You know, I have to admit, I really am jealous of Sharjo...

Electro522·5/13/2017, 9:20:20 AM·2 votes·908 views

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjDhcRSoj8w

I just got to watch this awesome video from Necrit, and afterwards, I simply couldn't help but say to myself "Sharjo could answer this."

But, alas, here are the rest of us simply left wondering. If you do read this, Sharjo, are you allowed to answer what those symbols are that Necrit showed near the end of the video? No? (damnit) Can you at least answer if they have any significance?

Still no?(sigh) Fine.....I'll see myself out.

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Sharjo5/13/2017, 10:14:32 AM11 votes

A few things that come to mind:

  • Necrit mentions celestial dragons, but there's only one such being in existence. Aurelion Sol certainly wasn't alone in the early universe, but those beings weren't like him in form or power.

  • As far as any lore has stated Aurelion Sol's visit to meet Targon was his first trip to Runeterra period. He hadn't seen humans before that and potentially humans might not have even existed back then, though of course that depends on whether Targon was a nation of humans, which I personally doubt heavily.

  • Necrit posits that Aurelion's enslavement was specifically so that Targon could use him to close Void rifts, but Targon has used him for much more than that, including forcing him to fight some of those celestial beings he shared the early cosmos with.

  • Necrit then goes on to describe how it might've been gods who chose people to become Aspects, but he seemingly confuses the fact that the Essence of War that he describes IS Pantheon. The Aspects have avatars on multiple worlds and are beings that are not all that comprehensible to simple mortals. This traces back to Necrit assuming that the beings who enslaves Aurelion were humans originally, which has no evidence backing it up as far as I recall.

  • Necrit then goes on to say that the only reason Targon would do this would be to fight the Void, but that's just assuming since Targon's mindset could've been completely malicious; they might've wanted him to serve as a weapon so they could control as much of the cosmos as possible.

  • He then ponders about how the Aspects spread the seed of life to other worlds, creating humans to fight for them, but firstly there's no evidence to say Targon could ever do that, and two humans are pretty much exclusive to Runeterra afaik. The only true aliens we have in the roster atm are Aurelion Sol, Soraka and Bard (and all of the voidborn), so not a big sample size but all of them are pretty distinct from humans.

  • Necrit posits that Targon had to have had help and prior knowledge of beings like Aurelion Sol to enslave him with Star Crowns, but given they were already a space faring civilisation there's potential for them having done this all on their own. Mortals have done stranger things in the past.

  • Necrit assumes that Runeterra's magic was put there by someone, but there's no player facing lore that speaks to how magic came to exist in the universe to begin with, so there's nothing to suggest that some god put it there.

  • Necrit discusses the approach between the Aspects of the Sun and Moon in regards to informing Leona and Diana, but makes the leap that Leona was given only half of the story, or even a completely factual story by her Aspect, where as the Moon Aspect purposefully didn't tell Diana the full story. This could be put down to the Aspects having different approaches to interacting with their chosen vessels, which we know is the case between Pantheon and the Protector anyway, so the Moon Aspect might just be trying to show Diana in a different manner to leona; with memories and freedom to choose her path rather than a great big stonking vision.

  • Necrit mentions Nami's staff has a similar insignia to the Void's, but chances are the Void's insignia exists because of some mortal culture making one, and that the resemblance is just a coincidence. Nothing about Nami's lore directly states that her people know anything about the Void in any regard.

  • Necrit's analysis of Bard stuff leaves a lot to be desired, since there's no way humans are gonna have access to Abyssal Pearls, the Bard's Mountains are super far away from Mount Targon, Bard not being connected to Targon because "he doesn't wear exclusively gold and silver" is pretty weak, the Noxian commander calling it a "stone" tells us nothing other than what people assume about it, the purple magic being void related is also very weak since the object itself literally glows with blue energy and starlight.

  • He mentions Shurima "forcefully" stealing the power of Ascension, yet people easily died via Ascension from being unworthy, and Azir ascended completely by something else giving it to him. It would be more logical to assume that, if there's a Targonian connection, that Targon was giving the Shurimans power via the Sun Disc to those who the Shurimans brought before them as being worthy of such a boon.

  • Skarner and Rek'Sai don't look all that similar really.

  • While Mount Targon is technically north of Icathia, it's no where near a direct north. Far more east west than north. Also his lore's old.

Necrit's theory's interesting, but there's a lot of difficulties I have with it.

GenoXx5/15/2017, 2:33:53 AM1 votes

It's called favoritism. That's the boards in a nut shell these days. Only certain users here have the right to have they opinion acknowledged apparently.