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@Riot Have you guys ever thought of this?

Zerenza··2 votes·433 views

Having a champion die in a huge story cinematic or something then being replaced by someone with abilities that are similar(to initiate a full VGU)

A good example of how this could happen is Kassadin.

Let's say Kassadin ends up in a climatic final battle with swarms of Void Creature's along with Malzahar. Kassadin decimates the army, cuts through the enemy lines and ends up battling Malzahar in huge event, animated and everything, but just as he's about to win, he dies(how i don't know).

Right after his death, out of the void comes Kassadins Daughter, her time in the void has definitely taken its toll but she's gained abilities far past that of any normal person, abilities similar to her Father but not the same her anger ignites and she inherits her father's will to destroy the Void.

Something like that, have you guys ever thought of doing that for a VGU? If you haven't then I think it would be amazing but you'd only be able to do it once for it to be special and epic!

Disclaimer: I don't want Kassadin removed, this is an EXAMPLE for the sole purpose of getting my thought through, nothing else.

Edit: I thought this board was better about not Downvoting people...

13 Comments

Final Spark Lux3 votes

Killing off a well established character just to replace them with someone similar would be a sure fire way to make a giant chunk of the community extremely angry and upset. If that character is dead, they no longer exist. Even if it's something similar, it isn't -that- champion. That would be replacing, not updating.

I'm not sure how passionate / invested you are into the lore, or if you have any favorite champion, but let's say you are very into it and have a favorite champion. What do you think your reaction would be like if Riot decided to -kill- them off just to replace them with something similar? No more playing as them, no more stories about them, no nothing. They're just gone. Odds are you'd be pretty upset.

VGU's already put people on edge, because there's a real chance of the champion that people have come to know and love be changed in such a way that it no longer resembles them. That's bad enough as it is. Killing one off? No thanks.

Whyte Lyon3 votes

I would consider myself invested, but even I don't flip my shit like most do when a champion is "replaced with something similar but not the same." Obviously referring to VGUs and major LU overhauls, since actual characters dying hasn't been practiced yet.

I imagine it would make for a pretty radical experiment on Riot's behalf. That alone might make it interesting enough that I wouldn't care that a character I had more of an affinity for was the causality. I would definitely be curious what replaces Tahm Kench in this hypercritical.

But yeah try telling others that their character has changed even a tiny bit from their old-self. Yikes!

WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOO3 votes

IMO people get way too dramatic whenever Riot “deletes” a champion. The butthurt persists for months and it’s just annoying to deal with people for whom this is a great tragedy.

Beacon Academy1 votes

Malzahar was an unfortunate event for more than just his mains

Zerenza1 votes

While i agree, i think if it's for the sake of fleshing out something that they couldn't with the older one, it would be really cool especially if it's coupled with a huge event, badass cinematics and such.

I think kassadin is a really good example, his current drive is to destroy the void and prevent the void invasion. After seeing the void himself he was struck with extreme fear, his daughter was "Killed" before his eyes by Malzahar, and his drive to destroy the void increased.

There are some things you can do with Kassadin but the whole "Destroy X" is really hard to flesh out and while i dont think he NEEDS a VGU(probably just a VU) he's the most likely candidate for this scenario. Having his daughter come back, having experience the void more than he did and instead of Fear she Despizes it, meaning unlike Kassadin her drive to destroy it would be even more powerful since nothing is holding back her hatred for the place and it's creature's+Malzahar would really flesh out BOTH character's and make for a really interesting VGU(since it hasn't been done before).

Not very many other champions come to mind that this could happen to as well, since most champs in league have no family or their family is mostly dead, they also don't have any Apprentices either.

I personally would like to see this done someday just for the sake of it being an incredible event, but again, you can only do it once.

Side Note: My favorite champion was Evelynn, and still is, i played her religious before the rework and after it(to this day), my other favorites are Yorick, Illaoi, and Warwick. If they changed any of these champions i'd honestly be perfectly fine with it, i don't care if the champion is killed off as long as there is a really good story to go with it along with an Event. Warwick is basically completely different, like who the hell pissed off Soraka now, not Warwick, he doesn't exist anymore lol I'm perfectly fine with how they change champions since recently they've done excellent jobs with it and i trust them basically completely.

Final Spark Lux1 votes

For something as serious as straight up deleting a character, you gotta think beyond the story. This would effect League as a whole. Even if it was a good story, and it fit thematically, it wouldn't only effect lore, but the game as well. You have to remember there are die-hard fans for every champion, and while you personally might be okay with it, there's a very good chance that there are significantly more people who wouldn't be. It would infuriate a lot of people; not just the people who main that champion, but other people as well.

It isn't only from a story or game perspective either. It can potentially take thousands of man-hours to develop a champion. That's an insane amount of time, money, and effort put into this character. From the financial standpoint alone, it would be an incredibly large waste of all these resources to do this to a champion. There is nothing to be gained from doing this with the exception of many rightfully angry champion mains, and anyone who cared for the champion in general.

There are other ways Riot can go about bringing Kassadin's daughter back into existence without ending him. The same can be said for anything they'd like to do regarding lore around other champions.

Digielf2 votes

they did it with gangplank and it annoyed a lot of people since he got disabled for a week without any serious reason, also kassadin already had his visual update

Zerenza1 votes

Disclaimer: I don't want Kassadin removed, this is an EXAMPLE for the sole purpose of getting my thought through, nothing else.

I know he did. And gangplank died but came back to life, it's not the same thing. Wish people would stop downvoting without reading.

Digielf2 votes

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Disclaimer: I don't want Kassadin removed, this is an EXAMPLE for the sole purpose of getting my thought through, nothing else.

I know he did. And gangplank died but came back to life, it's not the same thing. Wish people would stop downvoting without reading.

i didn't downvote, i only downvote posts that try to desperately bash Anime or asian culture in general because they can't accept how mainstream it is which isn't the case here, and you are using blood moon avatar which is good

GreenLore3 votes

But GP survived....

gabetheguy3 votes

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they did it with gangplank and it annoyed a lot of people since he got disabled for a week without any serious reason, also kassadin already had his visual update

kassadin had a very old visual update. he's still outdated and ugly.

Digielf2 votes

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kassadin had a very old visual update. he's still outdated and ugly.

It wasn't old at all, it was acctualy after many other champs got their visual update, after Karthus, Twitch, Garen etc, he definately doesn't need a second visual update while many others never had theirs

Ebonmaw Dragon1 votes

It is possible, but bassed on the downvotes of this threads, i dont think that people would be happy about Riot killing their characters.

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