You know what else is unfair for my team though? Putting a Plat 4 Katarina vs silvers in TEAMBUILDER.
I'll write your dumb "I agree" this time, but don't expect me to stay positive and actually enjoy myself when you put someone in the top 15% of this game against people attempting to learn. You learn nothing from getting facerolled. It's like asking a new mountain climber to go ascend the Kilimanjaro for his first time.
bad arcade kitty2 votesdon't be scared of their rank, if they are put against you you have a good chance to win
AxlStream4 votesThat's a damn lie. This matchmaking should never put plats vs silver. It's pretty much instaloss whatever champ they play on whatever role. They just got that much more overall experience.
bad arcade kitty1 votesThat's a damn lie. This matchmaking should never put plats vs silver. It's pretty much instaloss whatever champ they play on whatever role. They just got that much more overall experience.
there is a reason why they were put against you
may be they are better than you, probably they are... but may be only when they play some role or some champion or try hard meanwhile they play normals sloppy, so if you met them in ranked you would be ruined but you still have a chance to win them in the normal
there is another option, there may be somebody on your team who has an equal or better skill than them but s/he didn't reach platinum yet because s/he didn't play enough games or something
or may be that plat guy was elo boosted
or may be he has a weak player on his team and you can feed on him and win etc etc
Nucleophilic atk1 votesYes, the reason is that they probably haven't played many normal matches. If I play ranked until I get master tier, my normal MMR is still going to be what it is now. Therefore, your argument is flawed.
straight4free1 votes[{quoted}](name=bad arcade kitty,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xBqAVL4H,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-03-28T22:19:32.906+0000)
don't be scared of their rank, if they are put against you you have a good chance to win
This isn't necessarily true. I'm low plat, wanted to play some normals which I hadn't done in a while, and was with bronze and against Bronze.
I picked Kat and steamrolled, got pentakill on my first Kat game.
My MMR isn't really low, it's just normal MMR is calculated separately I believe.
Hugh Drectum1 votesYou know what else is unfair for my team though? Putting a Plat 4 Katarina vs silvers in TEAMBUILDER.
I'll write your dumb "I agree" this time, but don't expect me to stay positive and actually enjoy myself when you put someone in the top 15% of this game against people attempting to learn. You learn nothing from getting facerolled. It's like asking a new mountain climber to go ascend the Kilimanjaro for his first time.
Actually I learned H2 from STK SERGIO from the original STK team with the OGRE brothers. I played 1v1s and got face rolled probably 1000 times before I was able to finally go a 9-10 1v1 Match up every time. Its about your perspective. I understand your point and agree. The system sets the game up to be UN ENJOYABLE.... but you have a lot to learn from someone in the top 15%
AxlStream1 votesYes because going 1v1 over multiple times against specific players compares to just getting stomped once in any regular queue.
PandahHeart1 votesI played Brand (someone I'm not that good with) against a Plat Leblanc. I'm in silver and I still won lane and even won the game with my team earlier lol.
Ranking doesn't matter in normals.
bad arcade kitty1 voteswell, yeah, the normal mmr is calculated separately, that's the point of my post you will rather quickly be put in your place though also i don't think you can judge by one game, everybody who plays kat has games when they stomped
Cindikle1 votesThe two systems use separate MMR.
You're leaning a champion. Play the game and learn something. Even that mountain climber will learn something before they fail and come back down. But they're not going look at it from the start and say "nope" to the 4 people who helped them get there.
One of the best ways we learn is from our mistakes. That's why the top players usually watch recordings of their own games to improve. You could of played the game and done the same to see what all happened.
I've faced the same problems before in teambuilder.
Tried AP Ez, faced a Yasou. Started off fine, melee vs ranged and all, till he got enough abilities and was able to easily kill me. In time I got used to the match and was on killing sprees and out dueling him in the end.
I have had to face an Kat as well. I believe I was Azir. It's stupid how fast she can get fed from one good gank.
If there was any problem with your match, it's Kat as a champion. Not the player.
Seriphym1 votesIf there was any problem with your match, it's Kat as a champion. Not the player.
^ This Statement is false on its face. The rest was good but this is complete ignorance.
Everything depends upon player skill regardless of how much we as players want to just place the blame on something else.
I face "players" all the time that completely shut me down and make it impossible for me to build nearly anything. They are better than I am and that's just the way it is. Do I have a harder time with some champions? Certainly but regardless of the champion if the player behind it is way below my skill level then I trounce them no problem.
I can agree to a point that it feels hopeless sometimes with the matchmaking system. I often face silvers that "in my mind" I have no business playing against. But if I never played someone who is better than me then I would never get to play LOL.
All I can do is admit to my mistakes and try to learn form them.
Cindikle1 votesKat is an amazing champion at destroying someone less skilled than you.
If the OP was facing most other mids that don't have a crazy high skill ceiling he likely would of done better.
Facing a good/great Kat is a horrible experience when you're learning a new champion. Because she honestly had very little counterplay in most of her kit. Only real counterplay is proper CC timing. Which isn't always easy to get off.
This isn't news.
Probably the closest you can get to a horrible learning experince is facing a plat+ Lee Sin jungle when you're new to the jungle or a plat+ Caitlyn when you're learning ADC. Assuming the ADC doesn't have a horrible support that offsets their skill. But I think facing a Kat that's far above your skill is as bad as it gets unless you're learning a champion that heavily counters her. In which case you'd bet learn quick why you're a counter.
Then again. Seeing as your match history is nothing but Kat. I can see why you'd defend her. If you're having trouble with getting shut down easily, work on your build. WoTa has no place in her kit as everything she has gets reduced effect from it. Her Q is also considered AoE. Since her scaling and base damage on everything but her R is also low, she wont get much HP for even a full combo. Not enough to be worth the budget anyway.
Salidfingers1 votesLol
I was playing against plat at silver 2 a while ago and i destroyed them.
Reason why i remember it so well because my top was bitching and complaining why there is a silver 2 (me) playing with gold 1. Saying in all Chat GG silver vs plat we lost. Yet he gave first blood and i gotten a double kill after.
I gotten 29 LP for that game
So don't look at people ranks.
Then again my main account i am plat :P
WukongMain1 votesyou should be excited to fight higher elos,
if i could be queued with challenger players for a day, it'd be like Christmas all over again.
think of all the things you can learn...
AxlStream1 votesyou should be excited to fight higher elos,
if i could be queued with challenger players for a day, it'd be like Christmas all over again.
think of all the things you can learn...
I can learn how to get stomped and deleted withing 0.5 seconds. All a silver will ever learn from a plat in a regular queue.
