Warcraft versus League of Legends

Fasmodey··4 votes·1,955 views

I want to figure out what is exact power level of champions compare to a really well written, and personally one of the favourites of me universe's characters. Even though Warcraft descripts its characters power so freaking awesome, they had some parts in the story like they were over told. Examples are Archimonde's End and Illidan's defeat against Arthas (Illidan is descripted as the most powerful demon hunter ever in existence, he became an actual demon, which means he never truly dies until he gets also killed in Twisting Nether. He destroyed the most powerful dreadlord with a super little effort. He is even known as much more powerful than any Burning Legion servant except Archimonde and Kil'Jaeden, yet lost against empowered Arthas by Lich King, who was still a sworded fragile undead).

So what do you think about this matchups?

Aurelion Sol vs Sargeras Bard vs Queen Azshara Xerath vs Kil'Jaeden Nasus vs Illidan Renekton vs Mannoroth Azir vs Tichondrius Syndra vs Jaina Mordekaiser vs Kazzak Karthus vs Kel'Thuzad (lel) Malzahar vs Gul'Dan Rek'Sai vs Anub'arak Zed vs Kael'Thas

I know it is super meaningless and useless to compare 2 different universe's characters but you must admit, it is fun to do. So, I want to argue on it.

I may add more matchup, you can also add. Just try to make close and similar matchups like how I tried.

27 Comments

Verxint1 votes

To be honest, I can't take Warcraft's lore seriously. It's so edgy it needs a warning label.

Fasmodey1 votes

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To be honest, I can't take Warcraft's lore seriously. It's so edgy it needs a warning label.

I actually love it. Everyone has their preference though.

Currently I'm going for Warcraft and LoL. Then I may switch to LoTR and Warhammer, or all of them at the same time. It always happens like this. Every fantastic universe I know had their unregular shining times and it still continues. It came back for Warcraft now and I'm all for WoWWIKI like a nerd.

Beyond Legends1 votes

Meh Warcraft has shit lore because blizzard is retarded at handling their properties. They ruin too many characters for the game and their idiotic out sourcing. Don't get me started with me'dan. WoW is bad game don't play it, this comes from someone who was scam 100 dollars from.

Fasmodey1 votes

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Meh Warcraft has shit lore because blizzard is retarded at handling their properties. They ruin too many characters for the game and their idiotic out sourcing. Don't get me started with me'dan. WoW is bad game don't play it, this comes from someone who was scam 100 dollars from.

We're not discussing its quality in here though, even while I think it is pretty good.

I just tried to learn people's opinion on power level of LoL characters with comparing style.

Still not sure if it was a pretty shit idea or most people of Story, Art & Sound don't know Warcraft lore enough.

Beyond Legends1 votes

Pretty sure wow characters would destroy most League characters, since it is high fatansy compare league epic middle fantasy. Wow has a bizzare power scale that really doesn't make any real sense at all because the whole series was started as a joke. Warcraft 3 made thing better but WoW has desteoyed nearly everything W3 has built.

Peraonaly it's dumb to really compare since wow as weirld logic that just simply doesn't mesh well with league.

Desolas Arterius1 votes

Yo there! I follow the lore for both series very closely, so maybe I could help entertain your idea :)

However, there is a pretty big issue with the list you made considering you're comparing Warcraft with League. Few issues why:

Warcraft has a lot of story archs, so each character you listed isn't always the same. You might want to clarify what time period the character for Warcraft is in. Like, is it current time World of Warcraft lore, such as Legion? Or are we talking Warcraft 1-3, or even before that in the extended universe.

But ignoring that issue (don't get me started on alternate reality versions or twisting nether...) I'll let you know who I honestly think would win:

1: Sargerus 2: Azshara 3: Kil'Jaeden 4: Possibly a tie for Nasus, but Illidan is a tricky one considering he's still growing in power... 5: Renekton 6: Toughy but possibly Azir could beat him. 7: Might be a tie. Really tough with demons considering they are immortal outside of the twisting nether... 8: Oooh I like this one! Though I could easily see Gul'Dan winning... But, which Gul'dan we talking about? 9: Rek'Sai 10: Another tough one, but it all depends on which time period of Kael'Thas is fighting. If it's Kael'thas in his prime still wielding Felo'melorn, then he wins. Without Felom'elorn then Zed easily wins.

I can break it down further for each point, but for now I'll keep it simple :3

Fasmodey1 votes

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Yo there! I follow the lore for both series very closely, so maybe I could help entertain your idea :)

However, there is a pretty big issue with the list you made considering you're comparing Warcraft with League. Few issues why:

Warcraft has a lot of story archs, so each character you listed isn't always the same. You might want to clarify what time period the character for Warcraft is in. Like, is it current time World of Warcraft lore, such as Legion? Or are we talking Warcraft 1-3, or even before that in the extended universe.

But ignoring that issue (don't get me started on alternate reality versions or twisting nether...) I'll let you know who I honestly think would win:

1: Sargerus 2: Azshara 3: Kil'Jaeden 4: Possibly a tie for Nasus, but Illidan is a tricky one considering he's still growing in power... 5: Renekton 6: Toughy but possibly Azir could beat him. 7: Might be a tie. Really tough with demons considering they are immortal outside of the twisting nether... 8: Oooh I like this one! Though I could easily see Gul'Dan winning... But, which Gul'dan we talking about? 9: Rek'Sai 10: Another tough one, but it all depends on which time period of Kael'Thas is fighting. If it's Kael'thas in his prime still wielding Felo'melorn, then he wins. Without Felom'elorn then Zed easily wins.

I can break it down further for each point, but for now I'll keep it simple :3

Warcraft characters are in the strongest power level. Example is Kil'Jaeden. He grew so much power with fel magic. He is not considered as pure, non corrupted draenei in this thread, which he was clearly a lot weaker at this times. Illidan is after Skull of Gul'Dan. Azshara is also in her current form, which she is highly empowered by the Old Gods.

I want to ask, why do you think Sargeras would be stronger than Aurelion Sol? Aurelion Sol creates stars, unimaginable celestial powers that Sargeras cannot use. Yes, he can destroy planets, but a star is not something he is capable to destroy. I think Aurelion Sol is far more stronger than Sargeras could ever be.

Desolas Arterius1 votes

If we're talking about the Warcraft heroes in their strongest, then I hate to burst your bubble but Illidan now controls the power of Fel and Light... Don't... Don't ask why but that's what they did. I still don't agree with it but whatever. Metzen is leaving so hurray @.@ And my choices still remain since I assumed all of them their most powerful forms. Only issue is Gul'Dan and AU Gul'Dan. AU one is actually stronger than our reality funny enough.

You forget that Sargeras is still a Titan who helped form the planets and stars as well. So while they are similar beings, Sargeras also has the power of Fel and demons at his side. He is actually the strongest Titan lore wise, and can easily defeat the others due to his immense growth in power once he became twisted. Sargeras has to be that strong though, if he wasn't he would have never been able to defeat the never-ending horde of demons, old gods, and the other dark beings that inhabited the entire universe. Aurelion is powerful don't get me wrong, but he could never win a fight against a fallen titan like Sargeras.

Only reason Sargeras hasn't personally conquered Azeroth is because he's too powerful to enter our plane of existence. If he did he'd destroy us just by being there. And Sargeras doesn't want to destroy Azeroth, he wants to conquer it and reform the growing titan within our world into another minion of the Burning Legion. Hence why he tried to get Azshara to summon him during the War of the Ancients. Only way he could enter our world without destroying it.

Demons that enter our world are actually much weaker than when they're in the Twisting Nether. So that's why if Aurelion were to fight Sargeras he'd have to enter the Twisting Nether into Sargeras's plane of existence, and essentially get turned into smoked dragon jerky :P

Fasmodey1 votes

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If we're talking about the Warcraft heroes in their strongest, then I hate to burst your bubble but Illidan now controls the power of Fel and Light... Don't... Don't ask why but that's what they did. I still don't agree with it but whatever. Metzen is leaving so hurray @.@ And my choices still remain since I assumed all of them their most powerful forms. Only issue is Gul'Dan and AU Gul'Dan. AU one is actually stronger than our reality funny enough.

You forget that Sargeras is still a Titan who helped form the planets and stars as well. So while they are similar beings, Sargeras also has the power of Fel and demons at his side. He is actually the strongest Titan lore wise, and can easily defeat the others due to his immense growth in power once he became twisted. Sargeras has to be that strong though, if he wasn't he would have never been able to defeat the never-ending horde of demons, old gods, and the other dark beings that inhabited the entire universe. Aurelion is powerful don't get me wrong, but he could never win a fight against a fallen titan like Sargeras.

Only reason Sargeras hasn't personally conquered Azeroth is because he's too powerful to enter our plane of existence. If he did he'd destroy us just by being there. And Sargeras doesn't want to destroy Azeroth, he wants to conquer it and reform the growing titan within our world into another minion of the Burning Legion. Hence why he tried to get Azshara to summon him during the War of the Ancients. Only way he could enter our world without destroying it.

Demons that enter our world are actually much weaker than when they're in the Twisting Nether. So that's why if Aurelion were to fight Sargeras he'd have to enter the Twisting Nether into Sargeras's plane of existence, and essentially get turned into smoked dragon jerky :P

Titans form planets yes, but I never heard they worked on stars too. Is there any source?

Also forming stars is not that impressive compare to forging stars and destroying them at will. He literally created all stars in the universe, he created all galaxies. He can also destroy them if he desires.

He seems Runeterra so fragile, with super little effort, he can destroy it.

but he could never win a fight against a fallen titan like Sargeras.

This just seems biased IMO. This is just denying power of Aurelion Sol. It is probably because of having a lot more information and more deeply descripted powers for Sargeras. Other then, comparing actual abilities clearly shows who is the winner.

I can create a champion with name of Shigo and say he has power to reality warping in limitless level, which makes him true omnipotent. Even while it is dumb and highly amateur, it doesn't change the fact that he is far far more powerful than Aurelion Sol and Sargeras combined.

It is what is going on there now. This is the case. Sargeras is more well-written power wise, but it doesn't mean he is overwhelmingly more powerful than Aurelion Sol.

Desolas Arterius1 votes

I think it's just too tough to compare considering we're talking about two different types celestials. I think Aurelion could easily beat any other Titan, but when it comes to Sargeras I think it's too difficult because of Fel and the different types of magic. The titans are beings of creation and arcane, but arcane isn't exactly in the League universe, nor is fel. So it's hard to judge powers accurately.

I feel if Sargeras didn't have fel, then Aurelion would win, but because he has the power of fel (which if I remember correctly existed in the beginning of time/creation), then he kind of has a leg up over Aurelion.

As for the stars. They work on all planets (which includes stars if we're getting technical) and monitor them using the constellars. Regardless if the "planet" is inhabitable, they'll shape it and monitor it. And eradicate it if deemed necessary.

I'm not trying to deny Aurelion's power, he's probably lore-wise the strongest in League, I'm just saying Sargeras probably has an advantage considering he's a being of arcane and fel, and also being the strongest in Warcraft lore.

But it's also not really fair comparing the two because one has had YEARS of writing, while the other is still fresh, like you said. So it's just really tough. I still think the Fel is really the reason why Sargeras would win, but without it Aurelion would win.

Fasmodey1 votes

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I think it's just too tough to compare considering we're talking about two different types celestials. I think Aurelion could easily beat any other Titan, but when it comes to Sargeras I think it's too difficult because of Fel and the different types of magic. The titans are beings of creation and arcane, but arcane isn't exactly in the League universe, nor is fel. So it's hard to judge powers accurately.

I feel if Sargeras didn't have fel, then Aurelion would win, but because he has the power of fel (which if I remember correctly existed in the beginning of time/creation), then he kind of has a leg up over Aurelion.

As for the stars. They work on all planets (which includes stars if we're getting technical) and monitor them using the constellars. Regardless if the "planet" is inhabitable, they'll shape it and monitor it. And eradicate it if deemed necessary.

I'm not trying to deny Aurelion's power, he's probably lore-wise the strongest in League, I'm just saying Sargeras probably has an advantage considering he's a being of arcane and fel, and also being the strongest in Warcraft lore.

But it's also not really fair comparing the two because one has had YEARS of writing, while the other is still fresh, like you said. So it's just really tough. I still think the Fel is really the reason why Sargeras would win, but without it Aurelion would win.

Actually, Xerath is Well of Eternity's living version. He is pure arcane magic. So, arcane magic exists in League of Legends. It is just not same. (Xerath's arcane magic is corrupted though, like how fel is corrupted arcane. So, we can say Xerath is living fel magic in Warcraft terms).

Fel magic is overrated. It is the best magic type to bring destruction but it has weaknesses. Like how Archimonde got rekt against magic of nature.

Desolas Arterius1 votes

Xerath is still fairly unstable though considering he wasn't actually "worthy" of the ritual. But yeah that is a pretty good comparison two the different types of magic in each series.

Eh, Archimonde didn't actually die during the War of the Ancients, just his vessel on our plane did. We only just recently killed him in WoD (like legit killed him... Which is still fucking odd and I don't agree with lol). But we didn't Allah Akbar a bunch of wisps this time :P We just straight up slaughtered him and his demons.

I don't think Fel magic is overrated. I just think it's a boring, Overpowered excuse to WoW haha. It was okay when it was used as an answer every now and then, now it's like "LET'S JIZZ FELMAGIC EVERYWHERE CUZ ITS OP". Really lame honestly. But lore wise Fel magic is extremely powerful, corrupting, and it essentially consumes and destroys all it touches. Hence why only demons/demonic creatures can wield it. Yet they still go mad and pretty much fuck shit up. Think Warlocks really. They use Fel magic and suck the life out of everything. All they do is destroy and consume. Whereas Arcane doesn't do that. It can destroy things, but not in the manner that Fel does.

The writing has been getting really weird and not in the best way though. Especially with the disgusting expansion release that is Warlords of Draenor.. That shit royally fucked up so much crap that the lore is making less sense now x_x

Fasmodey1 votes

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Xerath is still fairly unstable though considering he wasn't actually "worthy" of the ritual. But yeah that is a pretty good comparison two the different types of magic in each series.

Eh, Archimonde didn't actually die during the War of the Ancients, just his vessel on our plane did. We only just recently killed him in WoD (like legit killed him... Which is still fucking odd and I don't agree with lol). But we didn't Allah Akbar a bunch of wisps this time :P We just straight up slaughtered him and his demons.

I don't think Fel magic is overrated. I just think it's a boring, Overpowered excuse to WoW haha. It was okay when it was used as an answer every now and then, now it's like "LET'S JIZZ FELMAGIC EVERYWHERE CUZ ITS OP". Really lame honestly. But lore wise Fel magic is extremely powerful, corrupting, and it essentially consumes and destroys all it touches. Hence why only demons/demonic creatures can wield it. Yet they still go mad and pretty much fuck shit up. Think Warlocks really. They use Fel magic and suck the life out of everything. All they do is destroy and consume. Whereas Arcane doesn't do that. It can destroy things, but not in the manner that Fel does.

The writing has been getting really weird and not in the best way though. Especially with the disgusting expansion release that is Warlords of Draenor.. That shit royally fucked up so much crap that the lore is making less sense now x_x

I didn't say Archimonde is dead, but it doesn't change the fact he was totally got rekt and utterly defeated :P. For a such a powerful fel magic user like him had to stop it before his destruction. He is either dumb or fel was not powerful enough to stop magic of nature in there.

Xerath is not unstable because he was not chosen, but power beyond his will. He currently can't control that much power. Let controlling full potential of his power, he can't even move if he gets unbound. He needs experience, magical control and stronger will.

Desolas Arterius1 votes

Yeh he got rekt by tree huggers. But honestly it's because demons in our plane are much weaker than they are in their plane of existence in the Twisting Nether. Which is why us killing Archi in WoD makes no sense. But I digress lol

That's true, but seems more like he can't control all that magic because he wasn't chosen to be ascended unlike Azir, Nasus, and Renekton who didn't have trouble controlling their powers after they transformed. He's still hella strong though.

Also! I asked some people around me who know a bit on league and wow lore on who would win with Aurelion vs Sargeras. I only asked two since they're the only friends I have who play both :P Either way they split haha. My Fiance thinks Aurelion would win because he can control stars and essentially make black holes (fair example), whereas my friend says Sargeras due to his immense amount of fel magic and dominion over it. They don't know as much as I do unfortunately, but it was some cool outside insight to the discussion!

Also I hope you are enjoying this discussion! I'm actually having a blast debating the power of characters from different games :D

Fasmodey1 votes

Do we know if being stronger in Twisting Nether is only specific for demons or not? I think it is related with Twisted Nether itself. It seems like it is much more bound with magic, your spells get stronger in there. But I think even a mortal being would get stronger in Twisting Nether if they found a way to go here.

Renekton wasn't chosen either but he got ascended (I'm going full Xerath, that's what he said to Nasus). I think it is more related with much longer ritual. He messed up with ritual so bad. It is a side effect. Also, none of the Ascended beings were powerful as much as Xerath in the beginning of ritual. He was the greatest magus of Shurima. Maybe Ascension cares about it too. We don't know though.

Yes, I forgot Aurelion Sol's ability to create black holes. He has full control on stars. And Black Holes were once a star.

Of course I'm enjoying. xD I'm crazy on discussing 2 different universe's characters. And you have valid arguments. It is fun to argue with you.

Desolas Arterius1 votes

I honestly don't know if affects anyone else other than demons. The closest we've gotten is recently with the Illidari hunting down demons in their own planes in the twisting nether. But they don't seem stronger than they are in Azeroth. But that could also be because they're partial demons as well. Really tough on that one. I would assume it would affect some individuals (perhaps warlocks or mages), but I'm honestly not sure. There aren't many cases of that D:

Yeah but for Renekton he was deemed worthy due to his ultimate sacrifice of love for his brother. Hence why he received the gift as did Nasus. He was ready to accept the fact that he was going to die in order to let his brother live carrying him into the Ascension Ritual. Whereas Xerath did neither and instead wanted the power for himself by taking Azir's Ascension. But yeah we really don't know enough about the Ascension and what requirements it has for becoming ascended. I do hope Riot expands on that though. The Shurima event was fantastic and I really want to learn more.

Makes you wonder if the black hole would displace someone like Sargeras, or maybe kill him. Who knows D: I'm not sure since there hasn't been anything of demons getting sucked into black holes lol.

Yeah for sure :D I love both games a lot. Just hard to compare sometimes because Warcraft is far more fleshed out compared to league.

Fasmodey1 votes

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I honestly don't know if affects anyone else other than demons. The closest we've gotten is recently with the Illidari hunting down demons in their own planes in the twisting nether. But they don't seem stronger than they are in Azeroth. But that could also be because they're partial demons as well. Really tough on that one. I would assume it would affect some individuals (perhaps warlocks or mages), but I'm honestly not sure. There aren't many cases of that D:

Yeah but for Renekton he was deemed worthy due to his ultimate sacrifice of love for his brother. Hence why he received the gift as did Nasus. He was ready to accept the fact that he was going to die in order to let his brother live carrying him into the Ascension Ritual. Whereas Xerath did neither and instead wanted the power for himself by taking Azir's Ascension. But yeah we really don't know enough about the Ascension and what requirements it has for becoming ascended. I do hope Riot expands on that though. The Shurima event was fantastic and I really want to learn more.

Makes you wonder if the black hole would displace someone like Sargeras, or maybe kill him. Who knows D: I'm not sure since there hasn't been anything of demons getting sucked into black holes lol.

Yeah for sure :D I love both games a lot. Just hard to compare sometimes because Warcraft is far more fleshed out compared to league.

But I still believe Xerath can reach to his max potential. Whatever he ascended as chosen or not. I'm just not sure how much powerful he is in this level.

I like to see him as above of Kil'Jaeden though.

Warcraft always descripts power of its characters pretty strong, but except few of cases, they never been that strong. Tichondrius, as the lieutenant of Burning Legion and the most powerful dreadlord, got rekt by Illidan easily. Then Illidan, in one of cutscenes, saved by a demon hunter under at his command from an annihilan. He is descripted as more powerful than any Burning Legion member except Kil'Jaeden and Archimonde, yet he had death moment against an annihilan.

Desolas Arterius1 votes

Oh I don't doubt that over time Xerath will grow more powerful. But unfortunately with how league's story is there is no progression for characters lore wise. Whereas for Warcraft the characters are constantly growing and changing with every new installment and in the extended universe. I think he could easily surpass Kil'Jaeden if he were to fully control his powers and no longer be unstable due to his massive amounts of raw energy, but unfortunately Xerath isn't at that point currently, whereas Kil'jaeden is hence why we've never been able to defeat him.

Tichondrius was just a lieutenant though, so he wasn't as powerful as Kil'Jaeden or any of the other notable demons. And still had the same issue as every demon does in Warcraft where they are weaker in our plane compared to theirs. Hence why Mannoroth and other Pitlord demons were killed by orcs among all things. Illidan, who was one of the strongest and most powerful mages at the time, got his power boosted even more when he absorbed the skull of Gul'dan. He isn't hindered by being split into two planes of existence, so his power isn't cut in half or weakened.

Hence why when he went against that Pitlord in the Harbinger animation, he needed a small hand going against the demon since they went to that demon's plane of existence in the Twisting Nether.

Fasmodey1 votes

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Oh I don't doubt that over time Xerath will grow more powerful. But unfortunately with how league's story is there is no progression for characters lore wise. Whereas for Warcraft the characters are constantly growing and changing with every new installment and in the extended universe. I think he could easily surpass Kil'Jaeden if he were to fully control his powers and no longer be unstable due to his massive amounts of raw energy, but unfortunately Xerath isn't at that point currently, whereas Kil'jaeden is hence why we've never been able to defeat him.

Tichondrius was just a lieutenant though, so he wasn't as powerful as Kil'Jaeden or any of the other notable demons. And still had the same issue as every demon does in Warcraft where they are weaker in our plane compared to theirs. Hence why Mannoroth and other Pitlord demons were killed by orcs among all things. Illidan, who was one of the strongest and most powerful mages at the time, got his power boosted even more when he absorbed the skull of Gul'dan. He isn't hindered by being split into two planes of existence, so his power isn't cut in half or weakened.

Hence why when he went against that Pitlord in the Harbinger animation, he needed a small hand going against the demon since they went to that demon's plane of existence in the Twisting Nether.

What a wonderful text. It was fun a lot to read. Thanks.

I find Xerath similar to Kil'jaeden. Both is talented on magic, have natural skill. Their innate magical skills allow them to cast more than one magic type. Most of warcraft and lol mages use one magic type. They both also want to rule and be superior to anyone. They are indomitable and only loyal to themselves. They are also the most powerfuls of their kind.

Pretty alike IMO.

What about Syndra versus Jaina? Jaina is the most powerful human sorceress on Azeroth but Syndra is also really tough.

Desolas Arterius1 votes

Oh I definitely agree! Xerath and Kil would easily be besties if they could :P

As for Syndra and Jaina, I think they're both pretty equal in power. Jaina is on the council for the Kirin Tor, which not any ordinary mage can be apart of. If anything, I think they're both very similar, especially nowadays were Jaina's personality has really shifted into a more bitchy, hell bent on seeking vengeance type of character lol. She's no longer that calm, wise mage who was trying to seek true peace between the Alliance and the Horde. Now all she wants to is utterly destroy the Horde and wipe them off of Azeroth.

I don't think one or the other could beat them at this point. I think the only way Jaina could win is if she calmed down and stopped becoming so blinded by rage and hate. I think only then Jaina could win, but right now her actions are being guided by emotion, so she doesn't think clearly anymore.

Really sad though, I used to love Jaina until Pandaria D: Then after that they turned her into a massive bitch haha.

Fasmodey1 votes

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Oh I definitely agree! Xerath and Kil would easily be besties if they could :P

As for Syndra and Jaina, I think they're both pretty equal in power. Jaina is on the council for the Kirin Tor, which not any ordinary mage can be apart of. If anything, I think they're both very similar, especially nowadays were Jaina's personality has really shifted into a more bitchy, hell bent on seeking vengeance type of character lol. She's no longer that calm, wise mage who was trying to seek true peace between the Alliance and the Horde. Now all she wants to is utterly destroy the Horde and wipe them off of Azeroth.

I don't think one or the other could beat them at this point. I think the only way Jaina could win is if she calmed down and stopped becoming so blinded by rage and hate. I think only then Jaina could win, but right now her actions are being guided by emotion, so she doesn't think clearly anymore.

Really sad though, I used to love Jaina until Pandaria D: Then after that they turned her into a massive bitch haha.

Kil'jaeden would try to make Xerath a minion of himself and Xerath would try to consume all fel energy Kil'jaeden has due to its immense magical powers. They definitely would be enemies. Xerath probably not a big fan of demon spawns. xd

Jaina is going to be killed I believe. Blizzard usually kills corrupted good alignmented champions.

Desolas Arterius1 votes

I don't think Xerath really cares. Power is power to both of them :P So why not be powerful allies with their own goals.

I don't think they're going to kill Jaina... yet. Probably just retire her like they've done with Thrall. Thrall no longer wields Doomhammer and since Metzen is retiring it's pretty obvious he's going to go away.

At this point in the story I think they're going to cycle in fresh faces compared to the typical Varian, Jaina, Thrall, etc. Hence why we have Sylvanas as Warchief, and Baine has a little more prominence in the story.

Really sad to see Vol'Jin die though. He didn't get a lot of time in the limelight and was unfortunately just kicked to the curb by Blizzard :( Really sad because he has a great back story and is honestly a great character. Could have been even better if they kept expanding on him.

RobTheTank1 votes

Warcraft vs. League of Legends: League wins!!!

PermabannedGaren1 votes

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I want to figure out what is exact power level of champions compare to a really well written, and personally one of the favourites of me universe's characters. Even though Warcraft descripts its characters power so freaking awesome, they had some parts in the story like they were over told. Examples are Archimonde's End and Illidan's defeat against Arthas (Illidan is descripted as the most powerful demon hunter ever in existence, he became an actual demon, which means he never truly dies until he gets also killed in Twisting Nether. He destroyed the most powerful dreadlord with a super little effort. He is even known as much more powerful than any Burning Legion servant except Archimonde and Kil'Jaeden, yet lost against empowered Arthas by Lich King, who was still a sworded fragile undead).

So what do you think about this matchups?

Aurelion Sol vs Sargeras Bard vs Queen Azshara Xerath vs Kil'Jaeden Nasus vs Illidan Renekton vs Mannoroth Azir vs Tichondrius Syndra vs Jaina Mordekaiser vs Kazzak Karthus vs Kel'Thuzad (lel) Malzahar vs Gul'Dan Rek'Sai vs Anub'arak Zed vs Kael'Thas

I know it is super meaningless and useless to compare 2 different universe's characters but you must admit, it is fun to do. So, I want to argue on it.

I may add more matchup, you can also add. Just try to make close and similar matchups like how I tried.

You could pit every Warcraft character in that list against Aurelion Sol and Sol would still win. You could pit every Warcraft character written against Aurelion Sol and Sol would win.

He is orders of magnitude more powerful than anything Warcraft has demonstrated. Which I guess makes League of Legends more powerful than Warcraft.

Fasmodey1 votes

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You could pit every Warcraft character in that list against Aurelion Sol and Sol would still win. You could pit every Warcraft character written against Aurelion Sol and Sol would win.

He is orders of magnitude more powerful than anything Warcraft has demonstrated. Which I guess makes League of Legends more powerful than Warcraft.

There should be at least a few more entites like Aurelon Sol in LoL universe, so that is way I think LoL is stronger, but I do not think Aurelion Sol would have a chance against All Titan Pantheon + Corrupted Sargeras. Even if was not enough, there are Old Gods, Elune, Voidlords. Still they would lost against Aurelion Sol + 2 more Aurelion Sol like entities though.

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