Glacial champions need to be reworked

Bultz·Jul 21, 2019·2 votes·728 views

Having my whole team stunned for so long over and over, especially by ashe who ults every 2 seconds, if fucking stupid bullshit.

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JamareeJul 21, 20192 votes

I think the balance to them is that most glacial units suck on their own and/or needs items tied with their rarity hurting getting a glacial comp. Like, you can't rush glacial, you will lose every round, you HAVE to scale into it.

Braum is easily the worst unit in this game, bar none. Lissandra is probably the worst caster with the fact her ultimate is a point and click hard CC getting nullified if she is half life. Ashe is rare and more used for her ranger then glacial and for her to proc her ultimate reasonably, needs items and if you give her the items, you aren't giving Volibear items. Volibear sucks until you give him items. Sejuanai is good though, no matter what because of her ultimate. Anivia is ok, but her being level 5 heavily hampers her being taken, more often then not I see those 5 above then someone else getting a frozen mallet.

gimme 1 secJul 21, 20191 votes

Amen. Tried rushing Glacials with Lissandra > Braum > Volibear and suffered from poor synergy / set bonuses. Only able to get 3rd or 4th place rushing them

JamareeJul 21, 20191 votes

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Amen. Tried rushing Glacials with Lissandra > Braum > Volibear and suffered from poor synergy / set bonuses. Only able to get 3rd or 4th place rushing them

I'm not even lucky enough to get that tbh, I generally get like 5th or 6th.

gimme 1 secJul 21, 20191 votes

maybe your rank is really high? I got ranked as Stone IV cos I just jumped into games without checking patch notes and made my way to Bronze II thus far.

hrooza dota Jul 21, 20192 votes

6 glaciel is pretty meh while 4 is okish and 2 is overpowered

reason is ashe + sej can be thrown in any comp with a ranger, the attack speed ashe get allow her to perma CC players pretty easily

or that with anivia+liss for golem

i just had a game yester day as rangers where ashe with hush + runaan and another attack speed item was perma CCing the front line of enemy team that nobody in front can cast an ability [sej front line].

did that in noble comp as will but with a braum in front instant.

i think glac could get some sort of rework in % where 2 get nerfed 4 stay the same or slight nerf and 6 get a buff

JamareeJul 21, 20191 votes

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6 glaciel is pretty meh while 4 is okish and 2 is overpowered

reason is ashe + sej can be thrown in any comp with a ranger, the attack speed ashe get allow her to perma CC players pretty easily

or that with anivia+liss for golem

i just had a game yester day as rangers where ashe with hush + runaan and another attack speed item was perma CCing the front line of enemy team that nobody in front can cast an ability [sej front line].

did that in noble comp as will but with a braum in front instant.

i think glac could get some sort of rework in % where 2 get nerfed 4 stay the same or slight nerf and 6 get a buff

Yeah, that is why I think glacial is fine, because you don't build around glacial, you build around the good units of such and their secondaries rather then Glacial itself.

ToadwartJul 21, 20191 votes

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Braum is easily the worst unit in this game, bar none.

Not since the last patch he isnt. Hes quite good now.

JamareeJul 21, 20191 votes

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Not since the last patch he isnt. Hes quite good now.

I think his ultimate is still too unreliable and with how low his base AS is, the chances of it actually stopping ranged skills is so low.

zepdrixJul 21, 20191 votes

I think that the freezing effect should have some type of diminishing return. Maybe the freeze lasts 75% as long for subsequent applications.

Example: Volibear auto freezes someone for 2 seconds, Ashe arrow freezes the same target, now for 1.5 seconds, another Volibear auto freezes the same target, now for 1.1 seconds.

Glacial feels almost balanced at this point though, so they would need something in order to compensate for this big of a change. Maybe like +5% chance to freeze at each level. I dunno.