Double Spear of Shjoin Pyke needs to be nerfed.

MrNuclearPumpkin·7/9/2019, 2:10:24 PM·12 votes·8,466 views

Just that. It's absolutely BS.

Ether make it so you can't stack items, or make it so you can't be permanently stunned for the whole fight or make it so that the AI doesn't CONSTANTLY WALK INTO IT.

11 Comments

Porglit7/9/2019, 3:52:49 PM15 votes

It's important to keep the blame where it lies: Pyke, not spear. I think the biggest issue is the width, length, and duration of the Pyke's stun. He's a tier 2 champion with an ult that's fit for tier 5. If they either shortened the distance (like WHY does he go 10 hexes???) to something like 2 hexes, or the duration to 1/1.5/2 seconds, then it'd be at least understandable.

Sillae7/9/2019, 6:26:08 PM5 votes

Even if they move out of it, they're still stunned if they were in the path... learned it the hard way in a clutch match >.>

Dewott6107/9/2019, 10:08:39 PM4 votes

stacking needs to go, Lucian was just running everywhere with item 3161 item 3161 item 3094 to where my team literally couldn't attack him

Romans VI XXIII7/9/2019, 5:13:59 PM4 votes

Pyke needs to be nerfed, AND same items shouldn't stack.

Bebe Yoda7/10/2019, 8:28:53 PM1 votes

i can deal with glacials, i can deal with literally anything except a pyke because he is so over clocked on dmg and stun duration and being able to use his move every 3 auto attacks is just beyond sensiblity. Riot please nerf him to the ground and have him be a balanced champ. makes the game unplayable. zero counter play unless you get everyone with pd and dragons tooth (ps not likely)

Critmaster Garen7/10/2019, 8:37:05 PM1 votes

ive seen a guy build item 3124 item 3124 item 3124 AurelionSol and just stack random tanky units infront of him to buy time for the items to build up.

needless to say it was stupid and unbeatable.

so +1 to the notion that the same items shouldnt stack.

Scárlét Phóenix7/10/2019, 4:15:16 AM1 votes

instead of nerfing double spear of shojin how about we just limit 1 of any item on any character in TFT so no doubles or triples of any single item on a single character. I made a thread about it but no one liked it so they would rather have the items or champions nerfed.

Ser Parmesan7/10/2019, 10:18:20 AM1 votes

Pyke and shojin both got nerfed, also morello, which was an item perfect for pyke.

Pyke can carry half a fight if you give him 3 Items as of now. So does Draven, so does Seju, so does Swain, so does MF, so does Akali and so on.

Items in this game on the right champions are gamechangers and a Pyke without Items does not do a lot. He is only usefull with Items, he's just another peasant without them, will probably use his ability a single time before he dies and does not change the game with it.

Draven, Seju, Swain and MF are usefull WITHOUT ITEMS.(level 4 and 5 units) That's the difference.

However it can still be argued that his ability has too much impact for a level 2 unit compared to other level 2 units.

Thilmer7/10/2019, 2:06:38 PM1 votes

I think is already nerfed in the PBE.