Riot, is Jarvan actually Leblanc?

DropFill··9 votes·8,800 views

I have heard a lot of speculation on this, and as it seems, Jarvan IV is dead after that battle against Swain, where you can see Leblanc face on his platechest. But is this actually true or not? Since JoJ is dead and you guys are changing all the lores direction, this champions lore though are still part of the old lore. Can you clarify this at least, before changing? Is j4 actually dead on the "old lore"?

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Narasimha3 votes

The general consensus is that Leblanc captured J4, but he managed to escape after a while. She did impersonate him for a bit, and this most likely where they got his blood for Sion's ritual.

DropFill1 votes

The general consensus is that Leblanc captured J4, but he managed to escape after a while. She did impersonate him for a bit, and this most likely where they got his blood for Sion's ritual.

I don't quite remember , but they changed the fact that was katarina who got Sion's blood from garen so? Capturing J4 or killing him would end in the same situation : a war between Demacia and Noxus, since it would be a outrage against Demacia. At least with him dead, LB could get a lot of informations about Demacia before coming back to Noxus, and would destabilize Demacia with his death.

GreenLore1 votes

katarina found Sions bones,but that has been retconned,it is now swain who managed to found Sions grave when he searched through the documents of Boram darkwill.

Overall Swain does talk about a charade that included Jarvan IVs blood during the Sion-promo which does imply that Leblanc (or at least the black rose as a whole) did use it for something,so it is possible that leblanc impersonated or manipulated Jarvan IV(maybe even both,after all J4 doesn't seem to deny that he attacked swain)

Matezoide3 votes

Riot said LB was never Jarvan and that we interpreted the hints incorrectly.

Thats probably just a bullshit lie they made up because Riot doesnt want to admit they dropped a huge plot-point when JoJ died.

So no. LeBlanc WAS taking his place, but Riot retconned that and is pretending Jarvan was never impersonated during the original story.

DropFill1 votes

Riot said LB was never Jarvan and that we interpreted the hints incorrectly.

Thats probably just a bullshit lie they made up because Riot doesnt want to admit they dropped a huge plot-point when JoJ died.

So no. LeBlanc WAS taking his place, but Riot retconned that and is pretending Jarvan was never impersonated during the original story.

Why they killed JoJ? I wasn't here the journal was still alive, but I took some time to read it, and it is pretty interesting

Matezoide2 votes

Riot said LB was never Jarvan and that we interpreted the hints incorrectly.

Thats probably just a bullshit lie they made up because Riot doesnt want to admit they dropped a huge plot-point when JoJ died.

So no. LeBlanc WAS taking his place, but Riot retconned that and is pretending Jarvan was never impersonated during the original story.

Why they killed JoJ? I wasn't here the journal was still alive, but I took some time to read it, and it is pretty interesting

Riot just realised Lore doesnt give money, so they got rid of JoJ, then the League and completely gutted the lore.

DropFill1 votes

Just to clarify ( my english is kind of bad ) I don't know if the title is proper to what I am asking. I am asking if Leblanc is pretending that she is j4, instead of the other side ( sorry for bad english )

GreenLore1 votes

I think they used j4s blood to alter his memories(or control him for a certain time?) to stage the attack of j4 on swain. In the sion promo it is mentioned how they used the blood for a "charade"

Diahane1 votes

I remember having always been pretty sure about LeBlanc impersonating Jarvan IV just once to stage the aggression to Swain as a way to rise tension in Kalamanda.

Light deus1 votes

lb can only make illusions i doubt she could pull off the stuff the real j4 is able to do

DropFill2 votes

lb can only make illusions i doubt she could pull off the stuff the real j4 is able to do

On the fight of Swain vs Darkwill, I am pretty sure it is LB who is fighting against him, instead, since "he says " watch closely", one of LB quotes, and since he vanishes , I assume she used her "passive" and distortion to get behind Darkwill, and win the duel snaring him. Here is the fight : Onlookers reported that Keiran initially had the upper hand and gradually forced Swain into a corner. "He had the Master Tactician against the wall," stated one witness. "I heard him say 'watch closely,' and he vanished – then reappeared behind Keiran. Swain dragged him to the ground and locked the poor fool in his snare spell."

I am pretty sure LB can impersonate someone. She is one of the most influent champions of this game, at least lore wise

Solidair31 votes

Riot mentioned a while ago that the current j4 is the real one. She impersonated him for a while, but he's back.

DropFill1 votes

Riot mentioned a while ago that the current j4 is the real one. She impersonated him for a while, but he's back.

But how this didn't lead a war between Noxus and Demacia?

Solidair32 votes

Riot mentioned a while ago that the current j4 is the real one. She impersonated him for a while, but he's back.

But how this didn't lead a war between Noxus and Demacia?

If I had to guess, Jarvan was replaced and probably brainwashed, and so no one even realized he was gone. I'm thinking LeBlanc and Swain could pull that off. Perhaps even LeBlanc alone.

She is a scary lady.

DropFill1 votes

She is a scary lady.

She is not scary. She is determinated

IMTOOJUICY1 votes

no, plz, this would ruin J4 + Shyv.

Then again, LB + Shyv leads to... possibilities...

TenshouSNK1 votes

no, plz, this would ruin J4 + Shyv.

Then again, LB + Shyv leads to... possibilities...

It has always been J4 + Quinn.

IMTOOJUICY2 votes

I will FIGHT YOU IRL

nobledonkey1 votes

J4+LeBlanc

IMTOOJUICY1 votes

no, plz, this would ruin J4 + Shyv.

Then again, LB + Shyv leads to... possibilities...

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