@Jaredan - Lunari Genocide and The Moonstone: A Question

Ryugi Kazamaru·7/29/2015, 6:38:23 AM·6 votes·887 views

Everyone here knows the Lunari were wiped out by the Solari some time ago. The exact time isn't mentioned anywhere in any knowledge base that we have, and Leona's entrance into the world, and Diana's were far enough back that they still reflect much of the old lore, along with Nami to some degree. But with Nami's lore comes a very interesting question when you consider the situation.

Nami's lore establishes that the Moonstone needs to be replaced every 100 years, and requires the trade of an Abyssal Pearl, which she snagged like a total fishy badass. However, as most of us know, when she arrived in the cove to make the trade, there was no one to greet her, which had never happened before according to legend.

This presents a weird continuity problem to some degree, possibly.

If the Lunari are indeed the people responsible for the Moonstones, the event that killed them off, the Genocide, would have had to have happened within the last 100 years. That means that, historically speaking, it would have had to have happened very, very recently. For example, the Titanic sank in 1912. That's over 100 years ago, and yet we have pretty solid records of that event. Now, it's possible that the world of Runeterra doesn't have news that travels that fast, but since it's a world brimming with magic, and has the capability for a newspaper to bring news to various corners of the world (even if it isn't the JoJ, the universe has evidence to support a publication like it could still feasibly exist), and people who travel and know tales of such things (lorekeepers, bards, storytellers aplenty), it seems completely impossible that the Solari could cover up the genocide of an entire religious sect that should have feasibly existed for ages before then.

Now, we only know the story from Diana's point of view, and it seems reasonable that the Solari, at least within their own group, could feasibly forbid the discussion of the topic of heresy and cover up the genocide pretty heavily. That seems to be the case with Diana. But, that would also suggest that the rest of Runeterra, who would probably know there was, at one time, two sects worshiping heavenly bodies on Targon, and not just one, would know that some really messed up stuff happened there.

We know that Demacia and Noxus have both had Rakkor soldiers fight in their battles as mercenaries of sorts, assuming that hasn't been changed with the lore changes. So, it's also likely that both Demacia and Noxus know about the Solari killing off the Lunari. That said, it seems highly unlikely that Demacia would be totally comfortable working with people who actively committed genocide against another group of people without "significant justification". I mean, didn't they also protest Noxus going into the Freljord and trying to "Pacify" the Barbarians up there, as well as the Ionian Conflict, which we still know is a thing in New Lore? Assuming that's still a thing that happened, that poses a fairly awkward problem.

So, this leads to some awkward lore situations.

Either people forget amazingly tragic events and the slaughter of an entire group of people by a sect that's supposedly pacifistic in less than 100 years, the Solari are eerily good at covering up their own crimes of genocide to the point that the rest of the world didn't realize an entire religious group suddenly disappearing, or the Lunari are not at all responsible for the creation of Nami's Moonstone.

Either that, or there are some plotholes(?) in the story so far that could use a bit of patching.

Any comment on this, Jaredan? I'd love to hear what you have to say, even if you can't say too much.

5 Comments

GreenLore7/29/2015, 9:36:08 AM6 votes

It could be that the Lunari were rather withdrawn and lived rather isolated,thus making their existence largely unknown to the rest of the world.

Alternatively what if the lunari were not the ones who handed out the moon stones?Sure they seem like the obvious choice for that,but in the end we have no confirmation.

Slushi Simcambi7/29/2015, 3:16:37 PM1 votes

I've had this question in my head for a while.

Jaerdan plz. Nami is my favorite champion any expansion of her lore would make me <3 <3 <3

DWT123457/29/2015, 6:55:22 PM1 votes

I think that in general both the Lunari and the Solari were very secretive about what happened in mount Targon. there probably were just "rumors" of two religious groups living high in the mountains, something that would come from a nursery rhyme. Many of the champions, while obviously real, are legends, who are rarely seen by common people. While I'm sure some of the wiser champions like Zilean or Bard are fully aware of the Lunari and Solari, the rest of Valoran sees them as just some figure that they know exist, but know nothing of.

I'm no Jaredan, but due to the high popularity of this story, I would say that we will get something on the Lunari/Solari story pretty soon.

The Soulforged7/29/2015, 7:18:31 PM1 votes

Yeah, it really is a cool perspective, ima link my thread I made a very long time ago also concerning this kinda. It's an awesome story with so much potential conflict. Your point stands to give us questioning as it did me, how the solari covered the genocide so fast, or how it happened further away yet they still gave the moonstone?

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/XoucE5jh-the-relationship-of-lunari-vs-solari-and-their-embodiments

turkeyBACON7/29/2015, 9:30:56 PM1 votes

You're forgetting that there is another faction/being that could provide the moonstone and pearl trade.

Bard ...this guy.

While I don't think the story is more interesting (and may in fact be worse) but Bard seems to perform this type of function. He swoops in periodically to handle powerful artifacts and part of his caretaker duties may be to facilitate this type is switch.