My biggest lore-based fear.

Ryugi Kazamaru·10/27/2015, 9:38:24 PM·14 votes·3,762 views

Firstly, props to Mr. McNeil for his grand writing talent, and to the teams and persons responsible for the new long-form bios of our Shadow Isles friends. I think you guys have done incredible work, and have served to "flesh out" these spooky specters in new and interesting ways. However, as others have noted, there seems to be a trend I'm seeing that is worrying me somewhat.

Now, I understand that the most recent lore events, namely Bilgewater and now the Shadow Isles, are places that exude a grim sort of atmosphere. And while I loved Fiora's new long-form Bio, it also had a similar sense of uneasiness and darkness running through it. I'm all for Demacia having some darker stains on it's white tablecloth, don't get me wrong, but there's been a tone shift recently toward darker stories. I suppose the easiest way to say it is that things seem more "grimdark" than they were before.

Mr. McNeil is well known for his writing in the Warhammer IP. I have friends who swear by his work and hail him as a king among lore writers for that world. I wouldn't know, as I've never really read anything from it, and it isn't my style, particularly. That universe is a very grimdark universe, incredibly brutal in its telling. And with the last few developments in narrative, I'm seeing a trend toward these sorts of stories and little else.

That scares me.

I love the Runeterra universe. I love the characters, the world, and just about everything about it. I liked the removal of the Institute to open it up for more dramatic stories. And I liked how Shurima and Freljord were opened up for more conflict and storytelling there as well. But the thing that has seemed to escape me recently is the lighthearted side of things. And yes, I read the joke about the sea monster "shitting out" Olaf, but that's not what I mean.

We used to have stories, admittedly small ones, of things that were jovial and funny, not so grimdark serious. Like Veigar trying to steal the Mothership, only to be thwarted by a flock of birds popping his balloons. Anyone remember the time Sivir got drunk and crashed a car in Demacia? That wouldn't fit into the new world, admittedly, but the nature of these stories had a different sort of tone. The universe didn't take itself so dangerously seriously, and while I DO HONESTLY LIKE the more "realistic" and "serious" nature of the characters and stories being told, (like Miss Fortune FINALLY being seen as more of a badass, and not some redheaded bimbo or floozy), I just hope that as time goes on, the writers remember that part of what made Runeterra fun and interesting was that it had a lighter side too.

A single poop joke isn't the same thing, and neither are skins since they aren't canon for the most part.

The world itself has room for more stories that aren't as gory, aren't as brutal, and aren't as serious. Even our world, with how "real" and terrible it can sometimes be, with wars, disasters, political tensions, and everything else, can still have events and stories that remind people to laugh, and that life isn't always a grim existence. There's a quiet wonderment and enjoyment that can come from things like that, that inject more realism and humanity into a world than just splayed entrails and detailed descriptions of gore.

There is a time and place for such things in fiction, most definitely, and I'm not trying to say that such details or stories are somehow invalid. War and strife is part of that. But a writer should be able to balance the grimdark with something else. Perhaps a sense of hope and pride, or a feeling of laughter at the absurdity of the reality of your situation, something to remind people that life isn't always a serious black abyss of suffering and dystopian ideals and then you die.

I'm terrible at ending these sorts of things, so I'll simply say that, as Riot goes forward with their beloved universe, and one that I love just as much as they do, that they keep these things in mind. I hope the thing I love doesn't turn into just "in the grim darkness of Runeterra", and that it still has room for fossilized cupcakes, robotic groin-shots, and the forbidden love story of a cactus and a sentient armadillo.

22 Comments

RiotDinopawz10/28/2015, 12:19:59 AM19 votes

Totally agree on the need for a varied texture in storytelling, folks. Runeterra is a big place, and, absolutely, there's room for fun, knockabout stuff (case in point, some stuff I'm planning out just now...) as well as grim, bloody mayhem.

In this case, we figured that a story about the spirits of the dead coming to Bilgewater in the midst of a bloody gang war wasn't ever going to get a 'U' rating. More a 15 (or is that a PG-13 in the US...?) edging towards the higher ratings in moderation. But like all worlds in which fantastical stories of magic, monsters and warriors etc. are set, to keep things interesting, we need a good variety of story types and tones, and - going forward - I think it will be only right and proper we develop a broad palette of storytelling modes, each of which will take its tone from the subject, character, setting and the like.

Remember to tune in tomorrow, Thursday and Friday for the concluding parts of Shadow and Fortune.

Pyrodinium10/27/2015, 9:48:34 PM10 votes

Personally, those silly stories always seemed pointless to me.

But I would argue that we have had some pieces of the lore that are not as grim.

Without going further, Burning Tides' story between Graves and Tobias was about renewed friendship and forgiveness.

The Bard preview page conveyed a sense of wonder at the world.

Shurima was way more epic than grim (the focus of the story was the return of the Ascended rather than the tragic fate of the ancient empire).

I think we are just treading over a particularly grim patch right now.

Daedalus87110/27/2015, 11:55:42 PM5 votes

You have to have some conflict.

I could read a page about how Braum fed all the poros homemade cookies and that's how he became friends with them, but that's it.

GenoXx10/27/2015, 9:47:03 PM4 votes

Omg, can eveyone pls stop??? It's the Harrowing. It is suppose to be grimdark. Geez, what are YOU expecting? Sppoky skeletons dancing and laughing to get casually knocked down to juts bones by a random bystander?

God u ppl need lighten up

Peridition10/27/2015, 11:11:58 PM1 votes

Didn't they already say McNeil had no part in writing the Burning Tides or Kindred's lore?

It seems like Bligewater and the Shadow Isles were already dark places in lore. Which really you should evaluate the content before assessing that its too "grimdark". We're talking about** pirates** and the undead. They are dark subjects. Pirates are raiders, murders, thieves, and criminal thugs. They were excessively violent and lawless. What you consider dark, I simply consider realistic.

Kuroi8610/28/2015, 6:22:43 AM1 votes

With champs likeBraum Gragas Heimerdinger Jinx Lulu Rumble Vi Ziggs around I feel there's tons of room for more light hearted and hilarious stories to come.