There's nothing about this in their tool tips. They supposedly deal damage over time - so why do they also straight up remove all healing from their targets? Why do BOTH of these items do that, rather than only one of them?
3xChampionLance3 votesoh damn i cant believe theres items that counter other items!
Barkley1 votesbasically what I was gonna say
Frontline Fury1 votesoh damn i cant believe theres items that counter other items!
They do not counter other items, though. They counter everything. They're must-have items in every winning team comp, even if no opponents have any sort of healing whatsoever.
They're basically two items for the price of one - they should only have one of these effects, not both of them.
2Charmnot2Charm2 votesWhats stupid is that it 100% stops healing instead of just reducing heal effectiveness
Teh Song1 votes...they don't.
Healing HP+ is put against DoT hp-, both are happening. If one of those numbers is bigger than the other you aren't going to see them both happening, it will just look like the one is.
Thefrostyviking2 votes[{quoted}](name=Teh Song,realm=NA,application-id=RaE1aOE7,discussion-id=xj5TdZZn,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-21T15:04:59.319+0000)
...they don't.
Healing HP+ is put against DoT hp-, both are happening. If one of those numbers is bigger than the other you aren't going to see them both happening, it will just look like the one is.
They do actually, google any TFT item sheet and read the item description there, or google something like "lol tft (item name)".
You can stack 3 warmogs on a guy and he wont regen squat if affected, heck they even take damage.
Teh Song1 votesThey do actually, google any TFT item sheet and read the item description there, or google something like "lol tft (item name)".
You can stack 3 warmogs on a guy and he wont regen squat if affected, heck they even take damage.
I have an item sheet saved, and it clear as day says "deals burn damage" on both of them without mentioning anything about stopping healing. Red buff says "Attacks deal 25% burn damage" and nothing else, the book says "Spells apply burn for 5% of enemies max HP/s" and nothing else. No mention of Grievous Wounds on either.
Remni Strath3 votesThen your sheet is outdated, as they recently changed them in 9.13 to stop healing too
Z3SIeeper2 votesThey've actually always done that afaik, atleast on live servers.
Thefrostyviking1 votes[{quoted}](name=Teh Song,realm=NA,application-id=RaE1aOE7,discussion-id=xj5TdZZn,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-21T18:02:49.460+0000)
I have an item sheet saved, and it clear as day says "deals burn damage" on both of them without mentioning anything about stopping healing. Red buff says "Attacks deal 25% burn damage" and nothing else, the book says "Spells apply burn for 5% of enemies max HP/s" and nothing else. No mention of Grievous Wounds on either.
Barkley1 votestry tftactics.gg
or.... OR..... try reading the tooltip in-game.
Velzard of Koz1 votesTry keeping in track with their patches? They added anti-healing last patch. EDIT: nevermind, looks like they rolled back the change given that their opwn patchnotes doesn't state it. Or they forgot about it. EDIT: Yops the blitz looks outdated even the morello dmg is off. EDIT: Finally found where I saw it. Scarra's cheat sheet, from the time of PBE TFT.
Thefrostyviking1 votestry tftactics.gg
or.... OR..... try reading the tooltip in-game.
You think Riot has the time to update their tooltips? LOL
People had to data-mine the game for stats in the start, that´s when they realized those items disable healing......riot probably forgot to write that out themselves into the open.
wolvius1 votesPhantom dancer makes crits and sword of divine deal zero damage, negating healing completely sounds familiar.
There's two different items that give healing why not two with grievous, your still relying on rng for the components for them it's not like redbuff was very good beforehand.
A lot of stuffs got changed this patch thornmail returns 100% of mitigated damage as true damage to the attacker.
Titanium701 votesThat's the only to justify numbers like 50% Lifesteal on BT... Without some for GWs you could stack them every game for freewin.
n3ther1 votesThe items don't stack so building both is a waste of resources. They exist as counter-play to healing/unkillable carries like PD/Warmogs/hextech Shyv. Riot is bad at giving all the information in their tooltips and they need to fix that at least.
