Playing against glacials is cancer

ShadWooo·Jul 21, 2019·6 votes·2,430 views

Lategame fights against glacials my frontline won't make single attack or spell they are perma stunned for entire duration of the fight. It is extremely unfun to play against them especially when this comp has the most durable tanks in whole game and they cannot be killed.

What is point to have 3 items on my Aatrox or Fiora if (s)he gets stunned the very first second of the match and stays stunned till (s)he dies?

I rather play against Yasuo or Teemo in Summoners Rift than having to endure fighting Glacial/Ranger comps in TFT.

Worst design in a while.

18 Comments

Louie KaboomJul 21, 20191 votes

yeah, couple of features in this game are super aggravating. glacials is one. cursed blade another.

Independent CatJul 21, 20191 votes

glacial stuns need to be nerfed by at **least ** half, straight up, so you have the chance to actually weave a spell or auto attack in between the stuns.

Independent CatJul 21, 20191 votes

alternatively, add diminishing returns.

Independent CatJul 21, 20191 votes

also alternatively, put a 2 second cooldown on any champion that gets stunned so that they can't be stunned again for 2 seconds. e.g., your blitz gets stunned by the enemy volibear. after the stun ends, your blitz can't get stunned again for 2 seconds by the glacial synergy.

Z3SIeeperJul 22, 20191 votes

Alternatively, even just making it so the Glacial stun can't be reapplied to a Glacial stunned unit until the first stun wears off, so that the unit can atleast cast their ability before being frozen again.

EphixusJul 22, 20191 votes

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alternatively, add diminishing returns.

diminishing returns also needs in SR, and other gamemodes. Way too much CC.

InfernapeJul 21, 20191 votes

Me with Yordles lol

VecturnJul 21, 20191 votes

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Me with Yordles lol

Indeed: https://i.imgur.com/0CoG6nS.png

InfernapeJul 22, 20191 votes

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Indeed: https://i.imgur.com/0CoG6nS.png

D I S G U S T A N G

hrooza dota Jul 22, 20191 votes

thats to many yordles

Agent CorgiJul 21, 20191 votes

For me, it's Demon's. Sure they aren't much early, but wait until later. Assuming the player got the items/champions they need, Aatrox & Volibear (with the Demon Upgrade) can floor your whole team with AoE & Mana Burn.

Z3SIeeperJul 22, 20191 votes

Same goes for Demon. You simply just can't stack a melee frontliner in this game.

You either stack defense on a frontline, damage on a backline, or put a RFC on a melee champ to make them effectively ranged and stack damage.

Those are your only 3 options since Demon and Glacial say fuck you to melee champions.

ShadWoooJul 22, 20191 votes

No. Your frontline still makes autoattacks at least against demons. Against glacials you won't get even that. And marksman with 3 items is able to beat demon comp himself.

Z3SIeeperJul 22, 20191 votes

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And marksman with 3 items is able to beat demon comp himself.

Same goes for Glacial.

The literal only difference between the two is that your frontline gets to basic attack vs Demons.

This doesn't disprove my statement that as long as Glacial and Demon exist you simply cannot stack a melee frontliner cuz they won't do anything vs those two other than some pathetic autos vs Demons.

ShadWoooJul 22, 20191 votes

No. Glacials have superior frontline units. Superior. Demons have zero frontline unless you snap one of the glacial tanks and give him Demon Spatula item.

With 6 demons I want to see how do you have decent frontline that won't get oneshoted by t2 or t3 marksman with 2+ items (which is pretty common around level 6).

Also, because your frontline actually gets to do at least attacks they lower hp of demon comp frontline meaning it is easier to kill them for your backline carries.

Also, because your frontline actually can atacks they will build mana. Assuming at least one unit like Shen or Gnar won't get focused, which you can achieve with smart positioning, they are allowed to use their spell and that might be a win. Contrary to glacials - your frontline is perma stunned and they cannot use their abilities nor build mana at all and their units have aoe stuns and ability stuns.

Not to mention most of the demon units are trash. Elise is only good early for abusing the spiders damage to little legend. Evelyn is only good in assassin comp. Having her with demons is waste as it is useless unit. Varus is probably strongest marksman early, but falls off super hard in late. Few games back I had to sell t3 Varus and replace him with t2 Draven to win. The rest units are good or even S tier (Aatrox) but that is just half of them.

Z3SIeeperJul 22, 20191 votes

It's called Aatrox can 1v9 so long as he isn't being hit by Demon/Glacial.

Your frontline gains mana by being attacked. Guess which synergy fucks that over?

"Most of the demon units are trash" okay, now I feel like I have to explain the entire game which I don't feel like doing. Aatrox/Morg/Swain/Brand/Varus are trash gotcha.

ShadWoooJul 22, 20191 votes

I am abusing Aatrox myself. He is not invincible, hell he is paper. He has broken damage but that is it. And if you want him to do damage you have to give him AP items. If you give him AP items he won't be tanky and die very fast, you will be lucky if he gets to make one spell.

Swain is trash unless you get him at level 2. Morg is average unit. I already talked about Varus. I don't buy Brand at all he seems weak and unreliable to me but I am not really playing Demons, I am only abusing Elise and Varus early and replacing them in late anyway.

All and all. From the 6 champ comps Demons are probably the weakest ones and I din't see anyone with that comp in top 4 in last 20 games.

Z3SIeeperJul 22, 20191 votes

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