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League Of Stories: Project Idea

Talos of Altmora··1 votes·900 views

Hey Everyone, I wanted to announce this project before I get started on it. In essence, League of Stories is going to basically be me going through each faction and it's champions and just talking about them, what the community thinks of them (Not gameplay wise, just lore wise) and my own opinions on them. Before I begin though, I want to explain my purpose for doing this and my position on a few things.

League of Legends always stood out from the other mobas I could be playing, League actually cared about the lore, which basically canonized the games, the game mechanics, and the players themselves. Of course, I entered after they announced that the League was to be taken out of canon. I shrugged, mostly because I didn't care to much because I could see there reason's why.

I'm doing to this to start discussions on our favorite characters. I am going to start with Bindle City and then go in alphabetical order, with one exception. Now, If the champion has had it's lore reworked, like Poppy, I will discus both versions and tell you my opinion on them. I'd also like to take about the major lore events around the area, like Burning Tides for Bildgewater.

It's important to remember that you are free to disagree with my opinions on the champions, which I am sure is going to happen. The important thing is that we do get to talk about it, and it will generate an exchange of opinions with our fellow players. I always found this kind of fun, and I'm sure you'll agree. I would like it to be civil but the internet is hard to control, as I am sure you know.

Now, let's talk about lore in general. Personally, I think that league at this point would work better as a setting. I say this because of something I noticed during Burning Tides, the fact that champions are immortal. We all knew Gangplank would return in some capacity. I thought he'd be a legacy character kind of thing, but then I thought about applying that to someone like Garen. I don't think that would be received very well, no matter how far you advance the story line.

Also I'd like to Bring to your attention the Lucian-Thresh paradox. Lucien wants to kill thresh, permanently. However, as they are both League Champions, both need to be "alive" in some capacity in order to be playable. So Lucian cannot kill thresh, and thresh cannot just add him into his collection because that lantern Is impossible to escape from (I'll discuss Lucian's wife's plans when we get to thresh.) and of course, both of them really have no choice than to fight, because that's Lucian's lore in a nutshell; he wants to kill thresh. They cannot kill each other unless the dev's are willing to perm delete one of them.

This, and other things, are stuff i'd like to talk about. So please post your thoughts about it down below and please tell me your thoughts. Thanks for reading.

12 Comments

GreenLore4 votes

I wouldn't say that champions need to be immortal.

Yes GP wasn't killed,but honestly it would have been a horrible idea to kill GP,since his character just received an overhaul and we barely got to knew the new Gangplank. I mean you don't introduce a major character and then kill them off immediatly,thats simply a waste of a character.

Either Lucian or Thresh will likely die eventually,but that will be only after we got a good amount of stories with them.

Talos of Altmora1 votes

But how will Lucian or Thresh still be playable? when Gp "Died" They took him out for a bit. I see your point about gp, but the difference there is that's the first time a champ, to my knowledge, was disabled due to lore, it kind of sets a precedent.

GreenLore2 votes

In the end there is nothing preventing riot from simply leaving the champ in the game. If someone dies for real they might remove the champ for a few weeks before letting them return anyway,because in the end the lore and the game aren't directly linked.

Talos of Altmora1 votes

True, but at the same time they aren't completely separated. People would be kind of weirded out by the fact that someone who is supposed to be dead is still running around in-game.

GreenLore1 votes

Honestly,that is a very small price to pay for the possibility of getting a LOT more freedom when writing stories.

Talos of Altmora1 votes

but is it worth it? Personally, I don't think so, but to each his own. I mean, everyone in the league currently is pretty well established, the Characters ARE the lore. without them or the game there really so no point to it unless their writing a separate universe. I know you have a different opinion on it, but when I hear the freedom argument I think back to targon and think about the new Targon could have been it's own Ip, but because they wanted "freedom" in an established universe they ignored it and "recreated" it.

What I liked about burning tides is that I felt they made an effort to work WITH the lore and EXPAND on it, which is something I think they should be doing. They are allowed to do what they want, but they have to remember that because they are using characters that have tons of fans and player, they can't just kill them off. Imagine how pissed the community would be if Garen just dropped dead in the lore. I don't think anyone will be happy about it.

GreenLore1 votes

I'm not really sure how the recreation of Targon has anyhting to do with this.

Letting a character die in a story isn't really connected with "recreating" the story(unless it comes together with a retcon,which is a seriously bad idea and unlikely to happen),it is an expansion,just like burning tides.

And a well written death scene can be very emotional and tragic,can move the plot forward in interesting ways or make another character stand out in certain ways,can build a lot of tension,etc. There is a reason why characters die in so many series/games/movies.

If a character dies,it would be after we get a lot of stories with them,I mean what if Garens arc is pretty much completed? What if he clashed already with Darius,foiled Swains plans,fought against Urgot,settled his matters with Katarina and so on. What then?Should they simply repeat this stuff over and over?That would get boring really fast.

And him dying could simply be done in so many ways(maybe he sacrifices himself protecting a friend?Or Katarina could choose her country over her feelings and kill him,which would affect her emotionally,etc.) and could lead to a lot of character development/show certain sides of other characters that we'd otherwise never get(would darius show respect towards Garen or would he laugh about his fall?How would Urgot react to the death of his nemesis?Would Lux want to avenge her brother?)

zrWQMdGHtY2 votes

This will grow into a horrible argument between lore lovers...

u could always check my tale if u want some lore wananbe stuff that will never be real, but hey it's fun to write em... If I don't die from overeating you might even see a reworked version of my first chapter today xD

Talos of Altmora1 votes

Oh, I like to think people are better than that... then again i'm an optimist. I'll check out your stuff, sounds cool.

zrWQMdGHtY2 votes

Well, 99% of my lore based conversations were ending as arguments, so I tested what I said :D

Beyond Legends2 votes

Nah I don't think there is a need to “exchange” anything Talos. We're beyond having this disccussion a long time ago. You either like the lore or you don't at this point.

Quite frankly I don't care about your opinion on any of the champions, you're not that important. Stop grandizing over yourself. Didn't you said you were going to LEAVE and work on your novel or whatever.

Quite frankly their isn't a need to exhange any opinion on the subject. Your not going to change peoples mind about the issue, you either learn to cope with the changes or don't. The board has been alot more quiet and nice since Impteual and you left. Don't think I forget your little emotional bitching about the targon lore. No body care about how you feel about certain lore character because I can give you a million reason why their old counter part was bad.

You can say you want “disscussion” but in reality you probably just want find yourself a little circle jerk in the corner. I think I told you to screw off at the start of the year and I'm going to tell you to screw off again.

Why don't you stick to your words Talos and leave. Quite frankly this topic is dead and buries don't go around corpse diving.

Ravenhale1 votes

In my opinion, several champions have already died or exist in different timelines. League is a game of "legends". It's not the League of "Living" Legends. It's troublesome when Riot tries too hard to shove 100+ main characters inside a narrow time-frame.

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