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Can we finally drop the "objectification" argument?

Remlap1223·11/11/2015, 6:35:41 AM·9 votes·2,010 views

The rabid SJWs of boards have been whining that female champions have just been pure cheesecake, and nothing more, and that Ilaoi is the ultimate cliche breaker. I'm not even going to argue as to why that argument is flawed, because even its basis is completely unwarranted. Not only has Riot not been making shallow female champions since, well, ever, they haven't been pandering in terms of fanservice in YEARS. I'm going list off the most recent female champions, and stop only when I hit one that you could make a rational argument of fanservicy pandering:

I mean, I guess if your'e into sheep.

I don't think I have to say anything.

You probably wouldn't find her attractive unless you're into necrophilia.

I think if there was a champion that had the exact opposite body type of Miss Fortune, this would be her.

I mean, she's got boobs, sure, but she's also mostly ice.

I'm sure Quinn is very shapely, but its under some extremely conservative clothing.

Three years and seven different female champions discluding Ilaoi, and you've finally got a champion that you could make an argument for pandering. And really, Vi isn't your typical girl, she's fucking huge in terms of stature (I'm pretty sure she's taller than GP, even after his VU). The only thing that is remotely fanservicy is that booty.

In short, Riot has not made a booby bait champion in over three years.

Let's not forget that since the freaking beta we've had , and let's also not forget the many great female nonhuman champions they have released:

Yes, Miss Fortune has big boobs and wide hips with a pencil thin waist, but you don't hear me complaining about Braum having unrealistically sized muscles, or Draven for being completely unrealistic in terms of male beauty standards do you?

I'm not saying that the bikini babe warrior isn't an overplayed cliche, it really is. But Riot is not the worst offender of this, not by a longshot. They're easily better at portraying great female characters than about 90% of the video games out there. Also, do you think replacing one trope with another is going to solve anything? Stop focusing on the body, and focus on the character itself, you might see even more beauty than what is skin deep.

17 Comments

Kobila200011/11/2015, 9:49:36 AM6 votes

I love it, just love it when people mention the champions that resulted from complaints against this retarded objectification as examples of non-objectified champions. If it weren't for those "rabid" SJWs (and you know, people who can think with more than their dicks), we'd still be getting more crap like Zyra, Nami and Syndra back-to-back. No-one (except maybe trolls) is complaining about newer female champions because they're obviously made with the goal of, you know, NOT being boring and objectified like the majority of the previous ones. Currently, LoL is amazing when it comes to female character design.

Vi is "huge"? She has the typical female body, her robohands are what's huge. Take a look at the newest champion for what really is huge. And you realize that using shitty arguments like "She's made of ice" or "She's a plant" doesn't make these characters nonhuman if they don't look like it in any significant way. If you have to tell me a woman is a monster and not just a cosplayer, then the designers did a shitty job. You don't have to tell me Rengar is actually a lion or that Maokai is a mystical tree creature.

The only actual nonhuman female champion we had for the longest time was Anivia and that's probably just because cats and birds tend to get assigned the female gender. All the others were either supermodels in Halloween costumes or "kawaii" chibi girls because male yordles can look like hamster-cat things, but female ones need to look like blue human girls for some reason.

TehNACHO11/11/2015, 6:42:54 AM5 votes

Apparently, Zyra was the main cause of the argument on most accounts.

Something about some people expecting a plant monster before plant bikini stormed into the room.

Slamurai Jack11/11/2015, 8:48:11 AM3 votes

We haven't had a sexy female champion since Vi, nearly 3 years ago. Whiners gonna whine.

redniwediS11/11/2015, 6:37:55 AM3 votes

Unfortunately no, simply because the people who are willing to pick up that argument are not willing to see reason. If they saw reason they wouldn't be using that thing to begin with.

Just save your breath and do your best to ignore them. It's about the only thing we can do that doesn't add to our frustration.

Ralanr11/11/2015, 6:36:53 AM2 votes

I guess we see Ahri so much in game that some people might be sick of her.

I guess.

Dreamspitter11/11/2015, 7:33:54 AM2 votes

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The rabid SJWs of boards have been whining that female champions have just been pure cheesecake, and nothing more, and that Ilaoi is the ultimate cliche breaker. I'm not even going to argue as to why that argument is flawed, because even its basis is completely unwarranted. Not only has Riot not been making shallow female champions since, well, ever, they haven't been pandering in terms of fanservice in YEARS. I'm going list off the most recent female champions, and stop only when I hit one that you could make a rational argument of fanservicy pandering:

I mean, I guess if your'e into sheep.

I don't think I have to say anything.

You probably wouldn't find her attractive unless you're into necrophilia.

I think if there was a champion that had the exact opposite body type of Miss Fortune, this would be her.

I mean, she's got boobs, sure, but she's also mostly ice.

I'm sure Quinn is very shapely, but its under some extremely conservative clothing.

Three years and seven different female champions discluding Ilaoi, and you've finally got a champion that you could make an argument for pandering. And really, Vi isn't your typical girl, she's fucking huge in terms of stature (I'm pretty sure she's taller than GP, even after his VU). The only thing that is remotely fanservicy is that booty.

In short, Riot has not made a booby bait champion in over three years.

Let's not forget that since the freaking beta we've had , and let's also not forget the many great female nonhuman champions they have released:

Yes, Miss Fortune has big boobs and wide hips with a pencil thin waist, but you don't hear me complaining about Braum having unrealistically sized muscles, or Draven for being completely unrealistic in terms of male beauty standards do you?

I'm not saying that the bikini babe warrior isn't an overplayed cliche, it really is. But Riot is not the worst offender of this, not by a longshot. They're easily better at portraying great female characters than about 90% of the video games out there. Also, do you think replacing one trope with another is going to solve anything? Stop focusing on the body, and focus on the character itself, you might see even more beauty than what is skin deep.

#To be honest...

You can objectify anything and anyone, and only hours after Illaoi release there was R34 on reddit. This playerbase, really the internet itself, is into and objectifies a LOT of stuff.

So really, there is NOTHING that is not objectified (whether the artist TRIES to do it or not-its objectified by somebody).

GreenLore11/11/2015, 7:50:40 AM2 votes

Overall I also think that many people are exaggerating on how many fanservice the female champs provide.

However I think the source for this is simply how much more humanoid the female champs in Lol tend to be. Yes female non-human champs do exist,but they are much less compared to the number of non-human male champs(even if we only compare the ratios between human and non-human champs).

In the end I think that fanservice does make sense in some cases,for example it makes sense that Jinx (I'd disagree that she doesn't provide fanservice,since she doesn't wear very much and well not everyone is into big boobs)isn't wearing much becauseshe is supposed to look like a raider from fallout,tank girl or like a mad-max-character.

DragonShea11/11/2015, 8:47:55 PM1 votes

It's only objectification if you are sexist and have no respect for women. yeah I would get stiff near or seeing a scantily clad lady at first glance but at least I would get used to seeing them half naked. So what at least while I don't care too much about how much clothes a woman has, I am getting a little sick of all of this oversexulisation as people keep on pushing for, then say people are being sexist and then contradict themselves on such a scale that they literally cannot understand what when or when not sexualisation has been done right.

People who are shocked easily of sexualisted things, topic and women don't have the fucking right talk about them. Because. You. Can't. Handle it. And trying to be the white knight will just prove. A woman is a woman period. And why the fuck should we flip it in regards to how they look.

And one thing I hate doing is talking about any female rights, is that it makes me feel as if I am talking about women as if they are lower than me, but yet I have to say this because people with just continue with their petty bullshit of not knowing what women's rights is and fighting something that they are figuratively doing blindfolded with gouged out eyes. To me. women are human so like men are. what the fuck is the difference apart from them being them being smaller, lighter, of a different physique like having bigger hips and breasts.

so stop having these dumb-ass discussions about women because it's just gonna make all of you afraid going something sexist while you are already doing it by being ignorant of knowing what your talking about.