So since Evelynn requires seducing to kill humans...

Fasmodey·Sep 24, 2017·10 votes·1,718 views

Does that mean Evelynn seduced both mom and dad of Vayne?

[sg-ahri-1]

34 Comments

DariusDemiurgeSep 24, 201714 votes

One might say it was a... family affair.

FasmodeySep 24, 201714 votes

Dinner was hot and delicious they said.

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TokogawarufSep 24, 20172 votes

Im totally not gonna steal that Tham Pepe right now.

ThunderSkelettSep 24, 20174 votes

kinky shit*[sg-jinx]*

Eternal791Sep 24, 20172 votes

I was wondering the same thing. It's possible they committed an act of lust on their own, like one or both of them had an affair and then Evelynn came along (possibly seduced one) killed them, and then the other walked in and with their lustful sins fresh in the air and as a result Evelyn was able to kill them too.

LunSeiSleideeSep 24, 20171 votes

I find it more likely that she seduces one of the two and then kills them both. Kinda like what's happening in her splash art.

FasmodeySep 24, 20172 votes

Reav3 said Evelynn needs requirement to harm and kill humans. So, without seducing the Queen, she can't kill her. Maybe that's why she left Vayne alive, because she was immature and kid, she wouldn't understand sexuality. So it was pointless to seduce her, and left.

DrCyanideSep 24, 20171 votes

Maybe the emphasis is on humans. Maybe Vayne's mom isn't strictly human.

FasmodeySep 24, 20171 votes

Maybe. But I doubt that.

Bard R FridaySep 24, 20172 votes

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Reav3 said Evelynn needs requirement to harm and kill humans. So, without seducing the Queen, she can't kill her. Maybe that's why she left Vayne alive, because she was immature and kid, she wouldn't understand sexuality. So it was pointless to seduce her, and left.

Vayne was 16 when she found her parents dead, that's easily old enough to be seduced.

FasmodeySep 25, 20171 votes

Ye hadn't remembered that. I thought she was a kid when that happened. Like 8-10.

Maybe she has age limit lmao I dont know.

Lady FacelessSep 25, 20171 votes

In the old Vayne lore she was pretty young than her parents got killed. In the new lore she is 16, so she could have been easily been seducted with this age.

Shortly after Vayne’s sixteenth birthday, she returned home from a midsummer banquet and saw something she would never forget.

Vayne Lore

However I could imagine Evelynn is unable to strike against people within the a-spectrum. On the other hand, maybe Evelynn didn't killed her since she knew that Vaynes hatred would consume her. Reav3 mentions we will get some information about demons, so I guess we will get some answers.

GreenLoreSep 25, 20171 votes

Well keep in mind that when Tahm kench wrecked the wedding of the gambler,he didn't actually kill the gambler and instead killed/destroyed everything/-one else.

So while Eve might need a sort of "pact" with a human to be able to kill anyone,it doesn't mean that she can only kill the guy who made a pact with her.

FasmodeySep 25, 20171 votes

But probably only the things that packer cares the most. Like how Gambler's fiance was his precious. Only that, satisfied Tahm Kench.

Seems all demons like misery + their aspect.

Tahm Kench misery + greed. Evelynn misery + lust. Nocturne misery + fear.

So if she ever seduces a person, she can kill him or her plus things they care the most, like their wife or husband, and probably the child too.

That's creates another question. Why did she leave Vayne alive?

GreenLoreSep 25, 20171 votes

Maybe she can only kill persons to which the "pactmaker" is sexually attracted to?

Or she might have simply left Vayne alive out of cruelty.

FasmodeySep 25, 20171 votes

First one makes sense a lot. Second is also possible.

SancreSep 24, 20171 votes

Seducing shouldn't be the main method, just a way to bait some easy to fool prey, but she does have a shadow form, that seems vicious enough to rip Batma....Vayne's parents to pieces without needing to seduce anyone

FasmodeySep 24, 20171 votes

That's the problem.

She has demonic form, her true form, but without seducing she can't kill anyone. She requires invatition to kill, like a Rakshasa. She is limited, but also terribly dangerous if you don't know her true nature and have a weak will.

For that reason, she hides her true form and makes herself an attractive woman so she can seduce, kill and sustain herself. When she goes invisible, she doesn't need to hide herself anymore, and she gives no more effort for an illusion.

SancreSep 24, 20175 votes

I doubt that Eve is actually limited to seduce before killing, or she wouldn't be competing with Camille as one of the best assassins, as she would be quite slow, and a straigh woman would be almost impossible to kill for her

It would be something like:

Evelynn : You sure you aren't lesbian? give it another try please [sg-soraka]

While Camille just jumps into the room though the windows and start spinning while shouting

Camille : BLADE BREAKDANCE MOTHERF******!!

And the whole place would already be a slaughterhouse in 3 seconds

FasmodeySep 24, 20171 votes

Evelynn is no more paid assassin. That's retconned. She only works for herself. Like she chooses her victims, not the dealers, as she is demon now.

And we dont know if she can seduce people even that show no interest in females or not. Maybe she can. She is magical in the end.

SancreSep 24, 20171 votes

Has any new story about her been published since that one that came close to her current splash and Piltover's update?

"The Shadows Beckon" was the name

FasmodeySep 24, 20171 votes

Reav3 says here that this color text is no more canon.

And here he talks about demons and their requirements.

SancreSep 24, 20171 votes

I hadn't seen that one before, its cool i guess, but it was a bit cooler to think that she was a famous assassin that could strike from the shadows, and also was a demon.

I hope the demonic bargaining doesn't translate into the game with some weird mechanic like Kayn's ult, something like "you have to charm the enemy champion you want to ult or you have no ult"

Eternal791Sep 24, 20171 votes

I don't think it will transfer to gameplay to that extent. Likely just gives you a bit of a helping hand if you successfully charm and debuff them.

As for the lore, for all we know, she could still be an assassin for hire, she just has to seduce her target now. We haven't gotten her new lore yet, so we really don't know a whole lot. Though I will admit that its likely she's not an assassin anymore.

QueenpinSep 24, 20172 votes

I mean Ahri can still charm champs like Camille, Illaoi, and Xayah even though they're straight females. Why would it be different for a desire demon/succubus/Rakshasa?

SancreSep 24, 20172 votes

Because my example was from the point of lore, while yours is from a gameplay view, where teemo can blind Lee, Aurelion sol can be killed by anyone and Rakan can charm everyone without Xayah beating him to a pulp

QueenpinSep 24, 20172 votes

Ok, what I'm trying to say is that whatever Eve is she something with more power then Ahri or Rakan. The latter are basically just human animal hybrids with magic capabilities. As a creature who's whole deal is to seduce and slaughter I feel like Eve will be able to convince/charm/sway whoever she's decided to prey upon.

I mean, she'd be pretty lame if all you have to do ward her off is say "Uh... sorry I'm not into girls." Obviously I don't know for sure because her lore isn't out yet, but I feel like since she chooses to look like a voluptuous woman when she's being observed and reverts to her monster form when in stealth she can Ditto it up and look like whatever she needs to ~~get that egg ~~ seduce people. Or, Eve is just Alisha from Misfits.

SancreSep 24, 20171 votes

That is a likely posibility, but it would be nice that Riot gave us more insight in how her charm works, as it wouldn't be that strange if she just caused arousal or something on the objective by altering the mind with magic, making it indifferent the sexual likings on that prey. It would be interesting to know how that would work in twisted minds like jhin's, that is both aromantic and asexual

Chembaron YamadaSep 24, 20175 votes

The story in which Evelynn got hired as an assassin and Camille gets mentioned is no longer canon. Stated by a Rioter. Evelynn is now a demon like Tahm Kench, killing to nourish herself.
Since she is a demon like Tahm Kench, she is bound to some rules, just like him. Tahm Kench needs a contract with his victim to devour him at the end, without that contract, he can't harm anyone. Same applies to Evelynn, some action has to happen before she can kill and her beauty is the bait for that. It got not directly mentioned if she has to seducethe victim, but there is a requirement for the killing.

SancreSep 24, 20171 votes

Yes, Fasmodey already handled me the links to where that was said.

I can't help but think that she no longer being a famous killer is a bit of lost potential, but the demon bounty hunter might become Shaco in the future, so it's all well I think

Solidair3Sep 24, 20171 votes

I mean I guess so? I assume she uses magic to aid in her attraction. I doubt just being really hot would get both of Vayne's parents.

OurLestradeSep 24, 20171 votes

I think I saw a fanfic along those lines once.

some degenerateSep 24, 20171 votes

Honest answer: doubtful.

If Tahm's lore is anything to go by, he made a deal with that one gambler and was able to kill & eat both he and his wife as a result. So it wouldn't surprise me if Evelynn's contracts functioned in a similar matter. IE - kill your buyer but get a little leeway with their loved ones for that extra suffering.

FasmodeySep 24, 20171 votes

Yes makes sense.

Still, at least one of them was seduced.