You're not quitting League.

MrNuclearPumpkin·May 13, 2016·178 votes·10,354 views

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Let's be real you guys. League is not at it's strongest point at the moment, but you know what? League has had it's downsides before. League of Black Cleaver anyone? Kassadin being 90+% ban rate for almost two seasons? Renekton being an unstoppable force for who knows how long? There were balance issues back then too. And we're always going to have balance issues.

Dynamic Q isn't all that great. And we miss Solo Q. There are champions right now that are so broken that they practically shift the game just by being in the game. (I once saw that Veigar was open and picked him into support. We won)

And maybe you are going to stop. Maybe you really are going to uninstall. Maybe you're going to put league down and start something else. Maybe you'll get into Overwatch or Battleborn. Maybe you'll pick up your dusty PS4/Xbone and play that game you've been trying to start. Maybe you'll start playing DOTA2 or Smite or something. Maybe you'll go outside and make some friends.

But you're not gonna completely quit league. Eventually, you'll watch an LCS match. You'll hear of a new champion. A new item. A new balance change. You'll see how the meta is shifting. You'll notice how people are talking about how the new patch is better. Or how fun the new champion is. Or you'll notice that a few new champions are being reworked. Something is going to bring you back.

Something will always pull you back. Even if it's not playing the game itself.

League is part of our lives now. We love the game. We love the characters. We still love this game.

Embrace it.

191 Comments

IlliadMay 13, 201682 votes

I love watching people post in the boards that they are leaving, are all proud and righteous about the decision, even though it just shows them looking like some pathetic equivalent Facebook attention attempt.

Project omenMay 13, 20165 votes

I was looking for a comment like this.

Mistress MadokaMay 13, 201610 votes

And then you check their match history and they Didn't even slow down, they just hopped into another match

RowanEndMay 14, 20162 votes

This is dumb lmao ppl announce they're leaving because they're disgusted with the state of balance. Not always for attention, but okay.

vanesser33May 14, 20162 votes

This comment is a blessing summoner 4

Sahn UzalMay 13, 201629 votes

http://66.media.tumblr.com/158d794f04c2aaf936e0c50dfdb3ab1c/tumblr_mvk2tf1fPu1rziwwco1_250.gif A real life friend of mine likes to say he's going to stop playing LoL It never lasts longer than a week

VoidnerMay 13, 20169 votes

i stopped league some months ago only because of my PC... it sucks

DopaFeedMay 13, 20165 votes

feelsbadman

KillerKellMay 13, 20169 votes

Try 600+ Ping... damn Hughesnet. Satellite Internet SUCKS. SUCKS SUCKS SUCKS SUCKS SUCKS!

I had better internet at Truck Stops as a Truck Driver.

I had better internet Deployed to a War Zone in Iraq (true story, the Internet there WAS better than Hughesnet here).

This is America, how the hell is Broad Band not available to everyone that has a roof and electricity? Damn Obama!

Sniper 0May 13, 20163 votes

I managed to go like a month or two.... xD

I went 4 months without playing after I hit gold last season but I fully intended to come back.

King SlendoMay 13, 201626 votes

To be honest, if things don't get turned around with these new Reworks, I can personally easily quit and go to Overwatch, Simply fill the void of my heart with another trashy game, easy peezy.

MrNuclearPumpkinMay 13, 20168 votes

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To be honest, if things don't get turned around with these new Reworks, I can personally easily quit and go to Overwatch, Simply fill the void of my heart with another trashy game, easy peezy.

But that's the thing my friend. At the moment we think we're done with it. We have a new game to play. A new love. A bright and shiny love. New gameplay! New people! Oooh! This is certainly better. But eventually. Overwatch will get old. The games will feel stale and they'll eventually lose their hype. And you know what'll be there waiting for you? League.

BouziMay 13, 201611 votes

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But that's the thing my friend. At the moment we think we're done with it. We have a new game to play. A new love. A bright and shiny love. New gameplay! New people! Oooh! This is certainly better. But eventually. Overwatch will get old. The games will feel stale and they'll eventually lose their hype. And you know what'll be there waiting for you? League.

u can literally say that about any game that someone considered getting "old"

like ur saying overwatch will get old (i dont plan to ever play it) but in context ur literally saying overwatch will get to the point league is....and u know what will be waiting for you? every game uve considered "old"

sure league will be there when overwatch gets old but so is every other game....and personal preference comes into play also...things will just innately be more fun than other things...and if someone takes the game u love, changes it, undermines all its systems and hemmorages half their playerbase simply for money....id honestly pick any other game at that point

dont get me wrong i hope they revert this whole fkin season so i can start playing again but lets be real when has riot reverted ANY system they put in place? how good as riot been at balance? we getting closer to balance or further away from it? does riot listen to any feedback? or do they do as they see fit regardless what everyone says use pbe to test things? LOL

they just kept fking themselves over and over saying it will be fine our playerbase is so huge....welp looks like it wont be that way for long =x

Mr ZablinxMay 13, 20167 votes

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But that's the thing my friend. At the moment we think we're done with it. We have a new game to play. A new love. A bright and shiny love. New gameplay! New people! Oooh! This is certainly better. But eventually. Overwatch will get old. The games will feel stale and they'll eventually lose their hype. And you know what'll be there waiting for you? League.

Lmao, overwatch get stale? Yea right, especially considering Blizzard plans to expand upon the game and add content after launch FOR FREE. Won't have to shell out 6300 ip just to get a new champ ( or is it 7000 these days?)

Only thing getting stale is league with frustrating matchmaking and some of the worst balance this season

KOC ruleMay 14, 20163 votes

Ok, you're saying that getting credits from playing a game isn't considered free? If you're given the option to all 136~ champions then it's easy to get overwhelmed. If you're forced to play the game to get other champions then that, along with free weeks, paces you really well. Also, if you can't save up 7300~ (forgot exact number) for a new champ then that means you don't play a lot at all lol. Focus less on the ip you earn and you earn it much faster.

Mr ZablinxMay 14, 20163 votes

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Ok, you're saying that getting credits from playing a game isn't considered free? If you're given the option to all 136~ champions then it's easy to get overwhelmed. If you're forced to play the game to get other champions then that, along with free weeks, paces you really well. Also, if you can't save up 7300~ (forgot exact number) for a new champ then that means you don't play a lot at all lol. Focus less on the ip you earn and you earn it much faster.

First off, That's clearly not what I said. I'm simply pointing to the fact that one game is free, but puts so many barriers behind content (champs, runes) that adds nothing but pointless grind while the other had a down payment, but you get access to all major content (now and the future) with stuff like cosmetics being unlock able through simply playing the game. Second, that's just bullshit. Having anytging that "paces" how you get to progress in learning and playing a game versus letting you go at your own pace is bad design. And don't pretend free rotation helps, all it does is let people play champs that they might enjoy, then rapidly put them away from reach making newer player go through the cycle of learning another round of champs. If anything THAT is going to overwhelm players, especially new ones (not to mention you don't get access to free champs in ranked). Finally, some people just don't have time to grind for a few weeks just to get one champ. Punishing people because they don't have the time doesn't need an explanation of why that's stupid. There's a reason why league has a notoriously hard entrance cap for brand new players. Getting all of 136 Heros is staggering especially considering how little ip you get per match (assuming you win each match of course).

Kuroi86May 14, 20162 votes

I'm simply pointing to the fact that one game is free, but puts so many barriers behind content (champs, runes) that adds nothing but pointless grind

That is the hitch when you play a free to play game. Riot still have to make money, hence most of the content being purchasable via cash. But on the other hand, they offer a way for you to earn every champ for free. No it's not easy, it's not meant to be easy, it's supposed to be rewarding.

Say you try out Draven on free week and you have a blast with him. Yes you're going to have to grind it out to save up the IP in order to purchase him, but the moment you do, the satisfaction of being able to play him whenever you want and mastering him is incredibly worth it.

Mr ZablinxMay 14, 20162 votes

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That is the hitch when you play a free to play game. Riot still have to make money, hence most of the content being purchasable via cash. But on the other hand, they offer a way for you to earn every champ for free. No it's not easy, it's not meant to be easy, it's supposed to be rewarding.

Say you try out on free week and you have a blast with him. Yes you're going to have to grind it out to save up the IP in order to purchase him, but the moment you do, the satisfaction of being able to play him whenever you want and mastering him is incredibly worth it.

"Riot still have to make money". That's a bullshit excuse and you know it. Dota 2 is completely free, giving access to all heros, yet still somehow manages to make literally millions from the game solely from cosmetics. Where's the hitch there? Oh wait there is none. And let's be honest here, no one buys IP, Riot makes it money from people paying money for RP, which there is no way to earn other then paying. There's nothing rewarding about grind, it's for artificial game time increase. It's called grind for a reason.

How will I grind the IP though if I'm forced to play new champs I have no idea how to play? I will most likely lose, vastly decreasing my IP. And what If i fall in love with another champ? Then I need to grind for two champs. But what if another rotation comes and I fall in love with yet a third champ? See how this turns into a vicious cycle that leads no where? And that's not even touching on the runes or rune pages (which some argue can turn into a p2w factor since runes do indeed give advantages over those with no runes), which cost a hefty 6300 IP.

Kuroi86May 14, 20161 votes

Dota 2 is completely free, giving access to all heros, yet still somehow manages to make literally millions from the game solely from cosmetics.

http://www.kdramastars.com/articles/14664/20140123/dota-2-vs-lol.htm

And let's be honest here, no one buys IP, Riot makes it money from people paying money for RP, which there is no way to earn other then paying.

... huh? I didn't say you could buy IP, Riot doesn't sell it. Cast transactions are only through RP while IP is earned through games.

How will I grind the IP though if I'm forced to play new champs I have no idea how to play?

New players can play through the tutorial, granting them IP to purchase a 450 champ.

I will most likely lose, vastly decreasing my IP.

You don't lose IP, you can earn less, but you don't lose any.

And that's not even touching on the runes or rune pages (which some argue can turn into a p2w factor since runes do indeed give advantages over those with no runes), which cost a hefty 6300 IP.

Even some reds have stated they want to do work on the rune system. It's not a big enough issue to worry about atm but I foresee it getting something of an overhaul in the next couple of years.

Mr ZablinxMay 14, 20161 votes

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http://www.kdramastars.com/articles/14664/20140123/dota-2-vs-lol.htm

... huh? I didn't say you could buy IP, Riot doesn't sell it. Cast transactions are only through RP while IP is earned through games.

New players can play through the tutorial, granting them IP to purchase a 450 champ.

You don't lose IP, you can earn less, but you don't lose any.

Even some reds have stated they want to do work on the rune system. It's not a big enough issue to worry about atm but I foresee it getting something of an overhaul in the next couple of years.

Not sure why you are linking me this article. I never said one makes more over the other, just pointing out the Dota still makes millions while being completely free to play and giving access to all champs, showing your statement that "Riot needs to make money" is utter bullshit.

You said you could buy champs and other content. People most commonly use IP on champs, I know very few people who willingly spend RP on champs. Just a euphemism that was probably not as clear as it should have been.

Oh, you mean a 450 champ that they most likely did not want or fall in love with during free rotation, furthering my point. Also, the tutorial is a joke if we are going to mention it.

I know that, that's what I said. Your not guaranteed a certain time frame to gain enough IP. It's honestly sort of random.

I'm glad they plan to address it in years to come, long after many players, new and old, leave this game.

KOC ruleMay 14, 20161 votes

You're saying that they both make millions, the reason he linked that is because Riot still makes more, sure it's still a lot of money for Valve, but more for Riot. Riot has one game that they have to make a lot of money off of, Valve has a platform, Dota is just another money source.

Oh, you mean a 450 champ that they most likely did not want or fall in love with during free rotation, furthering my point. Also, the tutorial is a joke if we are going to mention it.

Ok, come on man, here you're just making up bullshit lmao. They most likely will like those champs, they started on them, they -theoretically- provide a simple playlstyle for their roles. Even then, when you're given eight different champs a week chances are you can find one you like, and it isn't just ripped away instantly. When Braum was free I got him to Mastery rank 4, without even owning him. When that week ended I wasn't super determined to get Braum, I was like, "Well he's fun".

I know that, that's what I said. Your not guaranteed a certain time frame to gain enough IP. It's honestly sort of random.

Except for it not really random, if you're lv20 playing bot games it'll take a long time, if you're playing norms it'll take a bit depending on how much you play.

You say that last part trying to make the game sound like it's decaying, when they change it, it'll be changed, hopefully better. You're pointlessly trying to make Riot sound worse than they are. They're pumping out content and reworks/updates as fast as possible to keep the game relevant. Not that they need constant changes to stay relevant, but they want the game to feel like a 21st century game, and updating is part of that. They're pumping out content at an incredibly fast rate, and the quality isn't taking much of a hit from that. Regardless of what you're gonna pull out of thin air on this one, the game feels better than it used to.

Mr ZablinxMay 14, 20161 votes

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You're saying that they both make millions, the reason he linked that is because Riot still makes more, sure it's still a lot of money for Valve, but more for Riot. Riot has one game that they have to make a lot of money off of, Valve has a platform, Dota is just another money source.

Ok, come on man, here you're just making up bullshit lmao. They most likely will like those champs, they started on them, they -theoretically- provide a simple playlstyle for their roles. Even then, when you're given eight different champs a week chances are you can find one you like, and it isn't just ripped away instantly. When Braum was free I got him to Mastery rank 4, without even owning him. When that week ended I wasn't super determined to get Braum, I was like, "Well he's fun".

Except for it not really random, if you're lv20 playing bot games it'll take a long time, if you're playing norms it'll take a bit depending on how much you play.

You say that last part trying to make the game sound like it's decaying, when they change it, it'll be changed, hopefully better. You're pointlessly trying to make Riot sound worse than they are. They're pumping out content and reworks/updates as fast as possible to keep the game relevant. Not that they need constant changes to stay relevant, but they want the game to feel like a 21st century game, and updating is part of that. They're pumping out content at an incredibly fast rate, and the quality isn't taking much of a hit from that. Regardless of what you're gonna pull out of thin air on this one, the game feels better than it used to.

And? Riot makes more, ok. Still doesn't take away from the fact that Riot could make EVEN MORE if they followed Dota's example.

How is it bullshit? How do you know that someone will like them? Different champs have different things, from aesthetics to gameplay. I hated Ashe when I first played her. Yes, I know I'm not representative of an entire gaming population, but the point stands. Chances are other people may not like them either. And the issue is not whether or not someone is going to find a champ they enjoy. The issue comes when you want to keep them permanently. Braum is fun, I agree with you, but he's a hefty 6300. Someone whose just getting into the game or may play leisurely won't be getting that anytime soon. (Fyi you can't earn mastery for a champ you don't own). And again, I bring up ranked play. You can't use free rotation in ranked. High quality/meta champs are expensive in terms of IP, and in matches that are heavily focused on winning, you want the best champs to choose. I don't know if any of the 450 champs are top tier, aside from maybe Ryze?

But it IS decaying. Can you honestly say Riot listens to community feedback? No. Can you say the game is in a balanced state where most champs are played? Absolutely not. The pro scene showed that with a handful of champs always being picked for roles(tank ekko, graves jungle). Can you say matchmaking is in a state that ensure fair and fun games? Depends on who you ask, but usually the answer is no. Pro's even have issues with it. Yes, they are pumping out new content, a new champ is to come out soon. But that is inherently the problem. Riot is pushing more and more content into a game that severely needs a balance check. They are making it harder and harder for them to maintain any semblance of balance. Instead of simply stepping back, looking at champs and tweaking numbers here and there to help some champs that are in ruts and bring others down a notch, they just push new content. And honestly, that's what they want, because they know players like you are going to jump on the FotM bandwagon and forgot about whatever current issue is going on. "Make it a 21st century game"? No, it was already a modern game. Tell me, how is the game feeling better than it use to when, for example, with the mid-season update, they added RNG to dragon spawns? Riot said they wanted to remove RNG from the game, its why they removed evasion a long time ago, yet here they are adding RNG. Seriously think about what I have said, rather then just trying to blow off my arguments with fallacies, as this is my last response to you.

I guarantee you haven't been playing a long time, probably only for maybe two years or so, if you honestly believe the game is "better than it used to".

Kuroi86May 14, 20163 votes

And? Riot makes more, ok. Still doesn't take away from the fact that Riot could make EVEN MORE if they followed Dota's example.

No, they couldn't, because if they could, Dota would be making more. Instead in 2013 Dota2 didn't even make 1/8th of the revenue that League of Legends did. This is because Valve doesn't need to rely on the revenue from Dota2 to keep it's doors open, Riot does. So Riot made a free to play system that (while slightly outdated and in need of some updating in terms of pricing and gain) actually works without gouging players and forcing them to pay to win. It's not perfect, no F2P system is or could be, but it's a lot easier on the player than many other systems.

But it IS decaying. Can you honestly say Riot listens to community feedback?

Yes, yes I can. I frequent these forums, I read the posts, I see the responses, I watch surrender@20. While Riot is slow in their actions, they DO listen! The issue is most people think that a suggestion should be implemented within days or a week of Riot hearing about it or responding to it. But if you watch long enough, it may take 1-5 months, but you'll start to see a lot of player feed back getting reactions and a lot of suggestions being implemented.

Can you say the game is in a balanced state where most champs are played?

That's not how League works. It relies on the metagame. Being that once something is strong, people will seek a way to counter it, the counter will become strong/popular and the former pick will go to the wayside until a strong/popular champ is weak against them.

It's not a perfect system. You've got champs with kits too similar to the point that you simply pick which ever champ you prefer or whichever just does the job better than the others.

You've got champs that have inherently unhealthy kits that cannot be allowed to be strong or else they will begin to warp the meta.

Then you've got the ever popular generalists who are sufficient in virtually any meta you can think of and naturally are going to constantly have high pick rates because of the safety they offer.

The pro scene showed that with a handful of champs always being picked for roles

The pro meta is also nothing like the general meta at any other elo. It can point to issues with champs, but is unreliable as a single source of information. If looking at the meta, you should typically consider Gold up to Master without counting the pro league. You'll get a much wider and more reliable information pool to pull from.

Riot is pushing more and more content into a game that severely needs a balance check. They are making it harder and harder for them to maintain any semblance of balance. Instead of simply stepping back, looking at champs and tweaking numbers here and there to help some champs that are in ruts and bring others down a notch, they just push new content.

This would make sense, if the content team and balance team were one and the same. But they aren't. The balance team does one thing, they monitor balance of each and every champ and try to make adjustments as they feel necessary.

Also, compared to 2012 when Riot released 19 champions. We got 5 new champs last year. They HAVE slowed down to focus more on balance.

I think the bigger question, is does your ideal of balance line up with Riots?

I guarantee you haven't been playing a long time, probably only for maybe two years or so

Mid season 3.
While they still have hiccups from time to time. The balance as a whole has improved. Or do you want the jungle Trio back? LeeSin Elise

Poptart EvelynnMay 13, 201616 votes

Except people are quitting. What?

Take for example some of us who are top 100 most played NA. Like I have over 20-25k games played. I haven't played this game actively in the last 5 months and neither have the others who enjoyed this game so much for the first 4 seasons.

I've pretty much quit and log in to play a game or two here and there to see if the game has changed enough for me to come back. So many people have quit this game and that is why Riot has been cutting resources and trying to bring back the feel of the game. When they push this amount of content and keep trying to make huge changes it's because they are seeing a dip in players. The boxes were a way to keep players attached in to a "grind/reward" tactic.

I don't enjoy the way this game has changed. Solo impact has been nerfed into the ground, individual skill has less of an impact on lane phase, and now champion select is winning games. This is not the league of legends I enjoyed so much back in the earlier seasons. I play one game and I'm disappointed beyond believe in the current balance of the game. I'm disgusted by the player base.

You say "you aren't quitting" but you do realize there is a lot of people who aren't saying they are quitting but are actually quitting. I get what you are trying to say but you are really pushing attention away from the real issue with the game in its current state and it's having a huge impact.

Karma DeifiedMay 14, 20165 votes

The boxes were a way to keep players attached in to a "grind/reward" tactic.

And a pretty crappy one. I forgot about them for a while till I read this.

LavanielMay 14, 20163 votes

Wow. This is exactly what Riot needs to hear.

ZigZags25May 14, 20166 votes

Thank you for writing this. I feel the same way. I've played around 4k games and come back season after season to play this game, I've loved this game for a long time. The new changes to all my favorite characters and items have really pushed me away from the game though. It's just not fun anymore. I just played like 4 games of aram and got more and more frustrated and disgusted with the way the game is going I just couldn't bare to play it anymore. I hope to god they fix it so I can have my game back and not this travesty that they have created. If not, Paragon here I come. I tried the beta and omg so much fun. I'll probably see a lot of you there if they don't fix the gigantic mistake they have made of League.

BouziMay 13, 201613 votes

all i heard was "i cant quit league so you cant either"

have u noticed the que times at all? plenty of people have started leaving and some of us just check on if they reverted their huge mistake yet

which they havent....but again u dont speak for everyone and thats ur assumption and ur def entitled to it

however, to say nobody will/can quit league while ur watching hundreds of goodbye posts and watching que times go up and more and more people dissatisfied with the game.....to sit there and say quitting isnt possible or that people wont do it is just ignorant to basic facts man

no offense, not tryna be a dickk or anything...but its the truth

Cowgirl EdMay 13, 201612 votes

this is an all time low, people will never stop playing ofc, but look how many people play WAY LESS i used to play every night till 5am, both ranked and classic (and the last 3 games aram with friends)

now i just play some aram and some classics

no i won't leave game's boring as fuck tho

NyhverMay 13, 20169 votes

There's people that care less about league or quit fairly frequently

ShadulaMay 13, 20169 votes

I can confidently speak for myself that once overwatch comes out league will be a thing of the past, sure as you said I'l be interested in a champion release and maybe play one game. But League will be that one game you play when ur main game is down for an update or something, at least in my own case. I'm not saying I hate league, I couldnt care less about any of the changes, I'm a blizzard fanboi through and through.

kaltenashesMay 13, 20169 votes

thats true and sad

i've started playing LOL before Ezreal was released and i played until Lissandra release, then i bought Xbox 360 never played lol again. unfortunately there is a new gen of consoles and i'm saving my pennies for a ps4 (y so expensive?) till i buy it i'll play lol and smite... this cycle never ends

Dyna Q is disgusting, premades are horrible, Solo Q normals is my ranked this season

MinardeMay 13, 20169 votes

You'll hear of a new champion. A new item. A new balance change. You'll see how the meta is shifting. You'll notice how people are talking about how the new patch is better.

This would be a more likely, or even possible, situation if Riot hadn't completely removed my preferred map. And continued neglecting every other map besides SR.

Woook3rMay 13, 20168 votes

im not watching the lcs...

Karn BishopMay 13, 20167 votes

Well you would be wrong then, solo Queue is the main reason i enjoyed this game and i have not actively played in a long while and likely I will switch over to Overwatch or paragon soon.

SwaidMay 13, 20166 votes

I never leave.

I just take hiatus from time to time when the game feels stale.

I'm taking one right now.

MrWasjigMay 13, 20166 votes

Maybe so, but I'm sure playing significantly less.

Two games and I can't be assed to play further doesn't really sit in the game's favour.

Especially when I realise I could be having just as much fun doing a lot of other things while also cutting out the large quantity of idiots/flamers/ragers etc.

DankstinMay 13, 20165 votes

I sometimes try to quit but I can't bring myself to unfollow Surrender@20 or Riot on Facebook, so the updates are always in my face regardless, pulling me back like I'm stunned and they have a Blitzcrank. Into his loving arms once again.

GoofleMay 14, 20165 votes

Pretty sure I quit, but if you say so... This community has a special place in my heart though, so I visit these forums regularly for some memes. Rarely ever will you find that many stupid people gathered in one place.

ZoeeeeMay 13, 20164 votes

Part of the problem for me is rank shaming, and genuine lack of respect between players. I could go into any other online game, and have to deal with this kind of toxic community.

LilxPaprikaMay 13, 20163 votes

are you saying league of black cleavers was op? because if it was then it should absolutely be now seeing as how the new one is just as comparable as the old one.

I do think a 3k gold black cleaver is a must have though, as just prior to patch 6.9 armor stacking was mostly uncontested for the better part of the game since by the time black cleaver was completed as second or third item its usually too late.

KillerKellMay 13, 20165 votes

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are you saying league of black cleavers was op? because if it was then it should absolutely be now seeing as how the new one is just as comparable as the old one.

I do think a 3k gold black cleaver is a must have though, as just prior armor stacking was mostly uncontested for the better part of the game since by the time black cleaver was completed as second or third item its usually too late.

Well, it might be... if you could stack 6 of them like during the League of Black Cleaver days.

I wouldn't might stacking 6 Sunfire Capes again. :D MUNDO BURN!

HammerpriestMay 13, 20164 votes

Non unique stacking. Non unique 20 flat armor pen. Non unique 10% CDR. Buy 4 boots and a last whisper and do true damage to literally any champ.

RoodToobMay 13, 20162 votes

nah man the Inis Eve 200Dmg per sec was where it was at

GorgannanMay 14, 20163 votes

Idk, I haven't played since November. I forced myself to play one with a friend because he's getting into it and needed guidance, and it felt tedious and boring. I wanted to alt f4 within 15 minutes.

nice tableMay 14, 20163 votes

jokes on you overwatch is coming.

SunriseSkaterKidMay 14, 20163 votes

i quite liked 90% ban kass season, cause all you had to do was BAN HIM and you had a worry free game. This season is that season except with 8 different Kassadins. And atleast back then when something went wrong they would disable things and hotfix, the last hotfix i can recall was Azir first release when he could just spam turrets everywhere. I remember logging on and seeing "We've disabled X for Y reason" almost everyday. Sure it got annoying but atleast Riot was admitting fault and fixing things if they were too bad. Now we don't see that anymore.

Shamefur DisprayMay 16, 20162 votes

There a lot of people I've met that still keep up somewhat with patches and the LCS but they don't jump into a game more then say once in a blue moon and as of tonight I'm joining them until Riot gets the hint and sorts this chaos out. This season has gotten awful overall with all these changes that they just shoved in our faces by force and how the game has become less about individual skill. This game just isn't fun anymore for a lot of people.

Personally, I love League and I wish Riot the best but we're moving in different directions and can't see each other anymore.

AlexanderVXMay 15, 20161 votes

I nearly don´t play LoL anymore, my brother stopped playing (SanoVX), and also all of my friends: SpotfireY, R41D3R, r4x4r, Toadili, SanoVX, BesnerVX.

That´s sad since we used to play nearly everyday together for several years, but I guess its not worth to waste our time at a game as unbalanced as LoL.

Sometimes I still drop by to see if the game is developing in a positive way, but all i can see is that its getting worse: I just had to read the latest patch notes: Malzahar was going to be op, Zed can´t be countered by quicksilver anymore, no nerfs on Lucian and Vayne.

SlaktarTaskenMay 15, 20162 votes

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I nearly don´t play LoL anymore, my brother stopped playing (SanoVX), and also all of my friends: SpotfireY, R41D3R, r4x4r, Toadili, SanoVX, BesnerVX.

That´s sad since we used to play nearly everyday together for several years, but I guess its not worth to waste our time at a game as unbalanced as LoL.

Sometimes I still drop by to see if the game is developing in a positive way, but all i can see is that its getting worse: I just had to read the latest patch notes: Malzahar was going to be op, Zed can´t be countered by quicksilver anymore, no nerfs on Lucian and Vayne.

Same here, most of my friends left years ago, while I stubbornly kept on, I could never manage to get my other friends into it because of the toxic community.

I see now it was a mistake even trying to considering what league has become, so I guess the jokes on me, they were the smart ones.