CHAMPION ROADMAP: JULY 2017
Here it is. Swain is our next VGU!
Here it is. Swain is our next VGU!
Looks like Swain is gonna be joining the Noxian red and black Colour scheme that's, well, Noxian. Interesting, Pretty hyped to see what the VGU team are gonna be doing with Birbman.
Other than Urgot and Warwick, which VGUs are done by that team? I'm kinda losing track of which team did which VGUs lol
These guys also did Ryze at least. Their narrative writer Interlocutioner only started with Warwick, so Swain will be his third champion.
Conversely Evelynn's team did Galio, Yorick and Poppy if memory serves.
After Urgot and Warwick, I'm pretty sure they'll do a great job at Swain. Can't wait to hear more
Which team did Taric? I think it was the one who's doing eve right now, but I'm not 100% sure.
I actually don't know. That period of champ up's history eludes me.
The team that did Taric also did Ryze, Warwick and Urgot and soon to be Swain. All the teams changes people overtime though so it's really never the exact same people from project to project.
So, from one to "CAW", how excited is muscle-man Larry to be working on Swain? :D
CCAAAAAAWWWWWWW
He hasn't stopped talking about Swain since we started working on it.
can we expect Swain at the end of this year or at the beginning of next year? ( sure that he will come in season 8)
The team that did Taric also did Ryze,
Which one?
Parents Evelynn have killed are Vayne's, aren't they? Evelynn with horns, would be interesting.
Yeah it's Vayne for sure. Evelynn's been around.
If Evelynn killed vayne's parents, then how old does that make Evelyn?
Quite old. Far more so than Vayne. She's certainly not human.
Eve is demon (probably of lust) inc.
- What makes you so certain she's a demon?
The possible connection to Vayne's lore obviously. Though Vayne could just call her a demon by mistake.
- What makes you think such a thing as a demon of lust can occur in Runeterra?
exists on Runeterra in some form.
exists on Runeterra in some form.
Yeah but lust could be considered just a facet of Tahm's existence.
For all we know, Eve wouldn't be of lust. She could be pain.
You're on the right track, but think broader than that.
Hedonism?
Edit: Oh wait that should be pleasure. Damn It makes sense, if it is not I would be disappointed in my IQ.
I mean, what else can she be? A spirit, which can still be a demon? A zombie/ghost like the others in the Isle? Something unique?
We don't know. Can demons of lust occur? We have a nightmare demon, and a crossroads demon.
Ok the what else can be point is fair, though I wouldn't peg Nocturne as a demon just yet. He's gotta be updated yet before anything's certain there.
Lust is a tool Evelynn would definetly use, but it's not what she embodies. What demons individually embody is far more broad than a concept like lust or hunger. There's an overlying element there. Sorry for being vague, but I don't wanna just spell this stuff out; I'd rather you took a swing at figuring it. I'd encourage you to look at Evelynn and Tahm individually, see what they're about down to their core, and figure from that what they embody.
Well if I had to take a gander, both represent taking something too far and letting it consume you.
I just read the entire discussion about what Evelynn represents, and then what Tahm represents, and I honestly have no idea what the final conclusion is because I can't see what the flow of the conversation is after a certain point. I know that you did say that Fasmodey and Ralanr got it, but I don't know where. Will you please just outright quote to me which part of what they said was correct?
It happened because Sharjo did not quote us but himself. We don't know what is the correct answer either lmao.
My answer for Evelynn was Contact or Sense, and Tahm Kench was Misery. Ralanr said Touch/Physical Feeling, Taste/Despair.
Sigh, looks like Mordekaiser will never get that VGU to make up for the mess that was 5.16 Juggermorde...
At least Eve looks good. Dem legs to rival Elise's~
Oh, I wouldn't be disappointed. I guess after Swain, Mordekaiser would be the next. They couldn't choose Mordekaiser after Evelynn because they're both from the Shadow Isles.
Let's remember, Galio is in the middle of 2 zaunite champions. Warwick < Galio < Urgot. So there is still a chance.
Also not sure if Evelynn has a tail or not?
I could imagine what you see on the picture is one of those "shadow tentacles" the leak was speaking of. Like, she has those on her back facing down and looking like tails, but they are made out of shadows.
I could almost bet that Morde will be announced in the Champ roadmap after Eve's reveal. I would be surprised if it were anyone else tbh
Yorick players, Urgot players, Swain players, all also thought they'd never get their VGU.
Morde will, most likely, get his very soon. Considering recent VGU's though, it makes sense he wasn't picked. AND Riot totally should not rework a champion unless they have a solid, strong direction for them. You do not want Mordekaiser's VGU rushed. I know its long over due but you do not want them reworking him cause he needs one without a good plan.
Yo Malicious,
love your passion towards the Champion and I just want to tell you, that now is probably is the wrong time to be depressed.
If Riot doesn't go for Nunu -> Morde or Morde -> Nunu after Swain it would almost be trolling.
It would surprise me a shit ton, if you don't get the Morde we all deserve around next March like Galio (released 3/21/2017) or July like Urgot (going out 7/26 next week). Swain will probably fill out the space Warwick did (released 1/25/2017), so around earlier-ish first quarter of the next year, which also would fit, because it is as stated, Warwick's team.
I predict Evelynn to be around this September, because of Yorick (released 9/8/2016, which is also worked on by Yorick's team as stated in this thread). It also fits like Yorick, because it will be around the time of Halloween, with her most definitly retaining the Shadow Isles connection like Yorick or at least the very dark vibe overall.
What will come after them will be much more open, if they don't decide to pick Pantheon – which also would be weird, because of the insanely high demand on his relaunch and his very toxic not really counterable as outdated kit!
On an important sidenote I want to write, that we could see some highly welcomed VGU development speedup, that shuffles the releases up quite differently and nearer to each other after Swain, because of the new team philosophy/arrangement of the 5 open Relaunch/New slots (instead of 2 Relaunch - 3 New), or at least some surprising alterations in the overall schedule.
Much love to my fellow VGU/relaunch enthusiast!
Thanks for the kind words!
And honestly, I actually think the Galio/Yorick/Eve VGU pod would work better for what Mordekaiser needs. They seem to have the style of high impact, yet highly satisfying abilities down. Plus their thematic approach to things is really on point imo.
You're welcome, buddy!
My personal wish is, that he keeps his morning star (no one else has this weapon) as long as it can be done in any logical way, being THE definition of a raid boss Champion and that he has some form of not overbearing, but also unique CC. The whole AD/AP part is a mystery for me in terms of theme regarding gameplay & visuals, regarding him clearly having the AD vibe in visuals and from what I gathered in terms of theme/lore also ability power would make sense and Riot is stepping away from hybrid designs…
The Galio/Yorick pod fits him well, especially because of Yorick, which has the problem of being really unreliable though. The thing about Galio is, that they changed him in a really significant way but still kept a lot of what made him Galio (I don't understand the new Galio haters the slightest, I just read stubborn & irrational nonsense posted by those people – he still has gargoyle features, he still has his old ultimate even in his kit, he still has a sad and thoughtful side, he still has his Q and E combined in a way like ???).
On the other hand the Warwick/Urgot pot did an insanely well job for these two bulky, but still damage dealing guys while basically still remaining the exactly same characters they were before, just modernized and much more logical.
So I can see where you are coming from, but I maybe have a bit different angle. I think Morde is more of an edge case between Poppy & Galio… probably even Sion and I don't want to sound harsh here. An insane amount of his kit should change heavily, while still keeping the feel alive what made him gameplay-wise. So when I think about it, in a way he is an entirely new case of all those 3 Champions combined, just that the very core of his kit not necessarily on a mechanical side (see old Poppy Ultimate & old Urgot Passive), but from a feeling standpoint seems to be his Passive.
So basically, he will most likely need to be made up from complete scratch, not even keeping something entirely like Sion's W health stacking or Poppy's E wall stun, but rather ''spiritual core'' of his ''this guy seems untouchable, I am pissing my pants… do I just run?''.
Some very salty and rude Mordekaiser enthusiast in Twitch chat still pointed out something pretty cool, that I can agree with, if it is possible to execute ''Give the enemy a reason to attack him, even though he feels unkillable''.
The amazing part about Morde is, that I feel deep down, that he has some insanely fun and totally unique possibliities in terms of interactions, which could be even at least almost entirely new to the game. Having a bulky REVENANT right before you, that seems to be unscratchable.
I could see him as almost solo unbeatable lane bully, which can be brought down by teamwork either in laning phase with ganks/your jungler or in later stages of the game by good positioning and grouping, but also has very unique feature of him coming back, but in a very different way from Anivia or Sion, that maybe even almost has an event/quest atmosphere towards it?
About that part I am very wishy washy, though about the Twitch guy and his passive… what if he has something similar to Fiora's weak spots but on himself and these get penetrated even more, if two or more teammates penetrate these parts together in a very close timeframe? So his shell is almost indestructable, if you don't hit him correctly, but if you hit him correctly, he can be brought down fairly easy (maybe something like or similar to a resistance debuff?), because his actual ''body'' is enormously vulnerable (I mean isn't this even super fitting thematically? You are the Mordekaiser lore expert here, I am not that sure about some details anymore). Like this his tanky appearence would get clear and unique counterplay and from my current viewpoint it would make a shitton of sense.
His current items do not make any sense thematically, this is what I see as a huge stepping stone and it is also immensly difficult to balance on the other handand could very likely create very unwanted item interactions, but I wish that they find a logical way when it comes to him having supernatural/control features.
He just should be hardcore in any way, when it comes to these features without being completely overpowered.
Reasonable, but terrifying.
Another little thing I wanted to point out is, that I really hope, that Nunu will be picked up by Squad5 – Ivern's designer. With at least some meeting help of CertainlyT (Warwick) & I think it was Repertoir (Urgot).
I will probably even make a giant thread about it, trying to make it clearly visible for Reav3 and the guys mentioned. It would make such sense, that these guys team up in at least a small way for Nunu, with Squad5 as head of the project.
Squad5 created the first really functioning Support Jungler ever in this game, while Nunu could be similar but even more his own way in a logical and thematical sense, while remaining pretty much everything what people love about him currently and should be retained at any cost (Warwick & Urgot).
I have a huge eye on his current W, there could definitly be a much better way to support your team even in its entirety, when it comes to this ability slot and not just giving attack speed for certain Champions that take use from it. Maybe there could also be something done about it, which makes his snowball much more exciting and some more small or even big tweaks to his passive. Even his consume could be changed in a way, that it retains basically the same but has even more interaction to it, or that has kit interaction with a new W or even snowball. Special effects to his snowball or new W after he consumed something? Willump can fart AoE or something on enemies after he consumed a unit and does damage over time or CC's them with it (would also add great comical & light hearted character as total opposite to all the recent and forthcoming dark relaunches – I mean imagine, if Willump literally farts an enemy to death or has a fear attached to it).
My wish is big, that Nunu turns out to be a Yordle, let alone, because of the light hearted/comical aspect, size, overall flow with Willump it would have in several points like voiceover-lore-animations, character and especially name and the needed possiblity of being the true Yordle representantor of the Freljord region (Gnar has the prehistoric jungle-ish vibe very heavily going, even though he was located in Freljord) and he also would fit great in terms of lore and VO interactions with Kled, like Kayle vs. Morgana (in not so directly connected way and being the funny direction of duality) and the Noxus vs. Freljord conflict, while also giving room to elobrate on this matter in total!
I am not trolling it is literally exactly 4:20 here, while I check the clock after a long time and am about to write this last part as finishing lines and just wanted to mention, that I am tired and it took me a long time to write this and I wish, that it is not too much of a cluster**** to read and maybe even enjoyable and inspirational, also it would be hype, if we could heavily agree on a lot parts of this giant as monologue in case you even read it, haha!
Very glad they chose Swain, that probably means a big noxus lore update to go with his VGU, excited! Hoping for Mordekaiser as the VGU after Swain.
: ALL ABOARD THE HYPE TRAIN!!!!!
I KNEW IT! The demon that killed Vayne's parents was Evelynn.
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On a side note, I like that they are finally giving Swain the right, Noxus color scheme it seems.
I think Xin needs more work than that, but I'm glad he's getting something.
And Riot, while I love having a new Vanguard, why the Freljord again? They already have three tanks (Sejuani, Braum, Nunu) and Sejuani is already a vanguard.
It's been a while since we had a Freljord champion. The most recent champion from there was Braum, I think, and that was back in 2014.
I think what he is trying to mean is, our last freljordian champion was already a tank. Why wouldn't they choose another role for our next freljordian? I agree on him with that if it is what he meant to.
I'm also a bit confused about Xin. I think he was even among the top candidates for a VGU,so him getting a minirework seems rather odd.
Then again,the list does change from time to time and I'm sure that not all Tier1-candidates are equal. Not to mention that Xins update is going to be not that big.