Need an external observer/coach or something

AxlStream·May 6, 2015·1 votes·1,493 views

Here's my situation, I can't carry out of Silver. I'm not doing bad or anything. I get good scores, usually ahead in gold, decent objective controls, show up to teamfights when inevitable but I just can't win. I know the only think I can control is myself but I don't know how I can improve further. I get ahead as a tank my carries don't deal damage, I get ahead as a carry an assassin or w/e ungodly unstoppable champion comes straight for me and I can't kite endlessly (think of Riven there, always a Riven...), I go support, get my carry fed but somehow we just can't win fights. I'm tired of coming home from work, logging on and expecting to climb if my performance is there but it never happens. I get that one win for that glimmer of hope then I'm slammed with impossible to carry situations.

Would anyone be so kind to help me?

24 Comments

turtlecoonMay 6, 20151 votes

Okay, as long as you're okay with very blunt and rude criticism.

AxlStreamMay 6, 20151 votes

I'd actually love that because those scores differential I'm getting are getting to me and I'm starting to think I might be stuck because of teammates, which I know from climbing bronze ain't true but... you know sometimes how hard it is to find the actual reason.

Swat HoundMay 6, 20151 votes

Give me your schedule, if your interested.

I have a few friends asking me to do my placement matches so I could play with them in silver.

I've been wanting to make a low lvl (silver/bronze) 5s team and try to teach some things along the way.

Anyway...

1: Always ban Riven if shes giving you so much trouble

2: Try Duo Que with someone you trust if you're going support. I hate supporting, I don't trust anyone, 80% of the time its just a waste of 40 minutes of my life, which is why I pick AP Supports and blow up their ADC.

3: Wait a second. ARE YOU DUO QUEING? If you are you and your friends inflated score might be too much to handle with the OTHER duo que'ers.

4: Pick pubstomp champs. thats what they're there for.

AxlStreamMay 6, 20151 votes

All my friends already reached plat, so I'm not duo queing much. I do play ranked 5's with them and keep up with them. My schedule usually is around 8PM to 12AM-1AM on weekdays and pretty much entire weekends.

Swat HoundMay 6, 20151 votes

Bruh if all your friends hit plat why not ask some of them to spectate you a bit and have them give you some input.

I suggest you just pick a role you genuinely enjoy playing, and then pick a second incase the first ones taken.

Just enjoy the ride.

You can either play to win ELO or play and have fun, or if possible do both.

But I suggest just playing and enjoying the ride, you'll get there in time.

Also have you played your 300 games this ranked season? - Something something something true elo.

turtlecoonMay 6, 20151 votes

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Bruh if all your friends hit plat why not ask some of them to spectate you a bit and have them give you some input.

I suggest you just pick a role you genuinely enjoy playing, and then pick a second incase the first ones taken.

Just enjoy the ride.

You can either play to win ELO or play and have fun, or if possible do both.

But I suggest just playing and enjoying the ride, you'll get there in time.

Also have you played your 300 games this ranked season? - Something something something true elo.

He clearly doesn't deserve much higher than his current rank, at the moment. The sample size is large enough to know that much.

Swat HoundMay 6, 20151 votes

I'm willing to bet a good 80% of the players that believe they should be higher don't deserve higher than their current rank :3.

But yeah, everyone wants to improve but few are willing to admit that they just aren't good enough and maybe its not ALWAAAAAAAYS their teammate's fault.

Something something something... law of averages.

AxlStreamMay 6, 20151 votes

Most of them are just mid laners, the only role I don't play so their advice is limited. Also I played about 110 total this season excluding ranked teams. Was gold 5 last season. I'm already playing roles I enjoy though. Only problem is that they're the 2 roles that are team dependent, jungler and adc.

Swat HoundMay 6, 20151 votes

Woah Brutha!

Jungler? Team Dependent? I can understand ADC Absolutely. you need to get peeled and protected or you pop.

BUT JUNGLE? Naah man.

Jungle carries. IMO Jungle and Mid are the #1 spots to carry, probly the issue you're having man.

With jungle you can control the flow of the battle field. If some lane is losing thats when you step in and fix it (try to).

ADC is frustrating as balls unless your like wild turtle and everyone knows you and you just happen to have awesome supports. (But I think a lot of the time he duo's with a solid support)

You need to find a support partner and you both should work together to climb.

Also practice more jungle watch some videos and tutorials, I really think Jungler and Mid are the best positions to carry from (But of course whichever you're comfortable with helps)

AxlStreamMay 6, 20151 votes

Well to me it is team reliant since the tank meta arrived. I used to just be able to be a threat but now I'm just a wall while my teams struggle to deal the dps. Should I ignore the tank meta and stick to what I know?

Swat HoundMay 6, 20151 votes

Ah. yes. I hate this tank meta. I hate playing support/tank. I need to be able to blow up the enemy or the games over for me.

Also RIP Rengar in this tank meta.

I suggest you play what you love, but if you want to rise up high you need to be able to adapt to the meta quickly.

BEND TO IT'S WILL.... but yeah... I get what your saying.

AxlStreamMay 6, 20151 votes

I have no issues playing as the top 2 junglers but even while doing good on them, I'm still just a wall. Having your gold funneled into a tank doesn't help damage wise since as a collective team.

BigWizzardMay 6, 20151 votes

Whats your in game name. Ill be happy to help a fellow summoner

AxlStreamMay 6, 20151 votes

Same summoner name that made the thread aka AxlStream.

BigWizzardMay 6, 20151 votes

Oh sorry for not seeing that :/ Hope severs can come back on soon. Looking forwards to helping you!!

Commit SudokuMay 6, 20151 votes

ill take a look when league decides to work again

EliteGunm4nMay 6, 20151 votes

Duo queue will do wonders to help. Having a teammate that you can talk to and coordinate better with is very helpful. Likewise, it is somewhat implied you trust each other which is also helpful. I'm working and climbing through the ladder right now as well. The grind hurts but eventually you'll get where you wanna be. (hopefully I will too)