Why did Ryze think the power that Xerath wields is feeble?

Fasmodey·Jan 8, 2017·1 votes·1,161 views

Xerath is clearly more destructive and his magic is also versatile.

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TheRiceCollectorJan 8, 20174 votes

Xerath power was never meant for him, therefore being unworthy of such power, Ryze must've somehow realised that and obviously was salty and decided to be bully Xerath

FasmodeyJan 8, 20171 votes

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power was never meant for him, therefore being unworthy of such power, must've somehow realised that and obviously was salty and decided to be bully

It was before Shurima Update though, when league actually existed. He thought about it before retconned lore in other say. There was no Ascension Ritual in this days.

DragonSheaJan 9, 20171 votes

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power was never meant for him, therefore being unworthy of such power, must've somehow realised that and obviously was salty and decided to be bully

Not to mention that Ryze is closer to what Xerath should have looked like if he didn't screw up the ascension ritual and became corrupted.

FasmodeyJan 9, 20171 votes

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Not to mention that is closer to what should have looked like if he didn't screw up the ascension ritual and became corrupted.

Not really. Ryze's body is changed by rune powers, Xerath is fully transformed by cosmic energy. They may have similar look (just being blue but whatever), but they're pretty different.

DragonSheaJan 9, 20171 votes

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Not really. Ryze's body is changed by rune powers, Xerath is fully transformed by cosmic energy. They may have similar look (just being blue but whatever), but they're pretty different.

Fair enough, they are both charged by magic but by different kinds of it. I was referring to the fact that Ryze is someone that has more control over his magical power and this mastery has preserved but changed his body where as Xerath has lost his but is an energy being now.

Ryze might be a little older but they are still in the 1000 year old category and Ryze has had the time to hone his skills with magic and thus increase it to great levels While Xerath got power quickly that hasn't meant for him, got in prisoned and now having been recently freed, his doesn't have the skills or experience with magic that Ryze has, so I don't think that Xerath is skilled at all, powerful yes but he would be someone that is reckless with it as he wants to experience freedom but is going a bit crazy with it and his power to focus it properly.

FasmodeyJan 9, 20171 votes

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Fair enough, they are both charged by magic but by different kinds of it. I was referring to the fact that Ryze is someone that has more control over his magical power and this mastery has preserved but changed his body where as Xerath has lost his but is an energy being now.

Ryze might be a little older but they are still in the 1000 year old category and Ryze has had the time to hone his skills with magic and thus increase it to great levels While Xerath got power quickly that hasn't meant for him, got in prisoned and now having been recently freed, his doesn't have the skills or experience with magic that Ryze has, so I don't think that Xerath is skilled at all, powerful yes but he would be someone that is reckless with it as he wants to experience freedom but is going a bit crazy with it and his power to focus it properly.

Actually, Xerath is master of dark magic according to Dinopawz. He is damn skilled with magic. Xerath was talented with magic even while he was a human.

Saying Xerath is not skilled on magic is like saying Bard is not good at protecting universe. Everything about Xerath is magic. Ryze will never ever have connectiion wirh magic as much as Xerath has with his current form. Xerath is directly related with magic and his inferior experience does not close this gap.

Yes, Xerath has less experience due to his prison, and Ryze travels a lot, but no, Xerath is not stupid enough to go beyond his limits and bring a dangerous point on his body. He is actually pretty good at controlling his emotions. He is logical entity. His sadness did not stop him from killing Azir. He did not go on rage when Azir said "know your place slave" and kill him. Xerath did not kill Nasus when he said slave to him even while he got angry. He even says "Emotions are only distractions".

Xerath would not go full Renekton. So do not hope an explosion due to going beyond his limits.

Experience and stronger will are the only things Xerath needs, sarcophagus is not needed, It should be destroyed.

GreenLoreJan 8, 20171 votes

He might have seen the idea to give up your body for more power as something foolish

Though I think the real reason was likely that Riot wanted Ryze to look wiser than Xerath

FasmodeyJan 8, 20171 votes

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He might have seen the idea to give up your body for more power as something foolish

Though I think the real reason was likely that Riot wanted Ryze to look wiser than Xerath

I wanna see this rivalry in next stories. Maybe Ryze helps to Nasus in future fight with Xerath?

Stars ShaperJan 8, 20171 votes

Xerath power has always been shown as something unstable and it's common agreement that Xerath focuses a lot to keep his form intact. Ryze probably thinks that Xerath won't be able to hold on it for too long (too bad he survived millenia already). Ryze has always been some1 that thought high about himself and his powers hiding behind false modesty.

FasmodeyJan 8, 20171 votes

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Xerath power has always been shown as something unstable and it's common agreement that Xerath focuses a lot to keep his form intact. Ryze probably thinks that Xerath won't be able to hold on it for too long (too bad he survived millenia already). Ryze has always been some1 that thought high about himself and his powers hiding behind false modesty.

I can understand "abomination of a mage" insult, but feeble? It feels like he is directly insulting his power level, rathrer than just thinking he is not gonna hold it for long.

Stars ShaperJan 8, 20171 votes

Feeble also means fragile. Lets say that Ryze sees Xerath as a colossal statue of glass.

LùmenJan 8, 20171 votes

Ryze would definitely understand and fear the potential of his powers but probably recognizes Xerath as an arrogant being and knows the power would probably consume him before he can harness it to its pinnacle in order to be able to destroy Ryze. "That remarkable arcane energy doesn't run through your entire body, does it?" He definitely respects the power, but not the host.

Stars ShaperJan 8, 20171 votes

Indeed. And the fact that Ryze fails to understand that that remarkable arcane energy is Xerath body and being makes the whole argument a lot interesting and gives Ryze a good shade of character which we are not used to: he is failable, we tend to assume that whatever the quote of a champion is he/she is right but in this case we clearly see that Ryze misses the point.

SancreJan 8, 20171 votes

I see it another way. I think Ryze is more or less saying "You can't be so stupid that you overload your whole body with so much raw arcane energy right? Cause that would be an absolute bad idea and quite dumb, having your body being mostly held together by pieces of an ancient coffin and being always in the verge of scattering"

Stars ShaperJan 8, 20171 votes

A valid point. But I guess Xerath has to live with it and probably knows better than Ryze how to do it (yes, I'm on Xerath side).

SancreJan 8, 20171 votes

Ryze is considered a quite adept mage, and he seems to be more or less the same age as Xerath, but yes, Xerath is surely far more experienced on he magic he uses, because he has been using it for quite a long time. Those voicelines probably come from Ryze despising unbound magic that can cause destruction, represented both by Xerath and Brand, but he might not be Xerath's rival because this one has just been freed from his tomb and they haven't met yet.