

Do purple smite with warrior and get like tabis unless you are going mobis.

ChatillonAug 10, 20151 votes

Yeah i go purple with warrior, haven't tried an early gank, but the w start, while it has a heal, the dps is lower. While I hate to make top leash, it may be the best way to get a good start. ty :)

EggstealerAug 10, 20151 votes

you say the dps is lower but not by much. with a boy lane leash you still end up with about 40 hp more than starting q against Krugs (in my experience). I would atleast try it.