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Champion which has a poke, an escape, and good durability, and ok speed?

Davethaboss··1 votes·6,636 views

Hello friends! Please before I begin to not be harsh on me for posting this in the wrong section or if this was covered before. Many people give me different responses so... So I am asking you guys whigh champion in the game has a some sort of poke, some sort of escape, good starting health and armor, and ok speed? See I really liked pantheon but he gets useless because he's squishy. With that said which champion do you guys play with that fit this description? By escape I also mean some sort of stun or disable which may allow you to escape. Ok movement speed for the sake of juking. Ok with that said cheers! Again please be easy on me this community gets quite hostile sometimes....

18 Comments

Koechophe4 votes

Let me give a bit of analysis here.

Two of the things you asked for (Poke and Durability) are very seldom on the same champion, for pretty obvious reasons. That, and you asked for basically every attribute except for cc. So here are the champs I came up with.

Lee: Best example of good mobility and durability mixed with escapes, but lacking somewhat in decent poke

Mundo: Excellent durability and good poke, pretty good speed and can generally escape okay, but lacking somewhat in mobility

Jayce: Excellent poke and good mobility, lacking somewhat in durability but more durable than the average ranged champ

Nidalee: Great poke and escape as well as sustain that turns out good durability, but squishier than the rest of the choices.

Hope this will help.

EndlessSorcerer2 votes

I'll second Mundo. Cleaver poke can be pretty annoying, he's durable as heck, and his ultimate gives him good movement speed for chasing and escapes (which goes well combined with his cleaver's slow).

Aatrox isn't too bad using E to poke, Q to chase/escape, and sustain-tanking a lot of damage if he isn't bursted.

Elise (when built with Magic Pen and tank items) has good poke (hQ, hW), good mobility (sE), and is very durable with reliable damage.

Gragas with Rod of Ages and Iceborn Gauntlet is pretty tanky, Liandry's Torment can help his poke, and he's very mobile with some CDR.

Galio is passable, but I'm not sure how badly he was hurt by the Season 5 changes (Athene's Unholy Grail, etc).

Yorick is durable, has a movespeed boost, gets very tanky and has innate sustain, and can poke enemies (though the range is a bit short later in the game).

Onegarion1 votes

I'd throw gnar into this too. Gnar with both forms does cover most of what OP wants.

Cale0171 votes

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I'd throw gnar into this too. Gnar with both forms does cover most of what OP wants.

True, but it isn't really consistent enough and you don't have the option to do all of those things at any time. His CC and durability are all heavily reliant on his mega form, but there's no denying that his mini has quite a bit of poke and mobility.

Cale0171 votes

{quoted}

Let me give a bit of analysis here.

Two of the things you asked for (Poke and Durability) are very seldom on the same champion, for pretty obvious reasons. That, and you asked for basically every attribute except for cc. So here are the champs I came up with.

Lee: Best example of good mobility and durability mixed with escapes, but lacking somewhat in decent poke

Mundo: Excellent durability and good poke, pretty good speed and can generally escape okay, but lacking somewhat in mobility

Jayce: Excellent poke and good mobility, lacking somewhat in durability but more durable than the average ranged champ

Nidalee: Great poke and escape as well as sustain that turns out good durability, but squishier than the rest of the choices.

Hope this will help.

This guy got it about right.

Lee Sin has some solid durability with his shield and his sustain. His Q actually REALLY hurts if you go straight AD, but I wouldn't call it much in the way of poke since you don't really want to go for straight AD. It's more like set up for the rest of his "kill you" combo. He has a somewhat situational escape off his W if you have a ward handy, and you can juke to an oncoming minion wave with his Q if you feel like burning it.

Mundo I kinda disagree with. His poke comes entirely from Cleaver, which is actually super easy to dodge and isn't going to hurt a whole lot unless he's building heavy AP, not that I haven't seen that on occasion. Mundo may go where he pleases, but he isn't going to get there very fast.

Jayce is a good example, probably the second best poke on here. In addition you're encouraged to mix durability into his build, but your priority is usually offenses. He has a decent escape with his gate in cannon form, that MS boost is pretty significant, but not a whole lot of CC to speak of.

Nidalee's probably the best one listed here, and the one I'd recommend personally. The poke on her Q is simply enormous provided you know how to land it. Her mobility is insane considering the short cooldown on her Pounce. Taking her top lane and building her as a bruiser gives her a surprising amount of durability while keeping her damage still really high. Pounce also gives her a pretty okay escape, even if it's not the greatest thing in the world. She's pretty speedy too, especially when in a bush or chasing a Q marked target. On top of all that she has a nifty heal/AS buff.

Nid's probably got the most loaded kit out of these based on what you're looking for, mostly because she doesn't need to drop a ward or Q to a far off minion to have an escape option like Lee Sin, but he has just the most loaded kit in general usage hands down.

BewareTheDragon11 votes

I have to point out that mundo's cleaver does %current health damage, it doesn't actually scale with anything

Davethaboss1 votes

Exactly man, your comment has made me want to get her and just maybe mundo, I still can't decide. Then gnar is on my radar. Thanks for the help everyone!

Leti the Yeti3 votes

It souds like you want a champion who can do EVERYTHING well obvious winner here is Lee Sin!

now in all honestly, no champion can do everything,** fast moving durable range pokers with cc is not a thing** gnar can do everything but not at the same time, uncontrollable transformation n all

TehNACHO1 votes

If you learn how to manipulate his form changing in a way favorable for yourself, Gnar fits the bill as a sort of jack of all trades.

I'm rather curious as to what makes you think Pantheon is squishy though. He's innately powerful against people who rely on big heavy auto attacks and his kit is designed to allow for bruiser builds, making him decently tanky through itemization.

Davethaboss1 votes

I found him squishy after I realized when my team were wiped out and I was escaping and I had no escape, I ran under turret and I was demolished by vayne and ashe. Keep in mind I built a great deal of tankiness. However I will probablly get nidalee then gnar afterwards.

TehNACHO1 votes

Oh, Vayne.

That's a really unfair matchup to judge him by. Vayne is designed to kill tanks extremely quickly.

The Chin1 votes

Azir Gragas Gnar Lissandra Lulu Quinn Vladimir Zed

DWT123451 votes

zed has some poke, with a great escape with a burst as well. Not a good investment though, he prob will get nerfed

Klax002saur1 votes

I'm gonna interpret your wants very loosely so you have a larger selection of champs off the top of my head. All champs listed have some form of poke, some form of escape, and movement speed is similar after boots are bought. I ignored the tank/durability requirement because it's dependent on what you build, not on the champions specifically (for the most part.) Pretty much all ADC's fit the stats you listed minus the tank side of things. Any champ can be tanky via itemization/playstyle.

Zed Ahri KassadinGnar Gragas Katarina Leblanc Lissandra Nidalee TwistedFate Tristana Zilean Azir Chogath Corki Galio Jayce LeeSin Kennen Nocturne Shen Ziggs Caitlyn

big boi edri1 votes

Karma with her shield? That's a lot to have on one 1 champ.

Sounds like you would have loved Khazix when his ult reduced damage.

I haven't seen her listed, but you might like Elise

Duke Anax1 votes

Not sure why you consider Pantheon to be squishy, he has one of the highest armors in the game and pretty good health, also scaling MR. That without being classified as a Tank. Of yourse all champs are gonna be squishy lategame though if you don't give them any defense.

Give him item 3047 for armor, one or two of the MR blades:item 3156 item 3139, a item 3071 for health and item 3146 for sustain and hes pretty sturdy without sacrificing much damage.

Dryditch1 votes

Go ahead and grab Malphite with red smite.

He doesn't really have an escape, but he does have a MS slow and an AOE AS slow, plus an incredible engage tool or potential wall jumping escape on his ult. Built tanky with some AP in there (IBG), Mal's got awesome poke on the Q.

Nocturne

Nocturne, with one or two armor/MR items, is a really nice and durable jungler. He doesn't have a traditional escape, but a WQ combo is great for getting out of range of attacks, and an E will seriously screw up anyone attempting to kill you if they can't beat the clock. Many will simply run, which lets you disengage.

MrPerson101 votes

Considering you're looking for everything in one champ, there are none. The obvious closest winner? Lee sin. If you're looking for a lane option, Gnar. They're about the closest you'll ever get to having a full kit

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