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IT'S DANISH!!!!

Electro522··6 votes·1,443 views

https://youtu.be/e47AEBnu9SQ

I figured you out Riot! You used Danish either directly, or as a VERY strong basis for "Ancient Freljordian". Don't believe me? Here's the lyrics translated to Danish.

Mørke røg udåndes, fra bjerghalvdelen Og vinden blæser gennem hule dells Skies klar som dag, skal snart blive grå Og du ved, du nærmer dig Ornn

At fjerne din vej er en kløft bred Howls stiger fra fathomless pits Men tæt står en bro, der er frosset efter tiden Og på tværs finder du Ornn

Ildflod, der skyr jorden Belyser hans kongerige af sten Og stål synger sin tone, som en gud står alene Den formende hånd, vi kender som Ornn

Gnister spring og flyver, fra den stjernefaldne malm Smedning hans værker guddommelig Bellows udbrud, med uhæmmet kraft Ikke længere tabt - Mountainsmith, Ornn.

There are differences, but, I think you can blame that on Google Translate not being able to translate perfectly. There could be use of slang and synonyms in the song, and, Google Translate has never been perfect.

But, you cannot tell me that the amount of similarities doesn't point to it being Danish.

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The God of Cakes6 votes

Fits pretty well, but there are some mistakes in your translation. As a Dane, I'll try and list those I can:

"Mørke" should me "Mørkt".

I've honestly never heard the word "dells".

"Skies" would actually be "Himler".

Barring means "spærring", something that blocks your path, in this case a chasm.

"Howls" should be "Hyl". ("howls" is literally just english, not even translated)

"Fathomless" can be translated to words like "bundløs" (bottomless), "evig" (forever), etc. In context to the song, it means howls are coming from bottomless pits.

"Frosset efter tid" -> "Frosset af tid". "Af" means "By". Could also be "frosset gennem tid"

"And across, you'll soon find Ornn". This is a tricky one because of some words having multiple meanings. The correct translation would either be: "Og på den anden side, vil du snart finde Ornn", or "På tværs, vil du snart finde Ornn". The song sounds mostly like the second one, so lets go with that.

"Ildflod, der skyr jorden" should be "Flod af ild, der brænder jorden". "Skyr" means to Shun something or someone.

In this context, "som" in "som en gud står alene" should be "mens". This is because the "as" isn't there to compare the steel to a god, because then it would be "as a god that stands alone", but to signify the two things happening at the same time.

"Smedning has værker, guddommelige", not "Smedning hans værker guddommelig". punctuation is important!

"Bellows udbrud, med uhæmmet kraft" should be "Brøl (or words akin to roar) udbryder, med uhæmmet kræft".

Even though it's a title, and therefor wouldn't usually be translated, "The Mountainsmith" would be "Bjærgsmeden".

I would like to set up the song as it should be, but I don't have the time. And with these grammatical mistakes corrected in your text, it actually fits what they sing in the song even better!

Electro5222 votes

I was wondering when a native Dane would come in here. Thank you! I know that there are many mistakes, Google Translate kind of butchered it, but was close enough to point it out.

I have to ask though, weren't you able to recognize the lyrics right away, when you first heard the song? Or, is there something else going on in the song that made even native Danish speakers think this was something else?

The God of Cakes2 votes

I did notice that it sounded a bit like Danish, but I never thought about it being based upon it. Honestly, I think this is what ancient nord language sounded like. (if you can even say "ancient nord". It's "oldnordisk" in Danish.)

Edit: Checked Google translate, and it says it's called Old Norse. Not that it makes sense either, because "old" in Danish is "gammel". Maybe we should just stay away from Google translate...

Electro5221 votes

Haha! I'm ok with that. I'll try and make another post with the correct grammar and what not thanks to your help.

If there's anything else you can point out, feel free to do so. Specifically, I want to ask about line 3 and 7.

For "skies", its clear she doesn't use "himler", but something more like "shia". In fact, the sentence sounds like "Shia de klar". Is this correct?

For line 7, it honestly sounds like she uses "fathomless", but my focus is on "pits". It kind of sounds like she uses "screw". Does danish have anything that sounds like that?

The God of Cakes1 votes

It sounds like she is saying "Shia da klar". I'm not sure why it's Shia, as I can't come up with any Northern language where that is the word for sky. It might just be a word Riot made themselves.

For "pits" (which is line 6, not 7) she's pretty much saying "grube" but with a powerful accent. This is very much akin to those damn Swedes, that pretty much sing when they speak. In Swedish, they pronounce the words a lot differently from how they are written, to get a more fluid effect in the language. For reference, "grube" is a special kind of mine.

LongHair Fox1 votes

'Skyer der klar' fits Norwegian. In danish 'skyer' means clouds but for Norwegian it can also means skies. Agree with the god of cakes on everything else.

LongHair Fox1 votes

'Old' is an old Danish word we shared with the english. It is used more often in Norwegian but it is still used in sentences such as 'old gammel', meaning really old. It is pronounced as 'åld'.

The God of Cakes1 votes

I know what it means (and how it's pronounced, I'm from Denmark), but the English word "old" is "gammel" in Danish, while "old gammel" would be more akin to "ancient".

This is why it doesn't really fit, when its called "old norse" in English but "oldnordisk" in Danish.

Leyin2 votes

Frejord is a region in the north , sure that they use keltic languages, you can also figure out similea with Swedish and other languages

BadMoney3 votes

Swedish and Danish aren't Celtic languages they are Germanic....

Leyin2 votes

i think its an insparation of these languages but not a specific

SEKAI1 votes

Omg, so if I can translate a this poem into Chinese, it means it's based on Chinese roots?

"But, you cannot tell me that the amount of similarities doesn't point to it being Danish." It's almost like the 2 poems are very similar because one is a translated version (into another language) of the other.

lol.

.................

Sure, maybe Riot did draw the poem's inspiration from Danish. But I don't believe how you arrived at the conclusion here is remotely justified.

Electro5225 votes

You miss my point.

Im talking about the language the song is sung in. Listen to it, and read along. You'll see the similarities.

vladmihai2 votes

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You miss my point.

Im talking about the language the song is sung in. Listen to it, and read along. You'll see the similarities.

I hope you know that we can't speak danish or we would've figured that already

Arakadia3 votes

If you translate the ENGLISH writing into DANISH, you can read it along with the singer and what you read is very similar to what she sings.

Arakadia1 votes

Rad find!

Krabohod1 votes

That's pretty dope. It would be good to have full lyrics, but this is super cool finding :)

LongHair Fox1 votes

Hello, Dane here. It is not quite danish, I would link it closer to Norwegian. There are many similarities between the languages, especially in written form but the pronunciation is a lot closer to Norwegian than danish. I also think they put in some english words and some words from a 3rd (or even 4th?) language, but the singer does not always have an extremely clear pronunciation and Norwegian is not my first language so it is hard to say.

Clawenhime1 votes

I found out myself that old freljordian language is put together from danish nowegian and celtic languages but I'm not sure i can trust the sources but i think that maybe if you translated the poem in different languages and serched through the translations maybe they put together the song from different languages and their words but they used only one language to pronounce the song.(sorry for bad grammar I can only speak english fluently, but my writing has many mistakes usually. I'm not English, but I've found out my ancestors were vikings, which has started my facination with germanic and celtic languages)

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