@Riot, is Xerath huge in lore?

Fasmodey·Apr 21, 2015·2 votes·7,601 views

There is some champions like Malphite, Skarner, Rek'Sai got some limited size. Is Xerath one of them? Some can ask what is the reason to think about it. There are 2 reasons:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-b33MRpndqZc/VA28sP87ySI/AAAAAAAAXrM/k8N3AtRQ9a4/s1600/10688275_10154704929310556_6177128467653466325_o.jpg

1 - In revealed Fall of Shurima lore pictures Xerath is so big, even compared to ascended brothers who are probably bigger than actual human size.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WN2GoCI6K1U/VR5RWSKRPzI/AAAAAAAAAc4/9th557mh7Bc/s1600/Skarner_Splash_4.jpg

2 - GOTS Xerath splash art. Xerath is in background and still bigger than Skarner and Rammus.

33 Comments

Ebonmaw DragonApr 21, 20155 votes

I suppose that he must have the same size that he has on the "Ascension" Game Mode... in comparison with Renekton/Nasus

Tesla EffectApr 21, 20151 votes

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I suppose that he must have the same size that he has on the "Ascension" Game Mode... in comparison with Renekton/Nasus

A mountain side carving can be enlarged for a bigger impact, Reksai seemed tall as a one, maybe even two storied house (which can range from 2-3 meters depending on what house we are talking about). And the carving is old, who says Reksai wasnt younger back then. A Xersai a pretty small when its young and Reksai was yonger back then. http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20141211015801/leagueoflegends/images/7/7e/Rek%27Sai_-_Scourge_of_the_Desert_04.png

FasmodeyApr 21, 20151 votes

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A mountain side carving can be enlarged for a bigger impact, Reksai seemed tall as a one maybe, even two storied house. And the carving is old, who says Reksai wasnt younger back then. A Xersai a pretty small when its young and Reksai was yonger back then. http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20141211015801/leagueoflegends/images/7/7e/Rek%27Sai_-_Scourge_of_the_Desert_04.png

If she was young in picture that I send that makes Renekton not much bigger. Still not important, our topic is about Xerath and he is a corrupted ascended. The the most difference ascended compared to others. I want a reveal about this from rioters. Please...

Tesla EffectApr 21, 20151 votes

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If she was young in picture that I send that makes Renekton not much bigger. Still not important, our topic is about Xerath and he is a corrupted ascended. The the most difference ascended compared to others. I want a reveal about this from rioters. Please...

Now it all has connections. If we know the sizes of young Reksai, we know the size of Renekton, and if we know the size of Renekton, we know the size of Xerath, its connecting the dots thing.

FasmodeyApr 21, 20151 votes

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Now it all has connections. If we know the sizes of young Reksai, we know the size of Renekton, and if we know the size of Renekton, we know the size of Xerath, its connecting the dots thing.

You can't know Xerath's size because he is so different than other ascendeds. In first place he is not anthropomorphic animal. It's enough to know he is not like others.

Tesla EffectApr 21, 20151 votes

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You can't know Xerath's size because he is so different than other ascendeds. In first place he is not anthropomorphic animal. It's enough to know he is not like others.

But you used the lore image showing him, Nasus and Renekteon in it. If use that as a basis for figuring out his size, the next logical step is to see how tall are the other ones shown in the picture, Renekton who has a picture with Reksai.....do you get where Im going with this, easy evaluation by analyzing other related data.

FasmodeyApr 21, 20151 votes

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But you used the lore image showing him, Nasus and Renekteon in it. If use that as a basis for figuring out his size, the next logical step is to see how tall are the other ones shown in the picture, Renekton who has a picture with Reksai.....do you get where Im going with this, easy evaluation by analyzing other related data.

Yeah it looks like i contradicted with myself but i believe Xerath is still bigger than actual human and may be Vel'Koz size.

Edit: When I saw Vel'Koz pictures may be half of Vel'Koz size lol. So big but still weak against Xerath.

Ebonmaw DragonApr 22, 20151 votes

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I suppose that he must have the same size that he has on the "Ascension" Game Mode... in comparison with Renekton/Nasus

By the way... why no one has mentioned that the picture that the OP posted is only a "drawing", and may not be in real scale?

Tesla EffectApr 22, 20152 votes

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By the way... why no one has mentioned that the picture that the OP posted is only a "drawing", and may not be in real scale?

Like the Reksai vs Renekton one, possibly. Art like that is very iffy and Shuriman art tends to be more symbolic rather than accurate (like in ancient Egypt and what Bioluminesence said about the Shuriman map being more of a symbolic depiction of Shurima, not the most accurate one).

Tesla EffectApr 22, 20154 votes

I feel like I have a creeper following my every comment, downvoting like a little Gollum in its cave. I feel sorry for him, he must be in a lot of childish rage because of something irrelevant to be honest.

GenoXxApr 22, 20153 votes

So do i.....literrally every comment u have here is down voted.....dont worry i've had this same thing happened to me

SharjoApr 22, 20153 votes

I literally upvoted you here because I'm weirded out by the fact this seems true.

turkeyBACONApr 22, 20156 votes

Just so its clear i just downvoted this cause its off topic.

Tesla EffectApr 22, 20151 votes

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Just so its clear i just downvoted this cause its off topic.

Oh my god. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/Paris_Tuileries_Garden_Facepalm_statue.jpg No its not!

ShínyApr 21, 20152 votes

Just as a little more evidence, here's some more official artwork that shows off xerath's size. http://th03.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2014/176/5/8/league_of_legends_youtube_banner_by_su_ke-d7nzyi4.jpg

FasmodeyApr 21, 20151 votes

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Just as a little more evidence, here's some more official artwork that shows off xerath's size. http://th03.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2014/176/5/8/league_of_legends_youtube_banner_by_su_ke-d7nzyi4.jpg

I never had see him in this picture oh my gosh. Pretty cool but it still doesn't show how much big he is compared to others because he is in background again.

that grammar drown you in tears i know.

GreenLoreApr 22, 20151 votes

Actually you can compare him to lucian who is directly in front of xerth. So yeah Xerath seems to be pretty big(or Lucian is just really small xD)

Tesla EffectApr 22, 20152 votes

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Actually you can compare him to lucian who is directly in front of xerth. So yeah Xerath seems to be pretty big(or Lucian is just really small xD)

Lucians overall build doesnt suggest him being small. He ether average height or something a bit the average height. Never the less. To me it feels like Xerath is the same height as Morderkaiser. (2-3 meters sort of thing). Now maybe he gets larger with larger amount of Ascension energy. Renekton and Nasus show cases of height morphing, though is this because of other magical means or because their Ascendant being whole makeup gives them the ability to do such things. Azir doesnt show any case of height morphing due to only recently becoming ascendant and his general kit only reflects the early use of his ascendant powers ( the sand soldiers thing). Nasus and Renekton have been ascendant for a longer time than azir (even before the croc went crazy), they may gained more knowledge about height morphing over the years. Now Xeraths reasons can be explained by his initial scholar knowledge of the Ascension ritual, he got the knowledge before he became that kind of being. But as we all know, the a perfect performance of the ritual requiers the soul to be of a pure hearth, Xerath had revenge on his plan so thats why his transformation wasnt perfect, even if he knew much of the rituals sets (the Sun Disk or something much more powerful and celestial has the final saying, not you) .

Xerath may have only been temporarily larger as shown in the Shuriman artwork, but due to his flawed ascension and his impisonment in the sacrophagas, his ability to morph his height is severed, similar to how Darth Vader can not be in his full potential mode due to his suit.

FasmodeyApr 23, 20152 votes

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Lucians overall build doesnt suggest him being small. He ether average height or something a bit the average height. Never the less. To me it feels like Xerath is the same height as Morderkaiser. (2-3 meters sort of thing). Now maybe he gets larger with larger amount of Ascension energy. Renekton and Nasus show cases of height morphing, though is this because of other magical means or because their Ascendant being whole makeup gives them the ability to do such things. Azir doesnt show any case of height morphing due to only recently becoming ascendant and his general kit only reflects the early use of his ascendant powers ( the sand soldiers thing). Nasus and Renekton have been ascendant for a longer time than azir (even before the croc went crazy), they may gained more knowledge about height morphing over the years. Now Xeraths reasons can be explained by his initial scholar knowledge of the Ascension ritual, he got the knowledge before he became that kind of being. But as we all know, the a perfect performance of the ritual requiers the soul to be of a pure hearth, Xerath had revenge on his plan so thats why his transformation wasnt perfect, even if he knew much of the rituals sets (the Sun Disk or something much more powerful and celestial has the final saying, not you) .

Xerath may have only been temporarily larger as shown in the Shuriman artwork, but due to his flawed ascension and his impisonment in the sacrophagas, his ability to morph his height is severed, similar to how Darth Vader can not be in his full potential mode due to his suit.

Where it has been said that ritual needs pure heart?

CenturosApr 21, 20152 votes

He looks a foot or three taller than Lucian, which is pretty much my headcanon for Nasus or Renekton in Ult Mode.

Still doesn't hold a candle to Vel'Koz's ridiculous size discrepancy (between game and lore).

aaronconlinApr 24, 20151 votes

or Nautilus

Tesla EffectApr 21, 20151 votes

Azir isnt that taller than Sivir. Do high differences vary so much with the Ascendant?

FasmodeyApr 21, 20151 votes

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Azir isnt that taller than Sivir. Do high differences vary so much with the Ascendant?

They're not a actual race.

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20141211015804/leagueoflegends/images/3/3f/Rek'Sai_-_Scourge_of_the_Desert_08.png

You can see silhouettes of Rek'Sai and Renekton in left-middle. As we know, Rek'Sai is pretty big. But when you looked up this picture Renekton is just a little bit smaller than Rek'Sai.

SharjoApr 22, 20151 votes

Likely because the mural was made over a millennia ago, when Rek'Sai wasn't nearly as big. She's been around long enough to get to an outrageous size.

lightdragoon88Apr 21, 20151 votes

Kind of wish he was in Creator Viktor or Battlecast Vel'koz splash now so we could get a size chart.

BTW: those arts do show that Vel'koz is very big.

Tesla EffectApr 21, 20151 votes

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Kind of wish he was in Creator Viktor or Battlecast Vel'koz splash now so we could get a size chart.

BTW: those arts do show that Vel'koz is very big.

Velkoz is very Big in-lore. http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20141010235031/leagueoflegends/images/0/03/Velkoz_promo.jpg The tips of one of his tentacles are large as half a Helmet Bro.

PS: Wouldnt use skin art as examples for champion specific information, should usually stick only to the classic ones to be more accurate. And while its brought up I dont see Gots Xerath to be any larger than Xerath since he is a bit back of them, but not by much (depth perception and all that jazz, you know).

lightdragoon88Apr 21, 20151 votes

Skins shows a good size too.

http://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/img/champion/splash/Velkoz_1.jpg

http://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/img/champion/splash/Velkoz_2.jpg

Both show just how big compare to Viktor and Helmet Bro.

Ebonmaw DragonApr 21, 20151 votes

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PS: Wouldnt use skin art as examples for champion specific information, should usually stick only to the classic ones to be more accurate. And while its brought up I dont see Gots Xerath to be any larger than Xerath since he is a bit back of them, but not by much (depth perception and all that jazz, you know).

Agreed: If we count skins, Aatrox is the biggest champion in the lore.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Y7Us_cn5Xek/hqdefault.jpg

Tesla EffectApr 21, 20152 votes

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Agreed: If we count skins, Aatrox is the biggest champion in the lore.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Y7Us_cn5Xek/hqdefault.jpg

Thats Mecha Aatrox, I dont see him being the real Aatrox, he is just a mechanical construct that looks a lot like him. And given how it looks so much like Gypsy Danger, I believe it has the same function of a piloted mech.

As I said, most skins do their own thing, so the size of the champion there should not be used in these situations. They are not part of the main lore universe.

Ebonmaw DragonApr 21, 20151 votes

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Thats Mecha Aatrox, I dont see him being the real Aatrox, he is just a mechanical construct that looks a lot like him. And given how it looks so much like Gypsy Danger, I believe it has the same function of a piloted mech.

As I said, most skins do their own thing, so the size of the champion there should not be used in these situations. They are not part of the main lore universe.

Exactly, that is the point, the zise of Battlecast Velkoz is bigger than the normal Velkoz (splash art)