Time to change history! Time to change or remove LeaverBuster.

Davethaboss·Mar 17, 2015·2 votes·1,736 views

I wanted to write a rant but I thought fck it because riot games will never respond to us. I am done with this bs. My grandfather comes from a foreign country and I quit the game cause I have to. My sister falls down the stairs and hurts herself I quit the game. So you are going to give me a waiting time of 20 minutes every single time even though I played 15-20 games without quiting at all! What the hell is this!

Now my friends this is where you come in. We can change history and get rid of or CHANGE this system. I thought we could get rid of it as a whole and allow teams the chance to 're do games if someone ragequits instead of putting the whole team through hell regardless if there's that one guy who never surrenders. This will probablly never happen.

I ask upon those of you who play this game to please help our cause. I don't even play ranked and I play for fun. I ask for all of you tryhards and "nerds" who value this game too highly to refrain from starting a flame war in the comments. The only way shit will change if we have enough people complaining about it. I want this thread to be extremely popular so we can finally remove the damned leaverbuster.... I have seen enough of these threads and this is where it hopefully ends.

So with that said I would love it if everyone just please post your views. Talk about anything you want as long as our cause is heard! Riot games only listens to the pros, this time we will change that. If this doesn't work which is a high chance there are other means to persuade riot Games.

Thank you my friends!

26 Comments

mvargusMar 17, 20155 votes

15-20 games is enough?

Dude, I'm closing in on 400 games played and there have been 2 times I dropped from a game and both were because the client crashed. Both times I did all I could to be logged back in within 5 minutes. Sadly, my team was never able to recover from one of those crashes. Sorry, but being in 20 straight games without ragequitting isn't going to impress most players. Try increasing that by a factor of 10 and people might care.

Now, your 2 events appear to include one where you had some forewarning. (grandfather coming for a visit) If that is happening, perhaps it would be wise to not log in when he's going to visit.

On the second where your sister was hurt. I do hope she is feeling better. That one I can't hold against you as real emergencies do exist.

HOWEVER, 20 minute leavebusters are for people who have dropped from 3 or more games in a short period. So this has not just been 2 times. First time the penalty is 5 minutes, the second is 10.

Sorry, but I can't support your rant. Leaverbuster might not be perfect, but I've yet to meet someone under its punishment that didn't drop from a game.

DavethabossMar 17, 20151 votes

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15-20 games is enough?

Dude, I'm closing in on 400 games played and there have been 2 times I dropped from a game and both were because the client crashed. Both times I did all I could to be logged back in within 5 minutes. Sadly, my team was never able to recover from one of those crashes. Sorry, but being in 20 straight games without ragequitting isn't going to impress most players. Try increasing that by a factor of 10 and people might care.

Now, your 2 events appear to include one where you had some forewarning. (grandfather coming for a visit) If that is happening, perhaps it would be wise to not log in when he's going to visit.

On the second where your sister was hurt. I do hope she is feeling better. That one I can't hold against you as real emergencies do exist.

HOWEVER, 20 minute leavebusters are for people who have dropped from 3 or more games in a short period. So this has not just been 2 times. First time the penalty is 5 minutes, the second is 10.

Sorry, but I can't support your rant. Leaverbuster might not be perfect, but I've yet to meet someone under its punishment that didn't drop from a game.

Ok this reply I like a lot better. I am not even close to 150 games being played which shows how casual I am. And yes I did have forewarning but he came earlier than expected that's on me.

I'm not ranting but asking for support. I just want a change that's all.

DavethabossMar 18, 20151 votes

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15-20 games is enough?

Dude, I'm closing in on 400 games played and there have been 2 times I dropped from a game and both were because the client crashed. Both times I did all I could to be logged back in within 5 minutes. Sadly, my team was never able to recover from one of those crashes. Sorry, but being in 20 straight games without ragequitting isn't going to impress most players. Try increasing that by a factor of 10 and people might care.

Now, your 2 events appear to include one where you had some forewarning. (grandfather coming for a visit) If that is happening, perhaps it would be wise to not log in when he's going to visit.

On the second where your sister was hurt. I do hope she is feeling better. That one I can't hold against you as real emergencies do exist.

HOWEVER, 20 minute leavebusters are for people who have dropped from 3 or more games in a short period. So this has not just been 2 times. First time the penalty is 5 minutes, the second is 10.

Sorry, but I can't support your rant. Leaverbuster might not be perfect, but I've yet to meet someone under its punishment that didn't drop from a game.

Wait so instead of DC'ing I can just AFK at base and NOT get bs' d with leaverbuster?

Ice Weasel XMar 18, 20151 votes

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Wait so instead of DC'ing I can just AFK at base and NOT get bs' d with leaverbuster?

Nope. LeaverBuster also detects this sort of behavior. I've seen trolls pacing back and forth and casting spells at the spawn point to try and avoid penalties for quitting a game, but they still had red names in post-game chat.

DavethabossMar 18, 20151 votes

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Nope. LeaverBuster also detects this sort of behavior. I've seen trolls pacing back and forth and casting spells at the spawn point to try and avoid penalties for quitting a game, but they still had red names in post-game chat.

It's all good friend, I found a way. Like the saying goes "when there's a will there's a way". thanks for the help friend!

Deep Terror NamiMar 17, 20153 votes

Nucleophilic atkMar 17, 20153 votes

You could just not leave games. That seems to work pretty well with avoiding leaverbuster.

KiroTapzMar 17, 20152 votes

leaving a game in progress affects at least 4 people. Vote of a Negative/No to change. If life interferes, then that is how it goes. for the listed above reasons, i don;t see why the 20 min timer would be a problem. if your sister fell down thestairs, i imagine you'd conceivably be with her for a few minutes. and 20 minutes is the length of an average game of 3v3. so leave a game.. lose access to 1 game worth of time.

TeemoJenkinsMar 17, 20152 votes

You had 2 emergencies, had to leave, so the better questions becomes: This won't happen again reasonably, so why does it matter? Take your priority queue lumps and get back in the game, it's worth it for your family, right?

Sona PingMar 17, 20152 votes

Sorry to hear about your sister, man. Hope it's not serious and that she gets better quickly.

On topic:

even though I played 15-20 games without quiting at all! "15-20"

I've found the reason you were put in that queue.

DavethabossMar 17, 20151 votes

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Sorry to hear about your sister, man. Hope it's not serious and that she gets better quickly.

On topic: "15-20"

I've found the reason you were put in that queue.

Care to elaborate?

FHMarshyMar 17, 20152 votes

20 minutes queue time only comes after 5 min and 10 min.

You must have quit quite a few more.

DavethabossMar 17, 20151 votes

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20 minutes queue time only comes after 5 min and 10 min.

You must have quit quite a few more.

Is it not reasonable to reduce the timer a bit? I rarely come on the forums and wanted to address this.

FHMarshyMar 17, 20151 votes

You need to quit a certain % of the recent game to be put into the 5 min priority queue, and after that you will need to quit another few games to be put into 10 min priority, then you will need to quit another few games to be put where you are.

No sympathy for you for quittting that many games lol

WukongMainMar 17, 20151 votes

idk man, i currently have Leaverbuster, and i did not leave any games... im legit confused. did i just get trolled or something? and my team report me for afk, when i clearly wasn't?

i'm suffering a 20minute wait timer for something i'm not guilty of.

I'm experiencing what colored people have been experiencing for decades. (Centuries?)

DavethabossMar 17, 20151 votes

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idk man, i currently have Leaverbuster, and i did not leave any games... im legit confused. did i just get trolled or something? and my team report me for afk, when i clearly wasn't?

i'm suffering a 20minute wait timer for something i'm not guilty of.

I'm experiencing what colored people have been experiencing for decades. (Centuries?)

My Lord only person who has the same issue as me. Unfortunately our judgement still continues...

WukongMainMar 17, 20151 votes

its... i got no words for it lol

DavethabossMar 17, 20151 votes

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its... i got no words for it lol

Please my friend. We need your support. We need YOUR words.

WukongMainMar 17, 20151 votes

Leaverbuster is like having your friends drugs in your coat pocket.... You're currently getting trolled by a "Friend" and, are now being punished for it by law. and imprisoned inside a 20 minute queue timer

Ice Weasel XMar 17, 20151 votes

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I wanted to write a rant but I thought fck it because riot games will never respond to us. I am done with this bs. My grandfather comes from a foreign country and I quit the game cause I have to. My sister falls down the stairs and hurts herself I quit the game. So you are going to give me a waiting time of 20 minutes every single time even though I played 15-20 games without quiting at all! What the hell is this!

If you have a family emergency so frequently that you leave games all the time, stop playing. Your family is more important. You don't get hit with penalties for occasional exits. 15-20 games of not quitting is not an accomplishment. If you think it is, then you are definitely a frequent quitter.

Now my friends this is where you come in. We can change history and get rid of or CHANGE this system. I thought we could get rid of it as a whole and allow teams the chance to 're do games if someone ragequits instead of putting the whole team through hell regardless if there's that one guy who never surrenders. This will probablly never happen.

That won't happen, because it just causes more of the same problems, but it would take longer for any games to finish. Players could coerce a teammate to ragequit and get a redo. Someone could "take one for the team" and cause a redo. Great, now you get to start over, but that means this one game has stretched on for even longer... and if you were getting stomped the first time, you'll probably get stomped the second time.

I ask upon those of you who play this game to please help our cause. I don't even play ranked and I play for fun. I ask for all of you tryhards and "nerds" who value this game too highly to refrain from starting a flame war in the comments. The only way shit will change if we have enough people complaining about it. I want this thread to be extremely popular so we can finally remove the damned leaverbuster.... I have seen enough of these threads and this is where it hopefully ends.

You just fired the first shots by calling people tryhards and nerds, so don't ask people not to respond. "I want to play in your pool and pee in it, but if I see any of you dorks peeing in it too, THAT'S OUT OF LINE!"

So with that said I would love it if everyone just please post your views. Talk about anything you want as long as our cause is heard! Riot games only listens to the pros, this time we will change that. If this doesn't work which is a high chance there are other means to persuade riot Games.

No, Riot doesn't merely listen to the pros. You think the pros would even have jobs if not for the support of the playerbase? None of them would be worth hiring. Riot listens to the community. That doesn't mean they have to bend to demands with which they don't agree.

DavethabossMar 17, 20151 votes

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If you have a family emergency so frequently that you leave games all the time, stop playing. Your family is more important. You don't get hit with penalties for occasional exits. 15-20 games of not quitting is not an accomplishment. If you think it is, then you are definitely a frequent quitter.

That won't happen, because it just causes more of the same problems, but it would take longer for any games to finish. Players could coerce a teammate to ragequit and get a redo. Someone could "take one for the team" and cause a redo. Great, now you get to start over, but that means this one game has stretched on for even longer... and if you were getting stomped the first time, you'll probably get stomped the second time.

You just fired the first shots by calling people tryhards and nerds, so don't ask people not to respond. "I want to play in your pool and pee in it, but if I see any of you dorks peeing in it too, THAT'S OUT OF LINE!"

No, Riot doesn't merely listen to the pros. You think the pros would even have jobs if not for the support of the playerbase? None of them would be worth hiring. Riot listens to the community. That doesn't mean they have to bend to demands with which they don't agree.

I'm afraid the nerds and tryhards do exist. I play blind pick for Christ's sake. Is there any way to remove the leaverbuster system for those of us who are casual Gamers? And I'm not trying to bend anyone at all. I'm asking for feedback which I'm getting. Plus I will be fine with this system if they can reduce the timer. It's extrememly aggravating and you can not relate because you don't have this issue unfortunatelly. there has only been one person here who has the same issue as me Plus I refer to all of you as my friends. I hope everyone understands this.

I read your message again. I realized you feel that I'm a frequent quitter? I want to say so many bad things right now but I won't. This game should be like cod and other MAINSTREAM TITLES with how their ragequit system worksejecnever quit a game because I was losing to hard. NEVER.

Ice Weasel XMar 17, 20151 votes

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I'm afraid the nerds and tryhards do exist. I play blind pick for Christ's sake. Is there any way to remove the leaverbuster system for those of us who are casual Gamers? And I'm not trying to bend anyone at all. I'm asking for feedback which I'm getting. Plus I will be fine with this system if they can reduce the timer. It's extrememly aggravating and you can not relate because you don't have this issue unfortunatelly. there has only been one person here who has the same issue as me Plus I refer to all of you as my friends. I hope everyone understands this.

You tried to sound grand and unifying with this as if it were a call to arms, and yet you're sticking to your "nerds and tryhards" pejoratives. Guess what? The majority of players want to win, even filthy unranked casuals like myself. You're insulting a large portion of your intended support audience. The LeaverBuster system was implemented because of player outrage over ditched games.

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I read your message again. I realized you feel that I'm a frequent quitter?

Yep.

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So you are going to give me a waiting time of 20 minutes every single time even though I played 15-20 games without quiting at all! What the hell is this!

If you think 15-20 games without quitting is remarkable, I wouldn't be surprised to find that you quit 1 in 10.

DavethabossMar 17, 20151 votes

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You tried to sound grand and unifying with this as if it were a call to arms, and yet you're sticking to your "nerds and tryhards" pejoratives. Guess what? The majority of players want to win, even filthy unranked casuals like myself. You're insulting a large portion of your intended support audience. The LeaverBuster system was implemented because of player outrage over ditched games.

Yep.

If you think 15-20 games without quitting is remarkable, I wouldn't be surprised to find that you quit 1 in 10.

"Facepalm" I think we got off on the wrong foot friend. I am just asking for a change to reduce the timer. It's amazing how angry people get about people dc'ing. I do not care at all if it happens I just keep playing.

My friend I am just asking for a reduction in my timer. I do not need your approval whatsoever I just needed your feedback on how to change or remove that's all.

Plus I tried to join a friends lobby after my timer went up just to wait another 20 minutes in his normal game/party. Lol.

ActuallyArrowMar 17, 20151 votes

If it is a family thing (chore, greeting, etc.), just go AFK. Teammates usually understand "brb" means you have no other choice but to do something (especially if you are quick about it). I believe you usually have 5 minutes to get back to the match before Leaver Buster gives you a penalty (I could be wrong, I haven't tried it yet :P). That is plenty of time to say hi to gramps. In the case of your sister, I am sure Riot would completely understand the situation if you submit a ticket to them (if you got penalized). Riot isn't heartless.

Frequently leaving is a bad thing for you and anyone you play with. While I don't agree people should get banned (for occasional disconnects, not frequent), I believe they should be put on low priority (if League even has this, I know DOTA does). I think Riot should make a something like "safe-disconnect", meaning every set amount of games (say, every 50 games?) you are allowed one disconnect (and no more than one). But that is just an idea.

They should NEVER remove the Leaver Buster. Otherwise every game would pretty much just be: "Omfg you guys suck A summoner has disconnected" or "Top or disconnect". Removing Leaver Buster would mean the game would be ruined. This game is about putting hours into. You should only play it when you are 100% sure you can finish a game before you have to do something (I generally leave 40 minutes open for Summoner's Rift, and 30 for ARAM, and after each game make sure I have everything done before starting another).

Ranked games should have a more strict Leaver Buster system than Normals/Co-op. Because Ranked means more. In ranked, people are actually trying to win (well, usually), and you disconnecting could cost them the entire game. Don't play ranked unless you are 100% you have over an hour of free time to spend on each game (not that each game lasts that long, but it does happen so safety precaution would be needed).

There is room for improvements for it, but there is no real need to change it. It's not some huge movement that needs voices to be heard, or a reason to brandish our pitch-forks. Any system has room for improvements, I believe that much. But unless it is a really negative system, there is really no need to change it.

DavethabossMar 17, 20151 votes

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If it is a family thing (chore, greeting, etc.), just go AFK. Teammates usually understand "brb" means you have no other choice but to do something (especially if you are quick about it). I believe you usually have 5 minutes to get back to the match before Leaver Buster gives you a penalty (I could be wrong, I haven't tried it yet :P). That is plenty of time to say hi to gramps. In the case of your sister, I am sure Riot would completely understand the situation if you submit a ticket to them (if you got penalized). Riot isn't heartless.

Frequently leaving is a bad thing for you and anyone you play with. While I don't agree people should get banned (for occasional disconnects, not frequent), I believe they should be put on low priority (if League even has this, I know DOTA does). I think Riot should make a something like "safe-disconnect", meaning every set amount of games (say, every 50 games?) you are allowed one disconnect (and no more than one). But that is just an idea.

They should NEVER remove the Leaver Buster. Otherwise every game would pretty much just be: "Omfg you guys suck A summoner has disconnected" or "Top or disconnect". Removing Leaver Buster would mean the game would be ruined. This game is about putting hours into. You should only play it when you are 100% sure you can finish a game before you have to do something (I generally leave 40 minutes open for Summoner's Rift, and 30 for ARAM, and after each game make sure I have everything done before starting another).

Ranked games should have a more strict Leaver Buster system than Normals/Co-op. Because Ranked means more. In ranked, people are actually trying to win (well, usually), and you disconnecting could cost them the entire game. Don't play ranked unless you are 100% you have over an hour of free time to spend on each game (not that each game lasts that long, but it does happen so safety precaution would be needed).

There is room for improvements for it, but there is no real need to change it. It's not some huge movement that needs voices to be heard, or a reason to brandish our pitch-forks. Any system has room for improvements, I believe that much. But unless it is a really negative system, there is really no need to change it.

I appreciate your feedback friend and I will utilize your advice at the start. I also agree with you on ranked because on my friends account I would never play ranked if I knew I would DC. You are allowed to get pissed off about that.

I am just annoyed how high the timer is for DC. Look at it like this... I have one hour and half to play before I go to work. If I waste 20 minutes I then have an hour. And a match usually lasts 30-40 minutes 20 if I'm lucky. So I then have to wait another 20 minutes for my next match and then I have to go to work or whenever my boss calls me because this is how my job works. Let's say I do have a short game however I will still wait 20 minutes and then prob DC when I have to leave. All of this is done in normal please keep in mind. So what is your opinion? 5-10 minutes fine. Not 20, I will rebel against that.

ActuallyArrowMar 17, 20152 votes

Leaving at any point, regardless as to how much you contributed, could ruin your team. That is why the Leaver Buster exists.

If you are playing before work, I suggest only playing one game and however long it lasts that is all you get. That way you have plenty of time to finish the game in an hour and a half.