@Riot are Xayah/Rakan's Back Feathers Actually Part of Their Body or Part of their Cloak?

Çhåryzård··8 votes·14,727 views

Because I'm having a really hard time telling and I just wanna know so I can be at peace.

Like, are they actually a drape of feathers coming out of their back? Or is it like a cape of feathers as in clothing?

Are they wearing the feathers or are the feathers actually part of them.

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Çhåryzård3 votes

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Yes.

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Ralanr4 votes

THAT HAT TILTS THE HELL OUT OF ME.

Spareatick2 votes

I believe they are part of them. In rakan's story he thinks about changing the color of them, but decides not to because it would take some magic. some vastaya are able to change their own appearance but I haven't read anything that makes me think they could change their clothing magically as well. Therefore I think it's more likely the feathers are apart of them.

RiotWAAARGHbobo15 votes

Yep. The Vastaya are not like us or yordles. We have a true shape. Yordles have a stable shape but it is hidden behind a glamour (aka an illusion).

Vastaya must have a physical form (unlike a true spirit) but they can change this form pretty severely-- provided they have access to enough magic, are well rested, and have some free time (the complexity and familarity of the form can make transitions much, much faster though).
Most have "prefered" shapes relating to the cultural norms of their tribe, subconcious personal expression, and to the collection of spirit aspects their tribe are the closest to..
When traveling in human lands true vastaya often try (conciously or subconciously) to look more human-- or are inspired by human fashions.
Rakan has a cloak, because he likes cloaks and he's traveling in human lands. He could make it into wings or a shiny tuxedo if he liked-- but it would wear him out until he got used to the shape. It's likely that Rakan would NOT be able to make his appearence something that wasn't colorful and loud-- because his personality forces itself upon his shape-- and a drab exterior would be painful for him.

People with vastayan heritage retain some of this power but have much more limited control. They might be able to transform quickly-- but only to one or two shapes (usually related to their spirit animal). Or they might be able to "partually" transform to many shapes or harness natural magic...but they aren't really in control or can't totally transform.

Azteryz2 votes

interesting what about rengar's invisibility cloak? is that a form of changing his appearance to blend with the environment or is it something specific only to his tribe of hunters?

RiotWAAARGHbobo3 votes

Vastayans are tied to natural magic-- not just spirit animals. The spirit of places, plants, stones and ideas.

Chromatic Eagle1 votes

So far we have Divine, natural/arcane, and shadow. How many different magic types are there?

what you deserve1 votes

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Vastayans are tied to natural magic-- not just spirit animals. The spirit of places, plants, stones and ideas.

So are there rock vastaya and tree vastaya? malphite/maokai/ivern?

Hyrum Graff1 votes

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Vastayans are tied to natural magic-- not just spirit animals. The spirit of places, plants, stones and ideas.

THROW ANOTHER ROCK

Chromatic Eagle1 votes

Yordles have a stable shape but it is hidden behind a glamour (aka an illusion).

Why do I get LeBlanc vibes from this statement?

People with vastayan heritage retain some of this power but have much more limited control. They might be able to transform quickly-- but only to one or two shapes (usually related to their spirit animal). Or they might be able to "partually" transform to many shapes or harness natural magic...but they aren't really in control or can't totally transform.

So Swain, Nidalee, and Udyr?

ULTRAF0RCE1 votes

Nidalee if Xayah and Rakan's VO's are to be trusted is not related to the Vastayans in any way but Swain and Udyr's powers are related to Vastayan blood.

Chromatic Eagle1 votes

The way her powers work are similar to how one group of Vastaya are described in that journal.

ULTRAF0RCE1 votes

perhaps from a human perspective but given there's no quote about her transformation and the generic vastaya quotes don't activate on her I would assume that wherever she grew up, the location had magic that gave her the power to transform was not vastayan in nature.

Azteryz1 votes

swain yea he is

for udyr im pretty sure he is just being teased since he follows the spirits of animals and he himself is just a human who is a spirit monk

Variks the Loyal1 votes

This makes it sound a lot like Nidalee is of Vastayan heritage. Nidalee

Sozan51 votes

Hm, so which race is more magicial, Yordles or Vastaya?

Stars Shaper1 votes

I have a small confusion too.

Rakan attitude seems closer to a Peacock while the pluamge seems closer to a Phoenix, which one of the 2 is closer (I'd say Peacock even if Rakan has healing powers).

Raxistaicho2 votes

So is Ahri naturally attuned to a near-human appearance? Would it be difficult for her to add more animalistic parts to her visible body?

Nylisa1 votes

{quoted}

Yep. The Vastaya are not like us or yordles. We have a true shape. Yordles have a stable shape but it is hidden behind a glamour (aka an illusion).

Vastaya must have a physical form (unlike a true spirit) but they can change this form pretty severely-- provided they have access to enough magic, are well rested, and have some free time (the complexity and familarity of the form can make transitions much, much faster though).
Most have "prefered" shapes relating to the cultural norms of their tribe, subconcious personal expression, and to the collection of spirit aspects their tribe are the closest to..
When traveling in human lands true vastaya often try (conciously or subconciously) to look more human-- or are inspired by human fashions.
Rakan has a cloak, because he likes cloaks and he's traveling in human lands. He could make it into wings or a shiny tuxedo if he liked-- but it would wear him out until he got used to the shape. It's likely that Rakan would NOT be able to make his appearence something that wasn't colorful and loud-- because his personality forces itself upon his shape-- and a drab exterior would be painful for him.

People with vastayan heritage retain some of this power but have much more limited control. They might be able to transform quickly-- but only to one or two shapes (usually related to their spirit animal). Or they might be able to "partually" transform to many shapes or harness natural magic...but they aren't really in control or can't totally transform.

so let me get this correct , are you saying that these creatures can look how they want as well?

doesnt that make them shallow creatures who fool other people with illusion of magic? making others think they are beautiful without knowing what they are on the inside?i mean rakan is portrayed as "charming"and good looking over and over in his description and his titles his lore and everything.that basically can be changed at will? doesn't that make one's charm and beauty meaningless?

maybe thats the point right? to show how people easily fall for how things look on the surface even knowing its just a pretty gown!

what does this say about ahri? is she from vastaya? if she is and her personality would force itself on her like rakan then why she looks like a young innocent woman but on the inside she just fool and seduce men to suck their soul out?

GreenLore1 votes

Soo does that mean that the cloaks are actually growing out of their backs? If he made it into a tuxedo would that Tuxedo be a seperate piece of clothing or still somehow connected to his actual body?

And if the cloak/tuxedo isn't actually physically connected to Rakans body could he take them off and let someone else wear it?

Çhåryzård2 votes

Where @Rito at apparently I'm not the only one who is confuzzled

Placentas1 votes

I've been really curious about this too. Or like...are the capes made of their own feathers? Or...what? It's confusing.

A Superb Villain1 votes

Think Rito from Wind Waker; are they sleeves or are they wings? Surprise! It's both, because magic!

Çhåryzård1 votes

Aight so what I got from this was that the feathers are part of their clothing but also technically part of them because they have the power to change their overall shape

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