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Best split pushing champs?

LICENSED HOOKER··3 votes·7,555 views

I believe in the gates, no not trick2g feeding i mean as in i enjoy getting objectives vs a team death match...

I'm interested in everything _EXCEPT_the following

![Nasus](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.21.1/img/champion/Nasus.png)  - I play him and its a 50, 50 bet when i do. Either the rest of my team loses and we lose, or the rest of my team wins and we win. I always out scale the opponent laner however i cant 1v5..

![Tryndamere](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.21.1/img/champion/Tryndamere.png)  - why? because im sick and fking tired of random ![Rammus](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.21.1/img/champion/Rammus.png)  + ![item 3075](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.21.1/img/item/3075.png) 

Anyone else got any other, decent wave clear champs that shine..

15 Comments

Roaranor1 votes

Mostly AD:

  • Fiora (after hydra: wave clear, strong duelist)
  • Wukong (after hydra: wave clear, strong late duelist, TDS)
  • Riven (wave clear, duelist)
  • Udyr (phoenix stance path: wave clear, duelist)
  • Talon (after Hydra: wave clear, burst, TDS)
  • Zed (wave clear, burst)
  • Renekton (Hydra not needed but helps: wave clear, strong early duelist)

Mostly AP:

  • Ziggs (wave clear, global ult, TDS)
  • TF (wave clear, global TP, TDS)
  • Kayle (wave clear, duelist)

Hope this helps.

Note: TDS= Turret damaging skill

LICENSED HOOKER1 votes

thank you

TehNACHO1 votes

Shyvana and Nunu have some funny potential, I would like to throw in.

I'm only Silver so I'll be the first to admit the competency of my opponents is questionable at times, but I've managed to win many ranked games using a movement speed build with those two champions.

[Jungle Item] item 3009 item 3172 item 3512 item 3060

item 2137 is hilarious with these champions as well. Entire minion waves sprinting faster than anyone on the enemy team can catch up.

LICENSED HOOKER1 votes

But i want champs that can possibly fight off 1v1.

TehNACHO1 votes

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But i want champs that can possibly fight off 1v1.

Okay Onyx, as a Melee Carry player and all-around asshole of a split pusher, let me be honest with you.

Nobody is going to 1v1 you if you are playing a champion that's strong at 1v1ing. Even by mid silver, most enemy teams are smart enough to send at least squads of 2 against a specialized and/or fed 1v1 fighter to shut them down.

What you want are champions that can take care of themselves in 1v2 (or more) situations. There are still some champions who can do that in fact depending on how fed they are. For example, Raid Boss builds for Trundle, or even Poppy if you ever learn how to get past her atrocious early game. However, in the vast majority of situations, you are either going to get stalled by the enemy team wave clearing under tower or running away because they sent too many members at you at once.

And let me be frank here, a lot of the suggestions already made by everyone else in the thread are good if you are suggesting for 1v1ers, so I'm really not trying to put any of you guys down. But let's be honest here, the vast majority of the champions recommended so far can't handle more than 1 opponent very well.

If you really want to dedicate yourself to split pushing, you need to either be playing a super super suuuuuuper specific champion pool that can Raid Boss the enemy team (Basically, every Tanky damage dealer similar to Nasus, which you say you don't like), or you need to find a way around the problem. Using a movement speed build is how you get around the problem. I know you make fun of Trick2g but this is how he actually gets around for some of his Udyr builds. He knows split pushing's weaknesses and that's why he likes to build Tanky-Movement Speed (and this is also why a lot of lame Trick2g fans tend to immediately fail the moment they rush Tri-Force on Udyr) to get around the problem instead of simply trying to brute force his way through it by "playing a champion that can 1v1 well".

As an off note, if you outlevel everyone in the game and rotate so well that you have more gold than everyone else in the game, your dueling potential with Shyvana doesn't fall off. Nunu? Well yeah he's always an objective control champ; unless you play him AP you really don't have any reason not to criticize his 1v1ing potential, but Shyvana's a Fighter with extremely good base damage; if you keep on everyone's toes by out rotating them and hyper farming, Shyvana's 1v1 potential never actually falls off.

LICENSED HOOKER1 votes

so lets say i wanna try this out, what jungle item do i get for nunu + do i necessarily have to win lane? Follow through on the build stuff.

TouchpadExpert1 votes

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so lets say i wanna try this out, what jungle item do i get for nunu + do i necessarily have to win lane? Follow through on the build stuff.

Runeglaive probably, although cinderhulk isn't a bad choice either. Probably rune glave though because most Nunus build tanky anyway.

LICENSED HOOKER1 votes

so summoner 11 summoner 12 ?

LICENSED HOOKER1 votes

I play nunu jungle so i know how his wave clear is , How do i use his passive on top? Do i save the q for "trades" or do i farm with basics + e? Can i ulti waves? Runes and masteries cause those items arnt the tankiest

TouchpadExpert1 votes

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so summoner 11 summoner 12 ?

Yup. That's what I run on my Rek'sai. Whats funnier is when you have a Teemo top and he plants shrooms and you can teleport onto those too :)

TehNACHO1 votes

I usually get Runeglaive for the CDR.

Beauty of this build, you don't need to win lane. Keep farming and keep eyes on the lanes for anywhere you can rotate through.

stealthfox941 votes

Jax Tryndamere Nasus Jayce Rengar YasuoMalzahar Irelia

Froglord011 votes

Pantheon with a infinity edge orVladimir because of low cooldowns

Randomonium1 votes

Jax JayceIrelia Olaf Renekton Shen Singed Trundle

TouchpadExpert1 votes

There's more than just AD that can split push. I'm going to try and name some champions who haven't been listed yet.

My first split pusher was this guy: Darius He can shove a lane with just tiamat and 1 use of his Q. He's not mobile but he can really push a lane and his damage output is quite good for taking down towers.

Trundle He can really do a significant amount of damage on a tower when left alone... And his Q actually works on the tower.

Jax Should be first on anyone's list for split pushing prowess.

Anivia Her ultimate is all about wiping out minion waves with little to no effort. She can't really take out towers but keep the waves off of her own towers.

MasterYi Can take out up to 5 of the minion wave when he gets enough AD using 1 Q ability, but what he really excels at is backdooring the turrets.

Malzahar Late game when he gets enough AP all he has to do is cast E on anything that isn't a super minion and let his space AIDs wreck havok on the wave. Then make his way out to another lane and repeat the process.

Udyr If Udyr maxes out his Tiger, Turtle and Phoenix stances he has all the tools he needs to split push. Phoenix for the wave clear, Tiger for the tower take downs and Turtle for tanking/sustaining. And he can get his aspect of the monkey to 3 stacks and has some pretty good speed through that.

Shen Is actually not a great split pusher. He is item reliant. If you build statik shiv and luden's echo he can push out waves but without this he is not very good at it.

Ryze Can't forget about the spell spammer. His main purpose is to spam spells and clear out massive waves of minions. Oh and he's tanky to boot.

Vladimir Vladimir is just like Malzahar and Ryze. Stick him in the middle of a massive minion wave for a good 5-8 seconds and the whole wave will be gone. And he doesn't use mana and with a hextech revolver can actually heal off minion waves by doing this.

RekSai Lastly is Rek'sai. Her Queen's wrath has some decent AOE wave clear. But her ultimate is where it's at. She can push top lane, see a gank incoming and head bot lane and shove out there too. She may even take out a tower before the enemy team can make their way back to where she is. And when they do she can just teleport right back to top lane on one of her tunnels or a ward and take that tower too.

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