The new Fiora splash looks like the old one done by a less talented artist.

Tendrian·Jul 21, 2015·237 votes·43,267 views

Okay, I actually really like what they did with her gameplay wise, but this splash art is a travesty.

http://i.imgur.com/H9Ush0g.jpg http://i.imgur.com/iAwR9PP.jpg

If these two pictures were shown to me without context, I would assume the second one is the outdated, several years old splash from the time when Riot couldn't afford decent artists, and the first one is the all new shiny upgrade. It's not even that the new splash brings anything different to the table than the old one - it's pretty much the exact same pose in front of a similar background, just drawn with a worse art style. There have been quite a few downgrades in terms of splash arts recently (rip Kata), but this one has to take the cake.

And please Riot, don't try to fix this by editing the new, ugly splash. If anything, edit her new clothes to her existing splashart. The new splash really isn't salvagable at all - it's simply a worse version of the old one.

202 Comments

XonraJul 21, 201569 votes

The old one looks like a "badass chick" ready to get into a fight.

The new one looks like the witch from sleeping beauty woke up angry, cropped onto Fiora, with a hair change.

Neo CyrusJul 21, 201524 votes

At this point it's pretty obvious they're going out of their way to make the remakes of splash arts uglier for whatever reason. Their goal had to be "ugly", that's the only explanation.

Edit: I almost forgot the mandatory images of the in-game model, prepare your tears -

http://media-titanium.cursecdn.com/attachments/67/663/fiorabasemv.jpg

http://media-titanium.cursecdn.com/attachments/67/664/fioranightravenmv.jpg

http://media-titanium.cursecdn.com/attachments/67/665/fioramusketeermv.jpg

http://media-titanium.cursecdn.com/attachments/67/666/fioraheadmistressmv.jpg

Can anyone honestly tell me that a face like that on any character is alright?

MigrañaboyJul 21, 20159 votes

Lol, they covered the 3rd skin cleavage.

Neo CyrusJul 22, 201510 votes

Yeah they reduce and cover cleavage during every update. Even if it's less noticeable like the 4th pic.

HurdyGurdyJul 22, 201519 votes

WTF Is wrong with that hair ?? It looks like it´s made out of plastic

Rew711Jul 22, 201514 votes

Takes Fiora out of Oven to check if ready.

Notices Fiora is not ready.

Shows to public for opinion.

Public asks for Fiora to be cooked longer.

Sits and waits, pondering over if I should or not.

Rito Thoughts

Deserted SandJul 22, 20153 votes

(Imagine I'm screaming this)

Oh my god, how in the world can they ruin a school teacher? She looks, no, that is not the skin I bought, like holy crap. No. Just no.

NO. item 3070 item 3073

Craft ZeppelinJul 21, 201539 votes

The textures of her hair waving in the air is sheer skill of artwork on the previous splash.

GapyboJul 21, 201539 votes

She is balding heavily. But seriously the old one has a much better face and expression. I love the smirk.

aaronconlinJul 21, 201525 votes

While I don't think it's lower "quality", I prefer the old one. The quality of the new splash itself is nice, it's a sharper, cleaner image with a better resolution.

The art itself, however... Fiora's face and hair are bad. Her facial features are way too pronounced, Riot's signature pointy chin, along with huge cheekbones and a red nose. Her old hairstyle was much better too

PL55Jul 21, 201522 votes

The first one was more more realistic, vivid, and showed more depth to her character. This new one is pretty much some disney character.

Vistha KaiJul 21, 201521 votes

I agree there are some quirks, but you are just insulting the dude.

Pros:

It's sharper.
It's nearly the same pose.
It's more details.

Cons:

Pink stripe, ugh.
Lacks armor.

Wait... did you just write "it's lower quality"? I bet you always change videos on YouTube to 144p, because 720p is of "too low quality".

TendrianJul 21, 201530 votes

I agree there are some quirks, but you are just insulting the dude.

Sry but if Riot delivers bad artwork, I will point it out. That is called "Feedback". The splash is atrocious compared to the old one, and there's no reason to sugarcoat it.

KoKobotoJul 21, 20158 votes

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Sry but if Riot delivers bad artwork, I will point it out. That is called "Feedback". The splash is atrocious compared to the old one, and there's no reason to sugarcoat it.

Theres a difference between feedback and being a cunt

KeevalroyJul 21, 201511 votes

There's also a difference between being open to criticism and stonewalling complaints.

What the hell is this Ahri ?? Because her's was received so poorly that they took it down for multiple months (far more time than it would have taken to make a new splash) then almost the exact same piece was posted again which made it look worse, yet they decided to keep it anyway regardless of feedback.

Vistha KaiJul 21, 20155 votes

Changes to new Ahri splash were done after the feedback from the community. On top of that those changes were 10/10 what feedback - different than "OMFG RIOT DON'T CHANGE SPLASH IDIOTS" - was all about.

Now you disregard that part because it doesn't fit your argument or because your logic is completely flawed.

KeevalroyJul 21, 20157 votes

Completely flawed? It's still the same art that caused reason for complaint. It didn't change. Minimal additions were added that were missing from her character completely, yet the actual art was still the same picture. Then the face change happened which made it look even worse.

KoKobotoJul 22, 20152 votes

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There's also a difference between being open to criticism and stonewalling complaints.

What the hell is this ?? Because her's was received so poorly that they took it down for multiple months (far more time than it would have taken to make a new splash) then almost the exact same piece was posted again which made it look worse, yet they decided to keep it anyway regardless of feedback.

water you talking about they changed the old Ahri splash art and made it a lot better, she used to look like a chipmunk And this comment is not even related to my one ==

KeevalroyJul 22, 20153 votes

And this comment is not even related to my one ==

Using her as an example of how little feedback matters.

Wero34Jul 21, 201518 votes

Fiora aged so old than his red streaks goes pink

KychiiiJul 22, 20153 votes

"His"

69399089_DELJul 21, 201517 votes

I don't think it's worse at all. It's a just an entirely different art style as well as a different design for Fiora. Although I'm not a fan of the strange hair part and accentuated cheekbones/chin and I did prefer her old splash, I think the artist(s) did an amazing job with the new one and It's a bit unfair that you are judging the artist(s) based on the design of the drawn character and not the quality of the art itself. If you judging Fiora's new design, thats different entirely. I give huge props to every artist at Riot.

Twin RoyalJul 21, 201515 votes

Bring in the artist of Captain Fortune. Fiora needs more help than the Pirates. Fiora

Trading AcesJul 21, 201513 votes

Stylized doesn't mean "less talented". It means stylized. Though yes, the style isn't all that appealing.

Popstar AhriJul 21, 201510 votes

First they just had to remove my beloved 2011-2015 Ahri splash art to the one we have now...

second they have to replace the old kat splash art to the one we have now

and now Fiora too?...

wtf? why can't we keep all the old splash art that we used to have last year?

KeevalroyJul 22, 20157 votes

wtf? why can't we keep all the old splash art that we used to have last year?

Because Riot, like Blizzard, has an obsessive need to fix things that aren't broken while letting the broken pieces go unattended to.

BrahmsauceJul 22, 20158 votes

"If these two pictures were shown to me without context, I would assume the second one is the outdated, several years old splash from the time when Riot couldn't afford decent artists, and the first one is the all new shiny upgrade."

This is so true it hurts.

TrídentJul 22, 20158 votes

The new one looks like she's made out of rubber or plastic.

NemeBroJul 21, 20157 votes

Yeah, the splash art is pretty bad. Not only does it look bad on its own, but it completely changed what Fiora looked like. I don't give a fuck about whether or not you prefer her new look to her old look, a lot of people liked her old look. Why did it need to be changed?

Older visual updates did just that, they updated the character's design.

This has replaced it.

StaraptorJul 22, 20157 votes

I think calling the artist "less talented" is a little unfair. The second pic is better technique-wise, more action in the pose and things are very clear compared to the old, kind of fuzzy Fiora. Now, it's not the best ever. Her facial features need to be toned down a tad to make her look less evil-queen and more sophisticated, but that's most likely on whoever designed new Fiora, not solely the splash artist.

I like the background colors of the old splash, though, and am a little confused as to why they didn't put any stained glass in the new one, considering that's basically what her ult puts down. Other than that and the face I think the splash is on par with or even better than the old.

ULTRA RAMOOSEJul 22, 20153 votes

Fiora went from a hot french woman to an old tranny, yes, the artist is not talented at all. There seems to be an artist on their team that turns all the women into men, not sure what the artist is trying to do, but... it's not the goods for ten cent's customers.

frost shinigamiJul 22, 20154 votes

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Fiora went from a hot french woman to an old tranny, yes, the artist is not talented at all. There seems to be an artist on their team that turns all the women into men, not sure what the artist is trying to do, but... it's not the goods for ten cent's customers.

Probably try to make the female cast of the game uglier to debunk any arguments about ''sexism''.

HupsisJul 21, 20156 votes

The new one looks like it's trying to fit with the recent art style Riot has been using on their splash art. Nothing wrong with that.

The old one is more artistic imo. For League I'd say the new one is better. In general the old one is more interesting.

iltJul 22, 20156 votes

why is riot changing their art into a cartoony DOTA Disney style?

Dragonis GardiaJul 22, 20156 votes

The new artwork is awful....

PlushBoresJul 21, 20155 votes

the old splash look sexy but the new one is soo ugly

AproximaJul 21, 20155 votes

Aside of the obligatory question of where all her organs would fit in, I have to agree the new splash is bad. It's not so much about the art quality as more about art direction, which if you look back you can very clearly see shifting. At first it was really just improving the splashes while focusing on representing the champions. Then someone came up with the briliant idea of placing them in weird places and position, overall distracting it from the champion themself ((at least personally I think that's not what a splash art should be about. Don't get me wrong most of them are really solid art pieces, just not appropriate for splash arts.)) Now it seems they figured out what makes a splash art a splash art.

And now they're in the period of preferring very modern, but a lot of times not fitting overly accentuated shapes. It doesn't matter all that much on the body, but it really makes the faces look wierd. The recent arts look overly stylized (especially faces), making it look like some cell shaded flat polygon whatever. After all people look more like in the older arts than the newer. Not many people have features like they were made with a chisel and finished by a razor blade for good measure.

My two cents. (( PS: Sorry for the bad english, I couldn't really see what I was typing. )) PS2: I wonder if RIOT will ever dare to make an anatomically accurate portrayal of a human body.

Glorious LesbianJul 21, 20155 votes

Please just change her hair back. Red streaks and parted at the side, not the middle. THis isn't Fiora at all.

MVDuneCatsJul 22, 20155 votes

Fiora's new face looks gaunt and malnourished, or like she had (bad) plastic surgery.

MasqureManJul 22, 20155 votes

These complaints are so outrageous. To me, the first one's face looks too vague and the second looks updated and defined.

RistosJul 23, 20155 votes

Riot some how managed to turn one of the most visually appealing champions into a bad disney villain and with her in game model she turns into a plastic toy Fiora had a massive downgrade and I severely hope that they don't go through with it

CastaneanJul 22, 20154 votes

I don't really think it's as much about the splash as it immediately seems. It could be an issue with the VASTLY different feel of the design compared to the old one. They fancied Fiora's design up and made it a bit more modern, which in turn detracted a bit of the "Elegance" or "Grace" her old design had... This makes me worry a little that redesigned Taric wont look as fabulous as present day Taric.

Though on the good side; The new splash is really well drawn and the colors are much clearer than the old splash. The background is also drop-dead gorgeous and makes me despair in my shitty artistic abilities, causing me to curse my unsteady hands and wish I could draw pretty things.

But seriously. If they're gonna keep this splash I feel they could at least fix up Fiora's chin and left leg a bit(legs don't bend like that.) Perhaps tone down the "Shine" on her skin a bit too.

TendrianJul 22, 20153 votes

I don't really think it's as much about the splash as it immediately seems. It could be an issue with the VASTLY different feel of the design compared to the old one.

No, not at all. The gorgeous lighting from the original is gone completely, the perspective and the background are infinitely worse, and the beautifully drawn hair and face of the old splash are nowhere to be seen as well. It feels like a cheap knockoff of the old one.

The new splash is really well drawn and the colors are much clearer than the old splash. The background is also drop-dead gorgeous

I heavily disagree with that.

CastaneanJul 22, 20153 votes

The lighting in the old one, while indeed containing lots of color, was a bit blurrier and a bit more... "Muddy" I've heard it described. The new splash on the other hand has crystal clear lighting, and despite being just white, it feels more natural.

The window in the old splash was much more intricate and indeed, very, very pretty, is kinda broken a bit by the muddy lighting. The new splash's crisp, clear lighting through that window... By god would that be beautiful. The new splash's window is more minimalistic, but it's still pretty. Simplicity is easier on the eyes. I can easily see it wouldn't be to everyone's taste though.

As for the background as a whole; It may not be entirely to your taste, and that's okay. Nothing wrong with opinions. But you cannot deny that it's drawn well.

And Fiora's hair... While I'm not a particularly big fan of the cut or the pink streaks instead of red, I prefer the new splash's way of drawing it. The old one seems a bit... Messy. Fiora is a noblewoman, so I kinda expect her hair to be neat, despite her being a duelist.

I'd love to hear your opinion on what exactly makes the new splash so awful in your opinion though. I've just found it a bit hard to pinpoint exactly what you dislike about the new splash (Besides Fiora's chin and cheek problems.)

TendrianJul 22, 20151 votes

The lighting in the old one, while indeed containing lots of color, was a bit blurrier and a bit more... "Muddy" I've heard it described.

This can pretty much be chalked up to the fact that her original splash is already more than 3 years old and somewhat low-res compared to the art Riot puts out today. Nothing that couldn't be fixed by going over the old one and cleaning it up a bit.

The new splash on the other hand has crystal clear lighting, and despite being just white, it feels more natural.

You call it "natural", I call it "bland and boring". The lighting in the original was awesome because of the contrast it created - Fiora with black and silver armor standing in front of the golden window looked incredible. Now it's what? Fiora in a bland white shirt standing in front of a bland white window.

As for the background as a whole; It may not be entirely to your taste, and that's okay. Nothing wrong with opinions. But you cannot deny that it's drawn well.

I have no idea why they gratuitously added all the architecture to the picture. The old splash was great because it completely focused on Fiora, standing in front of the light in shining armor. The stair and the bannner in the new one are decently drawn, but they have no business being in that picture as far as I am concerned. All they do is draw focus away from what the splash is supposed to show.

And Fiora's hair... While I'm not a particularly big fan of the cut or the pink streaks instead of red, I prefer the new splash's way of drawing it. The old one seems a bit... Messy. Fiora is a noblewoman, so I kinda expect her hair to be neat, despite her being a duelist.

Her hair isn't messy, she's supposed to be in motion, jumping forward or spinning around. You know, things a duelist does. It's actually one of the few instances where Riot's "action pose" obsession didn't end up looking forced or completely out of place. The new splash goes for the exact same thing btw - it's just hard to see because the hair is so badly drawn. It doesn't even look like hair, it looks like a single piece of plastic, drawn with two brush strokes, that she's wearing as a hat. Meanwhile, you can almost count the individual hair in the old one. It looks so much better it's not even funny.

The head in general is by far the worst part of the splash. Not only looks her hair cheaply drawn, her face can only be described as a mess. Her original face looks actually natural - the new one makes me think of a barbie puppet with too much makeup, stylised to the point of grotesque.

I'd love to hear your opinion on what exactly makes the new splash so awful in your opinion though. I've just found it a bit hard to pinpoint exactly what you dislike about the new splash (Besides Fiora's chin and cheek problems.)

When looking at both pictures, the impression I get from the new one is pretty much that an artist wanted to recreate the old one, but completely failed to see why it works as a picture. So he just took every element of the old one and threw it together in a new picture that is worse in pretty much every aspect apart from those that can be chalked up to the age of the original. The new splash simply feels like a cheap knockoff of the old one.

Also, everything I mentioned above.

CastaneanJul 22, 20153 votes

Respectable points and opinions. I can see why you'd prefer the older splash.

Though, I think that just like with the new one, there ARE issues with the old one too.

For instance; You talk of motion. So I have a question. Which way is old Fiora moving? Her hair suggests she's moving backwards, but her cape-y... things as well as her leg placements suggest she's going forwards. So does her posture with the Rapier too, actually. Looking at the window in the background... Fiora is either standing very diagonally, highly suggesting she's basically running forwards, which would conflict with her hair motion, or the building is built diagonally.

I don't think the perspective on the new splash is too bad either. It shows off what Fiora actually looks like better than the old splash, showing her entire face. That's a pretty big part of what the splash art does, isn't it? Giving a look at what your champion looks like in details the in-game model does not. (That, and of course to show who the heck you're actually fighting.)

As for why New-Fiora's hair looks "Cheaply Drawn," I think that's more an issue of how exactly the hair is cut. It's cut in straight cuts, which kind of causes that kind of effect visually. The hot-pink streams probably don't help that a bit either. What makes Old-Fiora's hair look "Messy" to me though is probably caused by the muddy lighting. If they DID touch up on her old splash, it'd probably look much nicer.

The new splash definitely has issues, mostly with Fiora's head, but IMHO, it's not that bad and could have been way, WAY worse.

In the end though; That's all these are. Opinions. If this is the way Fiora stays, so be it. Her new kit looks way to fun for me to let splash related issues stop me from playing her. It doesn't even really matter to me, since I'll probably be using the Royal Guard skin anyway. (which, by the way, looks really nice on the updated Fiora!)

AtukoJul 22, 20154 votes

This entire thread is such a huge exaggeration. It's obvious that the new art is of better quality overall, you may not like how like currently /looks/, but the new art is certainly better quality, better lines, clearer, sharper.

SukishooJul 22, 20154 votes

How at all is this a "worse" version of the original? The current one is old, very grainy, little detail... and so much less then this new one

BakedLotionJul 21, 20153 votes

You know the second one is newer because of the color contrast, but overall its bad. If the first one was a little brighter it would be a bit better. (its already better but still)

VladLighthandedJan 14, 20163 votes

I am a digital artist myself, and I prefer the old splash art, ten times before the new one. I hate the new look and attitude of the character. She looks like Megan Fox (a bloody Barbie), like in the older one she looked like a true strong female character, ready to slice you into pieces. I don't like many of the new art Riot is using, and I prefer the old ones in cases like Fiora's art.