In-universe; Who is the most beautiful champion?

Dominick Destine··2 votes·1,623 views

I know what the out-of-universe answer (Ahri/Sona) but in-universe?

Edit: I'm going to say Pre-Lamia'd Cassiopeia because the lore states that Cass was a very beautiful seductress before she was turned into a monstrosity (Though most men would still bang, aehuaheuhuehuehue, we have such strange/low standards)

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420Templar6 votes

Urgot

Lapis6 votes

Draven

Dominick Destine1 votes

I lol'd at that answer, +1 man.

TurquoiseYoshi6 votes

MonkeyKing teal box is my favorite.

Shonjl3 votes

It varies by each person. But as far as what we know, probably Ahri.

It just makes sense if she is the most attractive due to her lore. She needed souls/life force, and a lot of it. Sure she had ways to charm men and seduce them but I am sure her looks alone could do the job.

And from a personal standpoint it makes sense for her to be sexy. She was a seductress. What doesn't make sense is Katarina being a well experienced Assassin that basically wears a bikini top and some pants and still has a perfect figure when she would really have a lot of scars if not be dead otherwise. Or Leona having the perfect hourglass body even though she is in a heavy suit of plate armor.

Ebonmaw Dragon2 votes

Tristana ... For the Yordle standarts.

I mean, there are 2 champs "in love" with her... that is more than any other champ.

AlwaysByMySide2 votes

There is no in-universe most beautiful champion. Ahri is the best at attracting others (mostly directed to the guy above), but that isn't the question you asked, and she does it not just because she's hot, but also through telepathy.

Anyway, I voted for Taric. Look at those wavy locks, and just listen to that positively loamy voice. Hngggg.

Dominick Destine1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Memeglaive Garen,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=FNxNfwks,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2016-01-22T11:53:42.010+0000)

There is no in-universe most beautiful champion.

But (Pre-Lamia) Cassiopeia and MF both have specific references to her being extremely good at seducing men.

Also getting noted for their high beauty.

AlwaysByMySide3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=FNxNfwks,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2016-01-22T19:25:58.376+0000)

But (Pre-Lamia) Cassiopeia and MF both have specific references to her being extremely good at seducing men.

Also getting noted for their high beauty.

Yeah, and Caitlyn explicitly grew into a "ravishing beauty", and Illaoi is apparently an in-universe heartbreaker.

So what, though? All champions whose attractiveness is explicitly mentioned have it mentioned in a vacuum, never in relation to another champion, or to anyone in general. It isn't sufficient evidence to make a claim on who is regarded as the in-universe most beautiful champion.

Dominick Destine2 votes

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Yeah, and Caitlyn explicitly grew into a "ravishing beauty"

Oh yeah? I'd still put Cassiopeia/MF above Caitlyn.

Illaoi is apparently an in-universe heartbreaker.

Illaoi was created after the universe was destroyed. If her lore says she's a "heartbreaker" in the sense that she was considered beautiful and pursued by men, that only furthers the argument that they are not even trying anymore....

AlwaysByMySide3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=FNxNfwks,comment-id=0009000000000000,timestamp=2016-01-22T20:26:48.278+0000)

Oh yeah? I'd still put Cassiopeia/MF above Caitlyn.

That's nice, even though you have no objective reason to do so.

Illaoi was created after the universe was destroyed. If her lore says she's a "heartbreaker" in the sense that she was considered beautiful and pursued by men, that only furthers the argument that they are not even trying anymore....

Why? Because you find her unattractive? Don't be so pathetic.

Dominick Destine2 votes

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That's nice, even though you have no objective reason to do so.

Except the lore specifically states that Pre-Lamia Cassiopeia was very successful in seducing men. MF was so successful that only one man ever resisted her (Orange).

Who has Caitlyn seduced? what are her feats? oh yeah, none.

Why? Because you find her unattractive? Don't be so pathetic.

Hey, if you like that kind of thing that's fine man, but it is neither pathetic nor wrong to not be attracted to manly looking women/unattractive women. You are projecting pretty hard.

AlwaysByMySide3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=FNxNfwks,comment-id=000900000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-01-22T20:49:05.126+0000)

Except the lore specifically states that Pre-Lamia Cassiopeia was very successful in seducing men. MF was so successful that only one man ever resisted her (Orange).

Who has Caitlyn seduced? what are her feats? oh yeah, none.

Only the question you asked is who is the most beautiful, not who is better at seducing the opposite sex.

While beauty aids in doing so, it isn't the only factor. If you want to ask who is the best at seducing the opposite sex, I'd advise you make a different thread, or change the title of this one. You don't seem to know what it is you actually asked.

Hey, if you like that kind of thing that's fine man, but it is neither pathetic nor wrong to not be attracted to manly looking women/unattractive women. You are projecting pretty hard.

I'm projecting? So I'm saying that you're pathetic for thinking that Illaoi being considered attractive in-universe is proof that Riot isn't trying anymore is pathetic because I'm the one who actually thinks that?

Don't use words if you don't know what they actually mean, my son. I'm saying you're a pitiful neckbeard not because you don't find Illaoi attractive, I'm saying you're a pitiful neckbeard because it bothers you that people in-universe would be attracted to her on a personal level. Grow up.

Dominick Destine2 votes

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Only the question you asked is who is the most beautiful, not who is better at seducing the opposite sex.

The only way your argument would work is if you also argue that attractive women are not significantly better at seducing the opposite sex.

That's like arguing "Who is the strongest person" but dismissed "The person that can accomplish the following feats (Lifting/pushing/pulling/etc.)". Your argument is flimsy at best.

I'm projecting?

Yes. It's not complicated, you are insecure so you attack others to try and project your weakness.

projection projection

All you are doing is projecting your own insecurity, ironically showing how immature you yourself are. Your nonsense is noted and dismissed.

But let me clarify again; Men do not find manly/ugly women attractive. If YOU like that kind of woman, that's awesome, go for it, but men generally do not. That's why you see a lot more men attracted to a Scarlett Johanson/Charlise Theron type than a Queen Latifah/Holly Holm type.

It's not complicated.

AlwaysByMySide3 votes

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The only way your argument would work is if you also argue that attractive women are not significantly better at seducing the opposite sex.

It certainly makes it easier, but they don't necessarily correlate.

You're a little slow so I'll make this easier for you. If you have two women who are considered to be about equal in beauty, which one is better at seducing men?

The one who puts more effort into doing so.

They are related, but don't correlate 100%.

That's like arguing "Who is the strongest person" but dismissed "The person that can accomplish the following feats (Lifting/pushing/pulling/etc.)". Your argument is flimsy at best.

No, lifting and pulling directly correlate with physical strength. A question of "who is stronger" and "who can lift or move the heaviest objects" aren't just related, it's the same question. Strength is defined as one's capacity to exert physical force and lift and move objects.

Beautiful is not synonymous with seductive.

Yes. It's not complicated, you are insecure so you attack others to try and project your weakness.

Your assumptions about my personality aside, that's still not psychological projection. Educate yourself.

All you are doing is projecting your own insecurity, ironically showing how immature you yourself are. Your nonsense is noted and dismissed.

Ah, the tried and true "no u" argument. Are you mad or something?

No, I'm calling you a pathetic neckbeard because you seem to think writing quality negatively correlates with large and muscular women being considered attractive.

But let me clarify again; Men do not find manly/ugly women attractive. If YOU like that kind of woman, that's awesome, go for it, but men generally do not. That's why you see a lot more men attracted to a Scarlett Johanson/Charlise Theron type than a Queen Latifah/Holly Holm type.

It's not complicated.

Different cultures have had and do have different ideas of what makes a woman attractive. That you are trying to objectively evaluate one of the most subjective qualities in existence (only behind how food tastes) only shows off how childish and stupid you are.

You're trying to distance yourself from your original statement to cover your tracks. Why is Illaoi being considered attractive in-universe an example of how the writers aren't trying?

Go on, I'm sure if you try hard enough you can come up with an answer. Not a good one, but an answer nonetheless.

Dominick Destine1 votes

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It certainly makes it easier, but they don't necessarily correlate.

Refer to my prior refutation.

No, lifting and pulling directly correlate with physical strength.

Exactly.

No, I'm calling you a pathetic neckbeard because you seem to think writing

Sounds like the desperation has increased. Your projection goes higher and higher. Let me put it in simple terms; The more you lash out with your emotional nonsense, the more you reveal about yourself.

Different cultures have had and do have different ideas of what makes a woman attractive.

Non sequitur. We are not talking about the abstract, we are talking about reality; In reality, men do not find unattractive/manly/ugly women attractive which is why the Charlize Theron/Scarlet Johanson type woman is far more desired than the Queen Latifah/Holly Holm type. Refute that point and prove me wrong if you are so confident that manly/ugly women are considered attractive.

It's really not that complicated. It's called statistical significance; Reality.

Why is Illaoi being considered attractive in-universe an example of how the writers aren't trying?

I have already explained multiple times. Refer to this and the prior comments. The refutation to your argument is there, you just have to take off the blinders.

You're trying to distance yourself from your original statement to cover your tracks.

Actually no, I have explained multiple times, refuting your positions over and over. How is that distancing? answer: It is not.

You are just flailing desperately to attempt to save face because you made a very poor argument earlier and got called on it. That's enough though, the points have been made clear and there is no need to continue this back and forth. That is all.

AlwaysByMySide3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=FNxNfwks,comment-id=0009000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-01-22T22:18:15.975+0000)

Refer to my prior refutation.

It was wrong, why would I refer to it?

Exactly.

Sounds like the desperation has increased. Your projection goes higher and higher. Let me put it in simple terms; The more you lash out with your emotional nonsense, the more you reveal about yourself.

Yawn. Still don't know what projection means?

Non sequitur. We are not talking about the abstract, we are talking about reality; In reality, men do not find unattractive/manly/ugly women attractive which is why the Charlize Theron/Scarlet Johanson type woman is far more desired than the Queen Latifah/Holly Holm type. Refute that point and prove me wrong if you are so confident that manly/ugly women are considered attractive.

First of all, using unattractive to describe the type of woman men don't find attractive is redundant.

Second of all, you're talking about one specific culture in "reality". In "reality", a body type like Queen Latifah's (if not fatter) is preferred in places like Jamaica, Samoa, Mauritania, and Tahiti.

Thirdly, Illaoi is an individual, not "women". Illaoi the individual is considered attractive in-universe. Whether it's because or despite her figure is unknown.

Try harder. Or stop trying. That last one might be best.

I have already explained multiple times. Refer to this and the prior comments. The refutation to your argument is there, you just have to take off the blinders.

I accept your concession. You haven't provided any reasoning for why it's bad writing.

Actually no, I have explained multiple times, refuting your positions over and over. How is that distancing? answer: It is not.

No, you haven't actually addressed how it is bad writing. You haven't brought up the writing at all, in fact. Don't be such a coward.

You are just flailing desperately to attempt to save face because you made a very poor argument earlier and got called on it.

"No u! You're the one doing what you're claiming I'm doing!"

Read: You can't address what I'm saying so you're going to project it (hey look I used this word correctly) on me.

This is starting to get boring. You've taken to repeating what you've already said, you should just gracefully admit that you said something stupid.

Dominick Destine1 votes

The difference between you and I; I am presenting/refuting arguments.

Your only 'argument' is rampant projection by trying to attack me with insults.

Ex:

Coward Stupid Neckbeard Pathetic Pitiful Childish

You project nonstop because you are insecure and have no argument to present. You are a one note fiddle. Your harassment is noted but that's enough of that.

Lord Boltrix2 votes

RekSai I'm not joking.

Jorencice1 votes

I'd say LeBlanc the deciver.

I mean she literally a illusionist master who could change her appearance to whatever the person likes the most.

Dominick Destine1 votes

But we don't even know if Leblanc is female...

LuciSpente1 votes

Leona or Riven

sealust1 votes

Hmm, I'd have to agree with your pre-transformation Cass. I don't think that her being 'supermodel pretty' and a massively successful socialite would be a stretch when she was human.

Sona would also be up there, just because she's famous and would have all this cosmetic shit at her disposal, regardless of her natural look.

Since you put him up there; I have a feeling Jihn is horribly disfigured though scars or something, considering he looks half mechanical and covers himself almost completely.

I'm going to go with Taric though. I guess it's the vibe? The man is well-groomed, put together, and probably gentlemanly as fuck. I have a feeling he is a bit isolated from the larger societies (we'll find out with his rework, hopefully) so he wouldn't be a total heartthrob with girls chasing him but yeah. Taric.

Khâmul1 votes

urf

La Barbotte1 votes

Rammus OK

TzQGRUST391 votes

In-universe it would have to be Ahri or Miss Fortune. Miss Fortune rose to be the most powerful person in bilgewater by seducing and tricking people, and Ahri tricks and kills men with her beauty. If I have to choose one it would have to be Ahri because it seems like she is the more standard definition of beauty in which she is just pleasing to look at, male or female. While, Miss Fortune is nothing but sex appeal and all around being lascivious (Even though Ahri is a lot of that too).

Edit: Cassiopeia would be a good third place. I think her displays of power were mostly based off her intellect with her beauty being a buffer.

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