I know you strive for innovation but do you EVER stop for even a quarter second to consider wether this is suitable for a COMPETITIVE VIDEO GAME?
Because nothing about Akali's rework implies it's being made for a multiplayer game. It looks like it's made for a singleplayer game against AI opponents that are designed to be beaten like nothing.
At least TRY to give your champions counterplay.
Keevalroy99 votesI know you strive for innovation but do you EVER stop for even a quarter second to consider wether this is suitable for a COMPETITIVE VIDEO GAME?
This is a CertainlyT design, so no. The philosophy always seems to be "how fucking cancerous can I make this kit? Tadaaa, here's the new Akali - another tumor I can inject into the roster. You're welcome. Now suck me off over how innovative I am."
WøOxer11 votesThis is a CertainlyT design, so no. The philosophy always seems to be "how fucking cancerous can I make this kit? Tadaaa, here's the new Akali - another tumor I can inject into the roster. You're welcome. Now suck me off over how innovative I am."
I wish I would upvote twice.
Deneviel59 votes..... CertainlyT ... totally ignoring towers ..... jumping half the lane over a wall cause the talon was marked... just a normal day of work
My Waifu Vanilla10 votesLee Sin works the same way and people aren't complaining too much about him for going halfway across the lane on a skillshot. You have to hit the E which gets blocked by everything and looks fairly small and MISSING the E means you are now even further away from the target and you can't actually engage. If Lee misses Q he can't suddenly not go for a wardhop play and go in anyway. Akali displaces herself like 200 units backwards meaning she isn't getting in AT ALL when she misses and it looks like the E is going to be a main part of her damage since it activates her passive in the most convenient way.
Deneviel15 votes[{quoted}](name=My Waifu Vanilla,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TWPqvs0i,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2018-07-16T18:27:39.143+0000)
Lee Sin works the same way and people aren't complaining too much about him for going halfway across the lane on a skillshot. You have to hit the E which gets blocked by everything and looks fairly small and MISSING the E means you are now even further away from the target and you can't actually engage. If Lee misses Q he can't suddenly not go for a wardhop play and go in anyway. Akali displaces herself like 200 units backwards meaning she isn't getting in AT ALL when she misses and it looks like the E is going to be a main part of her damage since it activates her passive in the most convenient way.
You make it sound like that's the only way she have to catch you ... but SURPRISE IT'S NOT THE CASE!
Look at video she jumps over the LB with no mark on her ( she wasn't even on the location she jumped so she prob can jump where she wants ) then she do a point blank skillshot ( that seem unavoidable since while it can be blocked seem to have a rather high wideness ) and then run back to the LB with the speed of a SION with R while she is marked ( prob she will also jump over wall while chasing for marked targets )
Also Lee can't totally ignore towers .......
LankPants8 votesYou make it sound like that's the only way she have to catch you ... but SURPRISE IT'S NOT THE CASE!
Just playing Devils Advocate here, Lee also has another way to catch people outside of his Q, he can ward jump towards them. There's a whole case that can be made about tradeoffs for doing so, but this argument is slightly disingenuous just based off of that.
Also Lee can't totally ignore towers .......
No counter arguments to that one. I can understand why spells like TF R and Corki Q wouldn't reveal Akali in shroud, but there's really no reason towers shouldn't be able to see Akali.
Deneviel11 votesJust playing Devils Advocate here, Lee also has another way to catch people outside of his Q, he can ward jump towards them. There's a whole case that can be made about tradeoffs for doing so, but this argument is slightly disingenuous just based off of that.
No counter arguments to that one. I can understand why spells like TF R and Corki Q wouldn't reveal Akali in shroud, but there's really no reason towers shouldn't be able to see Akali.
Just seen her gameplay video ...... she is even more broken than what i feared ... here we come with another pick or ban till hyper nerf.
Narut015 votesJust seen her gameplay video ...... she is even more broken than what i feared ... here we come with another pick or ban till hyper nerf.
they dont nerf Certs champs because LC$ big plays
HeimerLmao5 voteswHaT dO YoU mEAn? HiS cHamPS aRe BaLanCED, InNOvAtiVe AnD FuN. LOoK aT WaRwiCk ReWOrk, SinCe it WeNt GoOd, THEn hE MuSt bE A gOOd DesIgnEr.
japhib5 votesIt's not like there aren't mobile champs in the game already. 
heck even current 
all can do multiple dashes/MS boosts on a short or no cooldown.
Trogmar43 votesThe reworked champions are a little too powerful now. irealia/aatrox are now basically pick/ban and no question Akali will join them, insane mobility and super strong stealth. She's easily going to replace talon for the best assassin.
oblivioncrusade2 votesirelia and aatrox arent pick/ban. aatrox is complete garbage since they reworked him. given he was the top of the meta pre-rework but hes no pick or ban anymore. he was pre-rework in season 8 though
Horse Grenades24 votesirelia and aatrox arent pick/ban. aatrox is complete garbage since they reworked him. given he was the top of the meta pre-rework but hes no pick or ban anymore. he was pre-rework in season 8 though
Have you played this game in the last month?
Sexy Jack Rabbit3 votesTbf Irelia and Aatrox bring a lot more to a team then Akali.
As much as this new Akali is going to be broken af, you've got to remember she's an Assassin and seeing her in pro play will probably be less likely then Irelia and Aatrox. Who bring Damage, Tankiness AND CC.
Whereas Akali is just going to destroy Solo queue. I doubt she'll reach pro play levels of Irelia.
Steel Lady1 votesI agree, I sort of see Akali as a more Katarina-like assassin wherein she'll be pretty great early to mid-game if she makes good picks but her late game will rely heavily on her flanking the enemy team without getting cc'd and shut down. I don't think that she's all that bursty, Zed could contribute just as much damage as a mid-laner, all Akali offers is her stealth.
Though a lot of people might see that as broken, we all have to remember that this was the same reaction towards Kayn's E, we all thought it was so broken having a champion be able to walk though all terrain with a non-ultimate ability, but seeing as he sits at a 5% banrate, I don't think that's the case.
Serika Zero5 votesFizz, maokai and probably more already drop turret aggro without an ultimate ability. Zed, current akali, ekko, katarina, can already go over walls without ultimate abilities. And then there was zac, which pretty much does what kain does in terms of mobility, but more and better and on a not ultimate ability. Yet when he got released (zac) people didn't lose their shit over it
In the past years, this community turned worse. And might continue to do so.
I might even reinstall lol after a month or two to play new akali out of curiosity. As i bet everyone is going to either play or ban her.
Steel Lady7 votes[{quoted}](name=Serika Zero,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TWPqvs0i,comment-id=0001000100000000,timestamp=2018-07-17T08:00:01.359+0000)
Fizz, maokai and probably more already drop turret aggro without an ultimate ability. Zed, current akali, ekko, katarina, can already go over walls without ultimate abilities. And then there was zac, which pretty much does what kain does in terms of mobility, but more and better and on a not ultimate ability. Yet when he got released (zac) people didn't lose their shit over it
In the past years, this community turned worse. And might continue to do so.
I might even reinstall lol after a month or two to play new akali out of curiosity. As i bet everyone is going to either play or ban her.
This. Just this.
I've been on the boards for about a month or two now and I've been visiting it less and less. Everyone on here just complain about problems that either aren't even problems to begin with or have been part of a bigger problem that has been overlooked for way too long. Nowadays players think it's just cool to call Riot out on their bullshit, that isn't even bullshit. I bet half of the players who made posts about how bad the Aatrox rework was didn't even play a single game of Aatrox, they just thought it be cool to jump in on the conversation and whine like children.
hhaavviikk34 voteswe might as well remove the attacks from towers so that they actually appear as what they really are, a slight blockade in the road, nothing else
Poro Lord30 votesI'm interested to see how it plays out before I have an opinion, but I gotta say, It seems like it could be busted as fuck.
ModCaptainMårvelous19 votesI'm betting on "The Shaco Effect" coming into full-swing. For those who don't know:
Rinse, repeat. Expecting a lot of cocky Day 1 towerdives that end in disaster.
Deneviel9 votesI'm betting on "The Shaco Effect" coming into full-swing. For those who don't know:
- 1.) Johnny plays against a Shaco who utterly wrecks his shit.
- 2.) "lol what the FUCK. Busted champ. I gotta abuse this!!!"
- 3.) Instalocks Shaco next game.
- 4.) Has no idea how Shaco works or how complex his gameplay pattern is and gets stomped.
- 5.) "Useless fucking champion, why did I ever think he was good."
Rinse, repeat. Expecting a lot of cocky Day 1 towerdives that end in disaster.
Her skill ceiling seem higher than a lot of champ, exspecially with the E and passive managments, still this don't justify a champ with that stupid kit.
The point is that lots of ppl will drop her but after the shaco effect comes the Yasuo effect ... seeing the fewer that will main her going 1vs3, towerdiving at lvl 3, killing you from full HP with 2 auto with the passive and ignite, be scared to recall cause towers won't provvide any defence, seeing her exploiting her low CD and no resource and deal with that huge mobility ( that make her hard to gang after 6 ) and autosustain ( that make her a pain to face in lane. )
remakoro23 votesCounterplay? What is that?
Giga Baboon22 votesBut but but 50% winrate uuuuuhhhhhhhh im coming - meddler
UpDownLeftRightAB16 votesI was kind of wondering how he was going to top windwall as an ability. [sg-janna] But why does he have to make these ultimate normal abilities.
Warlord Rhinark13 votesWell that's just CertainlyT for you.
Harden Stepback8 votesGood job riot. Keep killing the already dying game.
DracosKasu8 votesWhile obscured, Akali is stealthed and though her position can be revealed, Akali herself can't be—meaning she can't be targeted by abilities or attacks, including by turrets.
She cant be target BUT you will see her in the shroud, stop making false claim that she cannot be see from vision. Also your can still hot her with skillshot/AOE
Decrit7 votes
(old one) 
all of these champions have somehow the ability to lose or delay tower aggro. some more, some less, but at least consider than Fizz and Vladimir are both taking the cake here.
This is just a boards fad to get upvotes. And people wonder why boards are not taken seriously.
chipndip16 votesNo, a whole new level of stupid is believing that the new W makes her immune to turret damage when what it does it make them not target her, then having the thread with the faulty info upvoted more than 100 times. She still takes incoming damage. These boards are still fucking stupid.
SarlonDubious5 votesElise has the same thing*[zombie-brand-facepalm]*
Ifneth7 votesAnd Fizz pole, and Ekko R, and LeBlanc fast electrocute proc, and Zed W and R. Kat Shunpo.
LeftyRaydy16 votesNot even close to the same thing. Ekko its on his Ultimate, Leblanc cant dodge a tower shot, Fizz can only E once to dodge. Zed W doesnt save you from a tower shot but his Ult, and Kat Shunpo doesnt save you from Tower shot.
I want you to Imagine this you are on low health lvl idk 3-5. you want to stay by tower to collect experience. Minion wave collapses, but Akali Drops the shroud and can sit there and wait for you to come CS or you have to let it go because she will kill you. It is already a toxic ability in my opinion.
agac42342 voteswhat ur saying is basicly every assassin. if u stay under tower u will die. akalis W just makes it so when she tower dives you she can escape safely with out dying which is basicly every assassin. zed can W kata can E talon can jumg over terrain i belive soo they are all the same
LeftyRaydy4 votesThis is different now she can literally harass you if you are sitting under tower and basically zone you under your own tower which is a big joke.
Iceember1 votesCasting abilities still reveals her and would make her take damage. Not to mention her location is revealed so if you were playing someone like brand or syndra you could hit her back.
LeftyRaydy2 votesum but she can reset tower attacks which would make her the best tower diving champion in the game.
LightningShado4 votesShe doesn't have tower immunity in her shroud, she's just untargetable while in it. She's still revealed by turrets as well.
Deneviel5 votesShe doesn't have tower immunity in her shroud, she's just untargetable while in it. She's still revealed by turrets as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOq3Zk-LQT0&feature=youtu.be&t=388
2:42 CIT FROM THE VIDEO: Not even towers can reveal Akali in her shroud now!
No comment .... and i wrote it just above you.
GrReaper965 votesIts a mislead in quote. They dont "reveal" her as in you cant target her. You can still see her, like how camo champions shimmer when taking damage.
In that clip, ekko can clearly see where Akali is since he threw his q right at her face. Lee can see where she is while his Q is on her Stop spreading misinformation.
Mokuto Bunshi5 votesOnce the tower aims at her and fires, she still gets hit (unlike )
SugeMinPikk4 votes ?
Yordle Xayah3 votesNot overrating or anything
[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]
Kanzler3 votes ?
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japhib2 votesRemember
E
E
passive and W
old passive
?
Untargetability has existed for a long time
Deneviel3 votesRemember
All the champ you listed come with a clear weakness.
Normally Fizz max E and it's his main dmg ability early on .... using it to escape comes with the price of giving up a good chunk of his dmg
Can't move from the cast location unless she can't target something
It's just the passive ... W refresh it and can be easely denid with an AA
It's more close to a 
, you needed to be carefull on the revive HP managments and made him immobile while reviving.
The closest to the new shroudl it's imo
's pool .... and still he can't cast skills while using it and didn't got so much mobility in his kit
GrReaper968 votes cant attack without removing her untargetability and you can still see her with true sight and aoe skills still work
See i can do it too
Packun Flower3 votesUhh.
Yeah, she can. She can absolutely attack you in the shroud without losing her untargetability, when she attacks she only reveals herself for half a second and thats not enough time for a turret to lock onto you and fire a shot, that's what makes this skill so bullshit. She can literally fight you under your own tower for 5 seconds and you cant do a fucking thing about it if your champ doesn't have skill shots.
Wolfeur6 voteswhen she attacks she only reveals herself for half a second and thats not enough time for a turret to lock onto you and fire a shot
https://youtu.be/QDtqIBF-Oq0?t=13s
Stop saying bullshit without knowing
