Champions which do not require combos to do damage?

Davethaboss·1/1/2015, 6:33:27 AM·2 votes·6,905 views

Where do I start? To begin with I hate the normal stun, then hit your keyboard as fast as you can to get the spells after it off or whatever combo of buttons you have to hit. Some examples of the champions which require combos in order to do anything are veigar, jax, pantheon, brand, etc... I may be overexagerating here but, I despise having to use one skill then the next two others because I HAVE too. Hopefully you guys can relate. My whole issue is that it gets quite repetitive doing the same combos over and over again. The one champion that doesn't do it as much is blitzcrank and xerath. Another point I want to add is that, I would like to have certain options in tackling a situation instead of my veigar e,w,q! Over and over again. Same applies to pantheon when diving or going for a kill. My point being that I can use some spells in different scenarios making them versatile. Thanks in advance guys!

30 Comments

RiotPhreak1/2/2015, 10:31:20 AM3 votes

Hmm, champions with more flowy patterns...

Shaco's abilities are all fairly situational in use, though you do have somewhat of a core combo.

Heimerdinger does that as well. You sort of play around your turrets, and sometimes you want to do E->W, but not always.

The more I think about it, I agree with LeagueSrsBsns, most champions flagged as "Mage" and "Assassin" tend to be burst/combo oriented. Most of the rest have more varied cooldowns and situations.

Warcri1/1/2015, 8:31:52 AM1 votes

I'm a little confused about your opinion of Blitzcrank O_O

He's literally Q..grab-W-E-R straight off the bat; all game, every game.

But, I do agree that Udyr may be somebody you're interested in. Or most ADCs/a lot of supports (Janna, Sona). It just doesn't seem like playing mids/assassins is your thing.

pE4CbxDPQO1/1/2015, 8:41:26 AM1 votes

ziggs doesn't have a true combo velkoz can survive without comboing, but would be best to follow it

F33dMeKills1/1/2015, 9:55:26 AM1 votes

Katarina is free of combos.

1.) Shunpo can be used for: Reaching terrains that normally no other champions can really do, reduce a small amount of damage for a period, catching enemies, and etc.

2.) Her Sinister Steel can actually be quite useful and has many purposes.

Now there are more useful stuff, but those 2 skills are like, free.

The Annie Christ1/1/2015, 11:27:18 AM1 votes

Its just how some champs are made man. Some champs theres more to it but its just the way it is.

Glaceon1/1/2015, 3:04:16 PM1 votes

veigar combo is W and then stun because of merc treads.

The deal with the combos is that pulling them off makes you feel accomplished AND that it usually results in a revealing of weakness - making it more fun to play against the combo oriented. Isn't it hilarious to watch lee sin fail his high-impact antics and then die to singed... or get auto attacked to death by alistar because he's defenseless now?

"this assassin's cooldowns are all up - I can fight them now!"Talon

"I landed that entire combo, turning the fight around for my team. Yes!" Veigar

fdissht1/1/2015, 9:08:08 PM1 votes

You don't have to always combo. You say blitz has no combo but his combo is Q>E>R yet you can also W>E>R>Q or W>E>Q>R or whatever.

For brand, yes he is combo reliant, but you can mix it up like E>Q>W or Q>W or R>Q>W>E or R>W>E>Q or R>W>Q>E.....well you get the picture

Most (if not all) champions have combos, it just depends on how you use it, infact the champions where you HAVE to use one combo is rare.

Davethaboss1/1/2015, 10:28:44 PM1 votes

Didn't know my examples enraged some of you guys. Blitzcrank I like because I can simply grab someone for my team to slaughter or do some damage. Blitzs w is good for chasing and running. Also used for taking turrets down. His e is good for knocking enemies who have used their combos up and then using w to get away. E also stuns the enemy for your team to kill. As you can tell, blitz's abilities have many uses. That's basically what I'm looking for. I am not looking for a simple q, then w, and then e. I want a champion who's abilities have multiple uses which results in I guess you could say different combos instead of the same one. Thanks for the responses guys. Also the reason I like blitzcrank abilities is because I can save some up when in a fight instead bashing all of them while in battle like some assassins when they use all their abilities and are on cool down they are susceptible to being killed.

Another note: I'm not looking for the most OP champion. Just looking for one that's fun and can use different abilities different times. Hopefully you guys can relate.

Leblancs Boob1/1/2015, 10:36:35 PM1 votes

Evelynn

Declined1/2/2015, 1:59:52 PM1 votes

Draven !

All basic attacks if you want to deal damage, only requirement is that you're good at juggling axes.

Nuff said.

xu1D7eJdSi1/2/2015, 7:28:26 PM1 votes

Sounds kinda like you want a poking champion, since you said udyr wasn't quite your flavor.

Ziggs might be what you want, His aas do damage, and he can use his w and e defensively. Granted a lot of his damage is in his Q.

Karma is another good option, as all of her spells have offensive and defensive purposes, But again a lot of what you'll be doing is poking with Q.

Rumble is another one. Again, very focused on the Q, but you can use your e to poke from a distance, and both his E and Q do tons of damage with the right items. Plus his ult is always great. Another interesting thing about Rumble is managing his heat. What you might like is that even when overheated he still does damage in his autos.

The last guy I can think of is Gnar. Simply put he's never really repetitive because of his passive's unpredictability. His laning is a lot of poking with Q and then going in with E to finish them off with W, where his team fight is jumping in and ulting, but because of his unpredictable nature you never exactly know what situation you'll find yourself in.

I think you may find it hard to find a champion that has absolutely no combos, as usually champion kits are made so they have synergy between abilities.

Centuros1/2/2015, 10:11:01 PM1 votes

Zilean. His damage is simply get Q on an enemy. You can also double-Q if that isn't too much of a combo for you, but you don't have to. Also, you can Q a minion, and everything else is utility.

BrofessorF1/3/2015, 12:02:13 AM1 votes

If you want a decent top laner who isnt combo oriented, id have to say Trundle might be a good choice, he favors more sustained fighting than bursting someone down, only combo trundle really looks for is if they are low health you want to throw your w so you can get to them, r-aa-q-aa and throw your e down when they lack an escape so you can catch them again

Hyrum Graff1/3/2015, 9:36:38 PM1 votes

Karmaaaa! Figuring out what ult to use in what situation is loads of fun. Although, if you complete a tether for the root, you'll feel like you need to land a Q.

Leti the Yeti1/1/2015, 6:37:58 AM1 votes

if ur telling me you arent doing blitzs QWER combo, somethings wrong if ur telling me you arent doing Xeraths QWE combo, somethings wrong

also Udyr sounds like that non combo champ you can kill just about anyone with any of your skills, some more efficient than others all of em can be standalone useful for various scenarios.. tanking, chasing, clearing, dueling

while having synergy with each other... like bear and turtle spamming as you run for your life or phoenix and turtle spamming as you clear for your life or bear and tiger spamming as you chase for their life

and wtf, you do not need to land jax's stun to do anything.. just get phage and spam W and AA for days and hop on em when they get too far away its totally optional for you to stun them beforehand.. and its just way more efficient

NullDragon1/4/2015, 6:55:32 AM1 votes

Unsure on what you want. Do you just want lack of combos? Look for weak synergy on champions abilities then. Combos are generally indicative of high synergy, and thus, similar use cases, yeah. Or using one ability sets up another.

Are using different spells in different situations important? Karma is heavily based around her Q poke gameplay, supplemented by W and E. None of her abilities explicitly combo into each other, however, and her ult gives her three different situational abilities like heimerdinger.

Is a primary focus on positioning and autoattacks fine? Almost all ADCs except Twitch, Lucian, and Graves qualify for that.

It's generally hard to find a champion without some sort of fallback spell/ability or without good synergy between two of their skills, however.