#GiveZedABoyfriend

Zero Skill Tank·May 26, 2016·18 votes·3,293 views

No other champion being LGBT person would break stereotypes more. The society needs him to be gay, just like it needs Cap America to be.

165 Comments

ComeOnAndSlamJamMay 26, 201625 votes

Please don't ruin fiction with politics.

If you want a gay character, go make one up. Don't arbitrarily rework beloved franchises so that they better reflect your politics. That's just a good way to piss off the fan base and wreck shit.

OleandervineMay 26, 20165 votes

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Please don't ruin fiction with politics.

If you want a gay character, go make one up. Don't arbitrarily rework beloved franchises so that they better reflect your politics. That's just a good way to piss off the fan base and wreck shit.

This isn't politics. I get your point, but this is far from politics. This is about gay people wanting to have characters like them in media. Straight, blacks, whites, Asians, Native Americans, Indians, Males, Females, Jews, Muslims, and Christians have so much representation in many kinds of media, video games included. Yet gay characters are so few and far between because of this mindset that you're hiding behind. You don't want to see it because it makes you uncomfortable and you'd rather turn it into a "politics thing that should be removed" instead of learn to accept that people are gay.

ComeOnAndSlamJamMay 26, 201617 votes

Then make new characters. Don't fuck with existing ones, because you want "representation". If you want a gay ninja, but Riot to make a new gay ninja, rather than messing with Zed.

Same with Captain America and whatever else you want to insert your identity politics into.

OleandervineMay 26, 20162 votes

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Then make new characters. Don't fuck with existing ones, because you want "representation". If you want a gay ninja, but Riot to make a new gay ninja, rather than messing with Zed.

Same with Captain America and whatever else you want to insert your identity politics into.

Again, not politics.

DesideriumMay 26, 20162 votes

You have no idea what he's talking about. He's right; you're not.

FasmodeyMay 26, 20169 votes

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You have no idea what he's talking about. He's right; you're not.

I said it before, a new gay character makes it worse. It makes it forced. We have 50-60 champions that possibly have sexualities, and a lot of them are not sexualize clarified. Why would Riot make all of them straight and create a new champion as gay? It is literally saying ''we created a new champion that is totally not sexuality based, have fun with our new gay character! Because we never had gay champions!''

Look, I'm not saying Zed is gay. If you read my comments, im actually one of the people that think Zed is asexual. I commented a lot in here, not because I think Zed is gay. It is because how twisted minded community is. This thread is living example. All of my messages are getting downvoted without any counter argument, just because I'm defending LGBT.

Rand0mH3r0XMay 26, 201611 votes

If you struggle to see an overtly gay character, then they have blended well. Lucian doesn't try hard to be black, he just is. I disapprove of your notion of "LGBT" representation, and what it means.

OleandervineMay 26, 20164 votes

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If you struggle to see an overtly gay character, then they have blended well. Lucian doesn't try hard to be black, he just is. I disapprove of your notion of "LGBT" representation, and what it means.

Lucian is overtly black. Demographic based on skin tone is visible, there's nothing blended or hidden about it. Someone being gay or a lesbian is not overt because it's only something that's made known through written or verbal confirmation, unless you witness them being affectionate with a same sex partner. You can't "witness" gay characters in video games, especially one like this, unless it's told to us in lore or there is official art showing their relationships.

AgamMay 26, 20163 votes

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Lucian is overtly black. Demographic based on skin tone is visible, there's nothing blended or hidden about it. Someone being gay or a lesbian is not overt because it's only something that's made known through written or verbal confirmation, unless you witness them being affectionate with a same sex partner. You can't "witness" gay characters in video games, especially one like this, unless it's told to us in lore or there is official art showing their relationships.

They should give Grave's back his cigar to represent smokers! There is nothing lore that says he's not a smoker. Someone being a smoker is not overt because it's only something that's made known through written or verbal confirmation, unless you witness them smoking. You can't "witness" smoking characters in video games, especially one like this, unless it's told to us in lore or there is official art showing their smoking.

OleandervineMay 26, 20162 votes

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They should give Grave's back his cigar to represent smokers! There is nothing lore that says he's not a smoker. Someone being a smoker is not overt because it's only something that's made known through written or verbal confirmation, unless you witness them smoking. You can't "witness" smoking characters in video games, especially one like this, unless it's told to us in lore or there is official art showing their smoking.

Smokers are addicts, not a significant social/cultural community.

AgamMay 26, 20166 votes

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Smokers are addicts, not a significant social/cultural community.

You're just a smoke-aphobe and a biggot. Not significant? There are more smokers in the US than gay people in the world.

OleandervineMay 26, 20162 votes

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You're just a smoke-aphobe and a biggot. Not significant? There are more smokers in the US than gay people in the world.

First of all, you're making a mockery of the LGBT community by comparing it to smokers. People who smoke make a choice to smoke, like vegetarians make a choice to not eat meat, or you make a choice to only buy Wonder Bread. The LGBT community is not trivial, they have their own culture and aspect of society. It's frankly insulting that you compare it to a group of addicts, and your comments are unwelcome and irrelevant to the topic. And the relevance of population of smokers to gays is also irrelevant because, again, smokers don't have a social or cultural identity in society. And as far as you know, thone are only the confirmed LGBT people. There are many more that could be closeted or unwilling to divulge it to the census.

AgamMay 26, 20165 votes

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First of all, you're making a mockery of the LGBT community by comparing it to smokers. People who smoke make a choice to smoke, like vegetarians make a choice to not eat meat, or you make a choice to only buy Wonder Bread. The LGBT community is not trivial, they have their own culture and aspect of society. It's frankly insulting that you compare it to a group of addicts, and your comments are unwelcome and irrelevant to the topic. And the relevance of population of smokers to gays is also irrelevant because, again, smokers don't have a social or cultural identity in society. And as far as you know, thone are only the confirmed LGBT people. There are many more that could be closeted or unwilling to divulge it to the census.

People who are LGBT make a choice to be LGBT, like vegetarians make a choice to not eat meat, or you make a choice to only buy Wonder Bread. The Smokers community is not trivial, they have their own culture and aspect of society (Ever heard of smoking jackets, Joe Camel, Marlboro Man, Cigar Clubs, Planet K, etc...) It'ss frankly insulting that you call us a group of addicts, and your comments are unwelcome.

Not relevant to topic? The topic, in case you forgot OP, is REPRESENTATION. We want representation just like you do. Also, the census for smokers could be wrong since minors would be excluded.

OleandervineMay 26, 20162 votes

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People who are LGBT make a choice to be LGBT, like vegetarians make a choice to not eat meat, or you make a choice to only buy Wonder Bread. The Smokers community is not trivial, they have their own culture and aspect of society (Ever heard of smoking jackets, Joe Camel, Marlboro Man, Cigar Clubs, Planet K, etc...) It'ss frankly insulting that you call us a group of addicts, and your comments are unwelcome.

Not relevant to topic? The topic, in case you forgot OP, is REPRESENTATION. We want representation just like you do. Also, the census for smokers could be wrong since minors would be excluded.

This comment is so steeped in ignorance I can't even begin to have a conversation. Why would anyone CHOOSE a lifestyle that will potentially get them shunned and disowned by their family, relatives, and everyone they believe loves them? Your sexuality is not a choice. You didn't choose to be straight any more than I chose to be gay. You don't start equally liking men and women and then decide to prefer one over the other. You don't choose that you feel more comfortable with males in a relationship than you do females, nor do you choose that you're attracted to men over women. Nothing about being LGBT is a choice, other than when you decide to tell the people around you so that you can live a life that isn't constantly shrouded in repression and secrecy. There have been so many studies on this topic that there really isn't an argument against it anymore. Only those running on outdated information and sheer ignorance believe that homosexuality is a choice. Furthermore, smoking IS an addiction. I guarantee that if I hid all your cigarettes, you'd go into a rage when you got a craving, and eventually suffer from headaches, the shakes, and general fatigue as your body fights withdrawal. You are heavily deluding yourself if you believe it isn't addiction. Drug use such as this is a choice. Who you're attracted to is most certainly not. If you cannot come prepared with adequate information regarding the topic at hand, then perhaps this isn't your fight to fight. As for YOUR representation, it's a farce. You want representation for a drug habit, something that has been removed from most media since the 30s, and has been proactively taught in schools to be something that kids want to avoid entirely. You want to show addiction as a fun, normal thing, and such a display can genuinely get naive people messed up if they decide to mimic their favorite character and get addicted to tobacco. Cancer, most notably lung cancer, is the second leading cause of death in the US, with the number 3 being respiratory complications. Want to guess what causes such problems and why education programs have been in place to deter kids from smoking?

FasmodeyMay 26, 20166 votes

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This comment is so steeped in ignorance I can't even begin to have a conversation. Why would anyone CHOOSE a lifestyle that will potentially get them shunned and disowned by their family, relatives, and everyone they believe loves them? Your sexuality is not a choice. You didn't choose to be straight any more than I chose to be gay. You don't start equally liking men and women and then decide to prefer one over the other. You don't choose that you feel more comfortable with males in a relationship than you do females, nor do you choose that you're attracted to men over women. Nothing about being LGBT is a choice, other than when you decide to tell the people around you so that you can live a life that isn't constantly shrouded in repression and secrecy. There have been so many studies on this topic that there really isn't an argument against it anymore. Only those running on outdated information and sheer ignorance believe that homosexuality is a choice. Furthermore, smoking IS an addiction. I guarantee that if I hid all your cigarettes, you'd go into a rage when you got a craving, and eventually suffer from headaches, the shakes, and general fatigue as your body fights withdrawal. You are heavily deluding yourself if you believe it isn't addiction. Drug use such as this is a choice. Who you're attracted to is most certainly not. If you cannot come prepared with adequate information regarding the topic at hand, then perhaps this isn't your fight to fight. As for YOUR representation, it's a farce. You want representation for a drug habit, something that has been removed from most media since the 30s, and has been proactively taught in schools to be something that kids want to avoid entirely. You want to show addiction as a fun, normal thing, and such a display can genuinely get naive people messed up if they decide to mimic their favorite character and get addicted to tobacco. Cancer, most notably lung cancer, is the second leading cause of death in the US, with the number 3 being respiratory complications. Want to guess what causes such problems and why education programs have been in place to deter kids from smoking?

I think he is a troll.

TSwift Is SexyMay 26, 20165 votes

No, it is completely politics. Like he said, make a new gay character. Where do people possibly get the idea that captain America is gay? I mean, come on. Don't take the artist's work and try to force a political agenda on it. Just make a new champ. Make Fred the Flamer (obviously his name wouldn't be this. this is just for the lolz). Then, you get to represent the gay community without changing the original artist's work. Now, if the creators want to make them gay, that's fine. It's their character. But to take a character like James Bond and cast a female part for it? That's just stupid. Make your own female spy. I'm honestly confused as to what is so complicated about it.

UomoAfideMay 26, 20163 votes

Perhaps i understand where lies the problem. As straight people we don't have any problem with anyone saying "Ah, Female X likes Male Y" and we're all like, "Oh, a love story, ok", and i think we wouldn't have all that problem if Taric and Ez suddenly announced "Yep, we're gay", cause if that is accepted and stated clearly by Riot then we have no room to say "Hmm, doesn't convince me. If think they are not", because we know Riot says so, and that makes it canon without much doubt. Now, the problem starts when a champion like Zed doesn't give any hint about his orientation, not because it's bad character design, but because it doesn't matter at all in his story and background. Now, if we are not given any indication we would just assume what we prefer, the majority of course will say that he is straight and i would probably too. But what if one day Riot decided to say that OP theory was correct all along? That Shen and Zed actually had a romantic past? We always go on with the presumption that X character, if not officially stated, has a straight orientation rather than neutral, and here lies the mistake. With our own thought "Nah, Zed cannot be gay, cause... well, i mean he doesn't sound like one... uh, i guess he doesn't really look like one.... ?" we are entering in a false assumption that presuming his homosexuality is basically not correct and that is a hell of a mind trap we're not even aware of. The point is: Zed doesn't have a confirmed orientation and so, it's not exactly wrong to think about the possibility of him being gay, which doesn't exclude the possibility that he could as well be straight, and that means the OP thread is not conceptually wrong in it's premise, but rather he should state better that this is his own personal headcanon about the subject.

TSwift Is SexyMay 26, 20163 votes

Exactly. Nobody here has a problem with a gay champ. The problem is taking a champ already created by an artist and trying to make them turn them randomly gay for no reason whatsoever. I'm not assuming he is heterosexual either. There is nothing in his lore suggesting any type of sexual preference whatsoever. The problem comes by trying to make him have one. For no reason. If the artist intended Zed to have a sexual lore, he would have. He didn't. So why the fuss about making the artist CHANGE his creation?

FasmodeyMay 26, 20166 votes

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Please don't ruin fiction with politics.

If you want a gay character, go make one up. Don't arbitrarily rework beloved franchises so that they better reflect your politics. That's just a good way to piss off the fan base and wreck shit.

You can't ruin a character with changing its sexuality. It is ruined in someone's twisted mind.

What does change if Zed is straight or gay? Literally nothing. He is still going to be a master assassin who seeks to slain Ionian Elders. He is still going to be super cool.

Changing sexuality brings nothing on character but it does on society.

Zero Skill TankMay 26, 20163 votes

NOTHING in Zed's lore says he is straight. It's would not be a rework, but a mere lore update, like they are so common in League.

Revealing character's sexual orientation - again, not changing, revealing - is nothing compared with turning them into a demigod, like Panth or Rammus.

TSwift Is SexyMay 26, 20165 votes

Why are you trying to force your political agenda on rito's artist though? If he wanted Zed to be gay, don't you think he would have made him that way? "nothing says he is straight"....so...then why are you trying to make a big deal about it? Create a new gay character. Doing things like making James Bond a female is just dumb. Make your own characters.

OleandervineMay 26, 20163 votes

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Why are you trying to force your political agenda on rito's artist though? If he wanted Zed to be gay, don't you think he would have made him that way? "nothing says he is straight"....so...then why are you trying to make a big deal about it? Create a new gay character. Doing things like making James Bond a female is just dumb. Make your own characters.

Nothing says he is straight or gay. So then why are you getting so defensive when someone asks for him to be gay to say that there should be a totally new gay character that doesn't "change the artist's original work" when the artist's original work doesn't paint him either way. Unless of course you're assuming he's straight and making him gay breaks that mental image.

TSwift Is SexyMay 26, 20164 votes

when the artist's original work doesn't paint him either way.

That is exactly the point. If the artist wanted him to be a social justice ~~warrior~~ ninja, he would have made him that way.

FasmodeyMay 26, 20163 votes

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That is exactly the point. If the artist wanted him to be a social justice ~~warrior~~ ninja, he would have made him that way.

Thanks to people like you, Riot can't do whatever they want. Because they know how much reaction they will get.

Riot is trying to do make diversity much more than ever. They're making unique female characters, different ethnic members etc. But they're still afraid of making a gay champion.

I can understand them tho. There is a potential gay character in Star Wars, I saw the reactions. I really can understand Riot.

Also, it doesn't matter for people to change someone's sexuality or making new gay character. There will be always homophobia. Poe Dameron is a new character, but even for this, reactions are ridiculous.

TSwift Is SexyMay 26, 20164 votes

No, rito can do whatever they want. Tomorrow they can release a gay ninja champ. Everything is fine. You say they are afraid of making a gay champion, yet what do you call Taric?

I'm going to be honest here. As someone completely for LGBT rights, it's people like you that really bring about the resistant. People that want to try to make random things gay for absolutely no reason at all instead of just making a new character. Nothing in Zed's anything remotely suggests he might be gay. So why the crusade to make him gay? It makes no sense. Just make a gay champ. It's really that simple. Like I said, if Zed's artist had intended him to be a social justice warrior ninja, he would have. He didn't. Sexuality plays absolutely no part in it.

FasmodeyMay 26, 20163 votes

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No, rito can do whatever they want. Tomorrow they can release a gay ninja champ. Everything is fine. You say they are afraid of making a gay champion, yet what do you call Taric?

I'm going to be honest here. As someone completely for LGBT rights, it's people like you that really bring about the resistant. People that want to try to make random things gay for absolutely no reason at all instead of just making a new character. Nothing in Zed's anything remotely suggests he might be gay. So why the crusade to make him gay? It makes no sense. Just make a gay champ. It's really that simple. Like I said, if Zed's artist had intended him to be a social justice warrior ninja, he would have. He didn't. Sexuality plays absolutely no part in it.

Stop, please stop. You are not completely for LGBT rights. You're similar to someone who says '' I dont hate gays but they're disgusting, they're mentally ill and should be treated ''. People like you make it worse. You support LGBT rights and can't even approve sexuality change (I'm assuming Zed is straight, even though there is nothing about it, so technically it is not a sexuality change but clarifying it). If you were not a LGBT supporter, I would be more happier because at least you would have a reason to hate on fiction character's sexuality change.

Riot can't do everything they want, example, cigarette remove from Graves because of culture conflict. Another example, they can't make skeleton champions because of chinese people's taboos.

TSwift Is SexyMay 26, 20161 votes

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May I ask if you're homosexual?

Whether you chose to answer or not is fine. But I will say what I want to say anyway. The gay friends that I have want to be treated equally. Not different. That's the entire point (or at least the foundation. extremist ruin things, but besides the point). Equality. So you're statement that "it's not overt because you can't witness people being gay" is really a horrible argument. Because you don't witness people being straight. Gay people don't want to wear special arm bands saying they're gay. They want to go about their lives as normal. So if it's not apparent that a champion is straight, then why must you make it apparent that a champion is straight? That's not what homosexuals or any LGBT want. They want to be normal. Not put on display. So your suggestions make me thing that you are not homosexual....as no gay friend I know would be advocating for this. They gay friend walking down the street looks the same as a straight friend (unless they're really flamboyant).

FasmodeyMay 26, 20164 votes

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It doesn't bother you.

Who did say I want superiority on LGBT?

Your argument on not having heterosexuality on champions... Hmm... Lucian - Senna , Ezreal - Lux , Tryndamere - Ashe, Taliyah's crush on Ekko, Ekko's crush on Jinx, Azir's harem, Garen - Katarina are enough I think.

This argument is exactly same as much as this.

'' Sexuality is not important but I have no problem with having straight relationships in my deep throat ''

You say sexuality is not important but you dont make a problem straight fiction characters. When it comes to gays, it becomes politics, it becomes superiority.

I can't understand.

TSwift Is SexyMay 26, 20163 votes

While playing the game, the only hetero thing that sticks out at all is Lucian...and that's only because his wife was captured.

And no, I don't have a problem with gay characters whatsoever. In fact, I've said multiple times that you should just make a new gay ninja. Are you really that dense that you can't understand that? I'm saying it's completely stupid to just randomly make a champ gay. For no reason whatsoever. This game doesn't "shove straight relationships down my throat" at all. Whatsoever. If it did, I most likely wouldn't play it...I'm not into Twlight shit.

You seem to be incapable of differentiating "homophobia" from the idea of making a new gay champ instead of turning some random champ with no sexuality whatsoever gay. And since you're incapable of that, this conversation is over. Like I said, extremist are the reason LGBT (and pretty much any other movement) is met with such resistance.

Malicious MetalMay 26, 201613 votes

Yeah, that'll stop these insecure kids from maining the guy. Two birds with one stone.

The Lonely RoninMay 26, 20165 votes

I do not main Zed for his sexual preferences. I main him to kill things. Plain and simple.

Blood MagicksMay 26, 20167 votes

I think Zed is the supreme cancer created so Riot can make dirty money off the worst type of people and I support everything that will make these people take a look at themselves and rethink their lives.

That said.

Zed is already a major gay icon.

The amound of Zed x Shen fanart is insane. It's good art, too.

http://imgur.com/9QvG1OP.jpg

I mean, judging by the stories of their youth, it's not unlikely.

Malicious MetalMay 26, 20163 votes

I bet you've got a huge shipping image collection. 'Tis good art, perfect for research purposes :^)

Blood MagicksMay 26, 20162 votes

I actually don't. I'm not weaboo enough to be attracted to either of them and I mostly find Zed annoying. I have some fanart but I mostly spam it to troll Zed mains.

Malicious MetalMay 26, 20162 votes

That's what I like to hear. Hue!

Also, skimping through your Vlad IMGR album made me draw him with Morde. So, thanks for that I guess^^'

Blood MagicksMay 26, 20161 votes

Draw him well senpai :3 I like how feversea does him :3

Malicious MetalMay 26, 20162 votes

He looks like a Punk in my drawing... Matches the Metalhead.

Blood MagicksMay 26, 20161 votes

Vandal Vlad needs more fanart.

Malicious MetalMay 26, 20162 votes

It's my favorite Vlad skin. Too bad it's legacy. I'm stuck with using Blood lord or Marquis D-D

Der StechschrittMay 26, 20166 votes

I'm so confused as to why this even matters. Being a homosexual myself has zero relation to LoL. This is a game about killing, not a romantic relationship dating game?

M15TAH JAYMay 27, 20163 votes

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I'm so confused as to why this even matters. Being a homosexual myself has zero relation to LoL. This is a game about killing, not a romantic relationship dating game?

Respect

Beyond LegendsMay 26, 20165 votes

Gay for the sake of being gay is simply bad story telling. People (mainly tumblr) focus too much on sexuality and romance now a days. I don't give a shit if Zed is gay, but honestly if tumblr had taught me anything is that the people who want this are usually confuse yaoi fam girls that can't write anything half decent.

FasmodeyMay 26, 20164 votes

Well, Zed doesn't seem like someone who would be interested in a relationship, like Syndra. Both are about power and ruling.

After Bilgewater, I would say Graves and TF are pretty good choices. They also break the stereotypes.

SharjoMay 26, 20164 votes

See, this topic confuses me. Why does he need to be gay? It'd be cool if he was gay, just like it'd be cool if he was straight, or bi, or pan or A, but what's the necessity? Just because we're lacking someone who is of that persuasion? Wouldn't it be better to have a character written as gay because there's something worthwhile that can be explored with said character through that, like an actual relationship with depth and meaning, rather than just making him gay for the sake of it?

League's a game where romance only ever is described for champions where it actually influenced their character and history. That romance had meaning to it. If Zed ends up having a romantic relationship with a man, then great, but really that should mean something for both him and his boyfriend, and not just be tacked on for the sake of ticking a box.

I might just not be understanding your message here Mr/Mrs/Miss/Mstr/However you identify BigBadBadger, but it feels like you're just saying Zed should be gay without giving a good reason behind it, and you'd just rather he actually be gay, where as I'm here thinking that such a way of thinking isn't great because having a label without context seems silly. If Zed is gay he should have a meaningful relationship to go along with it, just as he should if he turns out to be straight or whatever orientation.

Tesla EffectMay 26, 20162 votes

People really need to sort out their priorities in this community. Sexual preferences should not be the first thing we ask for character depth cause by itself doesnt give any type of foundational depth to a character, it will only lead to caricatures.. Aka, it has no place in LoL at the current moment. You know why in the current moment, cause more than a third of the champions are a total enigma of who they even are in this post-retcon lore and you wanna know the sexual preferences of them first...da hell....so please sort out your priorities.

OleandervineMay 26, 20162 votes

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People really need to sort out their priorities in this community. Sexual preferences should not be the first thing we ask for character depth cause by itself doesnt give any type of foundational depth to a character, it will only lead to caricatures.. Aka, it has no place in LoL at the current moment. You know why in the current moment, cause more than a third of the champions are a total enigma of who they even are in this post-retcon lore and you wanna know the sexual preferences of them first...da hell....so please sort out your priorities.

First of all, sexuality is not just sexual preference. It is also relationship preferences as well, so please don't boil it down to something as trivial as to what hole you want to stick it in. Second of all, Lucian is nothing but driven by his relationship. Without his wife being killed and absorbed by Thresh, he is nothing. His entire characterization is based about him being straight and having a wife. Finally, sexuality is not the first thing given to us in terms of character depth. The lore department does a really fine job in most cases in filling out a character by a lot more than their relationship preferences, so asking for those preferences is not out of line, nor is it typically the first thing requested by most fans. Except in regards to Taric, who they presented as having many gay aspects and they danced around the elephant in the room without actually offering us confirmation that he is League's first official gay character.

Tesla EffectMay 26, 20162 votes

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First of all, sexuality is not just sexual preference. It is also relationship preferences as well, so please don't boil it down to something as trivial as to what hole you want to stick it in. Second of all, Lucian is nothing but driven by his relationship. Without his wife being killed and absorbed by Thresh, he is nothing. His entire characterization is based about him being straight and having a wife. Finally, sexuality is not the first thing given to us in terms of character depth. The lore department does a really fine job in most cases in filling out a character by a lot more than their relationship preferences, so asking for those preferences is not out of line, nor is it typically the first thing requested by most fans. Except in regards to Taric, who they presented as having many gay aspects and they danced around the elephant in the room without actually offering us confirmation that he is League's first official gay character.

You are kinda exaggerating the statement. You should find a way to vent your frustrations better and also sort out your priorities in life.

Complaining here is not sorting it properly.

OleandervineMay 26, 20163 votes

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You are kinda exaggerating the statement. You should find a way to vent your frustrations better and also sort out your priorities in life.

Complaining here is not sorting it properly.

Perhaps you need to sort yours. To a straight player, a gay character has absolutely no relevance, so I don't quite understand why so many straight players are so opinionated about a topic that doesn't pertain to them in the slightest. It's like men having really, really strong opinions about women's rights. If the topic doesn't pertain to you, why are you so avidly attacking it? Having a gay character does nothing but enrich the lore and make it more believable by representing groups of people who exist in reality. This is why different races are also portrayed, yet I don't see people sitting here blasting Lucian for being black or Master Yi for being Asian. But oh, that's right, homophobia and bigotry are socially acceptable, but racial xenophobia is not.

Tesla EffectMay 27, 20161 votes

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Perhaps you need to sort yours. To a straight player, a gay character has absolutely no relevance, so I don't quite understand why so many straight players are so opinionated about a topic that doesn't pertain to them in the slightest. It's like men having really, really strong opinions about women's rights. If the topic doesn't pertain to you, why are you so avidly attacking it? Having a gay character does nothing but enrich the lore and make it more believable by representing groups of people who exist in reality. This is why different races are also portrayed, yet I don't see people sitting here blasting Lucian for being black or Master Yi for being Asian. But oh, that's right, homophobia and bigotry are socially acceptable, but racial xenophobia is not.

Dude you dont know me at all so you cant lable me that easy, same with characters in a video game. So pls sort out your priorities in life cause right now you act as a brat and exaggerating every conversation.

OleandervineMay 27, 20162 votes

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Dude you dont know me at all so you cant lable me that easy, same with characters in a video game. So pls sort out your priorities in life cause right now you act as a brat and exaggerating every conversation.

What I do know about you is that you're attacking me personally, "dud plz sort priority," instead of meaningfully refuting what I've been saying. Your comments do nothing to further your point, they are attempts to shut other opinions down because you don't have enough knowledge and or information to contest it. What I also know is that you're doing this about a topic you clearly have no context for aside from the fact that you think showing a character's relationship preferences ruins lore and characters by being an "exaggeration" and adds nothing to the game. I think other people have made it abundantly clear that nearly all the lore adds nothing to actual gameplay, and some of it IS exaggerated to extremes. and you've displayed that you do not have LGBT sympathies, no matter how much you may believe otherwise, because you refuse to see how acknowledgement and representation in a videogame is good for that community.