Why have champions been started to be waggish?

Fasmodey··2 votes·446 views

I mean, I'm not talking about their taunts or jokes. These specific quotes are supposed to be like this. But why do generic, movement and attack quotes are jesting and less serious, even for characters like Rhaast? Rhaast is a bloodthristy war machine that brings nothing but pain and death. And he feels so waggish, I don't get terrified by his quotes.

Our last serious character is Jhin.

Let's look at last champions.

AurelionSol Taliyah Kled Ivern Camille Xayah Rakan Kayn (half case. I'm talking about Rhaast more here, Kayn is serious but edy tho)

And now Ornn.

I mean, It is started to be annoying. I don't know.

I just don't want Evelynn to be another waggish, jesting character. I don't want another ''Ugh, you are annoying me, just die please" like thinking character even when they're evil as shit.

Mordekaiser is another champion that should be avoided from this. I would never ever want Mordekaiser as Rhaast. EVER.

Urgot is well made tho. He is a character that feels terrifying. Is it a shame or a success for designing a human character being far more terrifying than a darkin? Not sure.

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6FlagsFunnelCake1 votes

Camille and Aurelion Sol don't seem as 'jesting' compared to the talking tree and the yordle on the lizard

Fasmodey2 votes

Aurelion Sol is the sassiest character of LoL, what the hell?

"Congratulations, you have earned my contempt." "Useless and intolerable. Charming." "I never bite. Too uncouth." "I'm going to throw a star at you now. Good luck." "Be useful. Be stardust. I'll help."

And Camille has a lot funny quotes, I don't know if it is just me. She is a mix of being sassy and being serious. I like her personality actually. It fits her. And as she is human and not evil, I don't think she needs to be serious that much. But still, has a lot funny quotes.

Nixtarma1 votes

Even Jhin has funny quotes. I do not think it is fair to condemn a character on that ground alone.

I do agree with you though, though to me the only real offenders recently were Galio, the birbs, and Kayn. Ornn could go either way, as we only know like five of his lines, and some VO's are half an hour long. I do think it is good for the game to have variety of personalities, though.

However, from what I have seen Reds talk about in their character creation process, I am fairly optimistic that this will not continue for ever, or even much longer.

Fasmodey1 votes

Jhin has max few quotes waggish, and they're nowhere near close to what Aurelion Sol has. I don't include jokes btw.

I agree, there should variety of personalities, definitely! I really love different personalities.

Nixtarma1 votes

Do you have any you would look forward to seeing?

Fasmodey1 votes

Maybe love against character? I don't know, I havent thought about new personalities.

Limrick1 votes

It's hard to go full on dark and cruel without making them just ridiculously edgy. Jhin pulls it off really well, but a lot of dark champs in the past just end up as an edgy mess. And it isn't like the new characters are all jokesters, the only truly lighthearted ones are Rakan and Ivern, and even they get serious sometimes.

Fasmodey1 votes

Karthus Urgot LissandraVelkoz Syndra Kalista Khazix Lucian Nocturne

I can continue.

There are many ways to make serious characters without making them edgy. It is not an execuse IMO.

I have no problem with being lighthearted. Taric is an good example. He is lighthearted but not waggish. He is actually far more serious than a deathbringer darkin. It is sad.

Limrick1 votes

Nocturne, Lucian and Syndra are super edgy lol. I cringe at every one of Nocturne's lines.

Fasmodey1 votes

I find quotes being edgy depends on theme of character. Kayn is a teenager character with "The child is gone, killer remains" like stupid edgy quotes. That's why he is edgy.

But Nocturne is nightmare incarnate. He is full of evil. He saying "drip drop, the sound of blood." less edgy than what Kayn says IMO. Because he is a demon and more evil than Kayn even hope to be.

Syndra and Lucian are right tho, I have thought their quotes weren't that edgy until I remembered. I don't know why did I included them. But let me fix that.

Hecarim Volibear

Limrick2 votes

That's better, Shadow Isles champs are mostly well done.

LordHippoman1 votes

I had to look up "waggish". Y'all European English speakers are generating words at such a pace we aren't getting them over here fast enough!

As for the actual reason, I'd imagine it's because of how popular "quippy" characters are in pop culture right now. The big movie buzz right now is superhero movies, especially Marvel's Avengers stuff, and the dialogue in those films is like, 40% one liner. League is sorta in that same demographic of young adults, and so some trends are going to carry over. A champion who talks more is naturally going to be a little bit more memorable than someone who's dead silent, but I think there is a good middle ground to be found.

Fasmodey1 votes

I'm not against characters like this. But there are better themes to do that. A darkin shouldn't be more funny than, let's say, Quinn. He is a freaking darkin, ffs. And even if you do that, just don't make it in that frequency. Too many waggish characters in a row.

Only VGUs are good at this case. So I have better hope on Evelynn than next champion.

Btw, I'm not native english speaker, so it shouldn't be surprising to see words have no more common use from me. :p Because I don't know which words are popular or not.

KawaiiShroom1 votes

camille is very serious

Nylisa1 votes

your post made me think about another topic on the forums asking why so many champions are overflowing with confident. all of them has this "you are all beneath me" or "no one can kill me" kind of attitude or take the fights and battles as joke or some annoyence that its no big deal for them like "im just here to kill you and go home so i can take a nap"

i kinda agree with you and them it takes away the diversity and gets really boring. i mean i cant think of a champion that is full of self doubt and fear with every voice-line. or someone who just doesn't want to fight, even Taliyah treats the fights like its some sort of game.

it reminds me of all the cliche bad guys in stories "muhahahaha you can never defeat me" 10 mintues later = "dies"

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